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Manhattan Status Symbols: Washers and Dryers [“It is the ultimate convenience,”......]
New York Times ^

Posted on 01/01/2011 12:26:32 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Manhattan Status Symbols: Washers and Dryers By C. J. HUGHES

THE final noisemaker has squealed and the last dinner guest has straggled home, so the holiday extravaganza that is Christmas and New Year’s — spread out over two long weekends and punctuated by a blizzard — is over.

Now it’s time for the cleanup, and that can mean dealing with more than the usual number of napkins splashed with red wine. For most people in the city, getting the laundry done will mean lugging it to a wash-and-fold service or taking it to the machines in the basement with a stack of quarters in hand.

But a growing number of New Yorkers can give the holiday linens a hot bath at home in their own washers and dryers. This staple of the suburbs remains uncommon in the city — apartments that have washers and dryers make up only about 20 percent of the sales and rental listings in Manhattan, according to StreetEasy, the real estate Web site. But demand is increasing, Condominium developers are making these appliances part of the standard package, and older buildings — even prewars — are relaxing longtime bans to keep residents happy and to avoid scaring off buyers.

But newer buildings have the edge. A search of StreetEasy’s listings in late December showed that 593 Manhattan co-ops for sale offered washers, versus 1,849 condos.

A washer can be worth far more than its weight in lost socks.

Jonathan J. Miller, the president of Miller Samuel, the appraisal company, said that “while there is no known empirical data to reliably measure this amenity,” a washing machine can add as much as 5 percent to an apartment’s price tag.

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To: Tijeras_Slim
... to the laundry room and find my clothes folded in the basket on occasion

I always folded other people's wash so I could use the dryer as soon as it shut off, instead of waiting for them to come back.

41 posted on 01/01/2011 1:29:40 PM PST by Tax-chick (The gifts we have, we are given to share.)
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To: Sub-Driver

btt


42 posted on 01/01/2011 1:31:45 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Tax-chick

I think the little old ladies liked me because I carried their groceries, or they appreciated my skivvies back when I had a 30” waist. :-D


43 posted on 01/01/2011 1:32:36 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Melas
We lived in Dallas and San Antonio when first married--a mere 56 yrs. ago. SA was like a big overgrown cowtown; now it has millions of people and freeways stacked 6 high. Dallas was pretty full of traffic even then, but you could tell a separation between Dallas/Ft. Worth. Now it just spreads out into one big sprawl. Waxahachie was 30 miles away from Dallas when I was at boarding school there-51-52. Now it is a suburb.

I liked both Dallas and SA at the time. Now, I would hate the traffic.

vaudine

44 posted on 01/01/2011 1:33:50 PM PST by vaudine
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To: Alice in Wonderland
Actually, if there is blame, place it on the architects who designed many of these buildings long before washing machines were a common household appliance. My building was built in 1929.

There's more to it than that.

Think of having an upstairs neighbor with a washing machine.

Think of the noise.

Then think what happens when his washing machine floods your apartment when his hose bursts after he forgot to turn the water off before he went off on vacation.

Or think of the lawsuits and dirty looks you'll get from your downstairs neighbors if you do that to them.

Then there's laundromats (aka, washaterias). Lovely places for spreading bedbugs these days.

45 posted on 01/01/2011 1:34:00 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Sub-Driver

Apartment buildings converted and sold as ‘condos’ do not have individual water meters - so the Home Owners Association fees have to include hot & cold water costs. They also raise revenue by keeping coin operated laundry rooms.

Putting one of these under the kitchen counter - near the sink works really well;)

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Haier-Portable-Washing-Machine/5043376?ci_sku=13346456&ci_src=14110944&sourceid=1500000000000003260370


46 posted on 01/01/2011 1:35:54 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I’m sure they liked your helpfulness and your sveltifulness, too.

I would also put other people’s clothes in a dryer, and pay the money and run the dryer, if I needed to use the washer. Efficiency is more important than 75 cents!


47 posted on 01/01/2011 1:37:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (The gifts we have, we are given to share.)
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To: Kieri
The rabbits chase the deer

That's a new one on me. Are these Jimmy Carter-style Super-Rabbits?

Even our 70s trailer park home has a serviceable laundry room (and a bird feeder outside the kitchen window).

48 posted on 01/01/2011 1:39:56 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: sodpoodle

I have one of those in my bug-out van — only tested it with water, no soap: it did seem to work — but it is there to use if needed. BTW only cost $100 at BigLots at the time.


49 posted on 01/01/2011 1:42:35 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'll tell you something: in my last apartment and in most of the apartments we looked at, we would've been allowed to have a dryer, but not a washer. I think one had a washer (it belonged to the current tenant) and it was tiny, but it fit the space.

And it isn't a matter of space, really. It's a matter of water damage and flooding on the floors below. My basement has only flooded once, and it was from a loose hose. Even the melting snow didn't make that much of a mess in the basement.

50 posted on 01/01/2011 1:45:05 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Sub-Driver
It's amazing how spoiled we have become with something as simple as washing machines. About a year ago, our washer broke down and my wife and I had to go to one of those laundromats in town. It was like going back in time to 1966, those yellow vinyl chairs, the vending machines with those little boxes of detergent and bleach, linoleum floors and Paul Anka/4 Seasons tunes piped in over the speakers. Most of the other patrons had English as their second language - or maybe their third language. Everybody there looked depressed. Went through a lot of quarters that afternoon.

Business idea: Open a "cool" laundromat with a bar, some pool tables and maybe a live band.

51 posted on 01/01/2011 1:45:26 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Jacquerie
Garbage disposals were illegal for many years, yes. I believe they were made legal about 10 years ago, but as no buildings had plumbing configured to allow their installation, very few buildings have them.

Older buildings configured as co-ops or condos amended their internal rules to ban them, as the assumption was the piping couldn't handle the increased load.

52 posted on 01/01/2011 1:46:27 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: RingerSIX

We live in the boonies in the south, and we’ve had a stacked washer/dryer unit for almost 25 yrs., and bigger units before that. I can remember hauling our laundry to the laundry mat as well; but glad I haven’t had to do much of that in a long time. If that fails, we have a river with big rocks to beat the clothes on down below our house.


53 posted on 01/01/2011 1:47:22 PM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: Twinkie
If that fails, we have a river with big rocks to beat the clothes on down below our house.

My wife probably remembers how to do that -- or at least seeing it done where she grew up in India -- but that was WARM water. Here, our river (Columbia) is icy at the edges and, of course, the state Department of Ecology would call a SWAT Team if they saw you making suds in it.

54 posted on 01/01/2011 1:51:41 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Age of Reason
Think of the noise.

I never received a complaint from any of my neighbors about my washing machine noise.

Then think what happens when his washing machine floods your apartment when his hose bursts after he forgot to turn the water off before he went off on vacation.

Huh?

I lived at the beach. We locals never went 'off on vacation', we lived in the perfect vacation spot, year round.

I never had to turn my water on and off to use the washer. It was hooked up under the kitchen sink. And I never had a hose burst ... why would it? Do you turn the water off to your washer when you go on vacation? Is it something I should do now that I live in Florida and do go on vacations?

55 posted on 01/01/2011 1:56:44 PM PST by Alice in Wonderland
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To: libertarian27

I’m assuming this pic in #38 was taken with one foot on the bed and the other on the toilet.


56 posted on 01/01/2011 2:00:02 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: Sub-Driver

How completely wasteful and profligate. People don’t NEED their own washing machines and dryers. They can use collective laundromat resources rather than pollute the earth with lumbering steel appliances that sit idle most of the time.

(Yes, I’m channeling the city-dwellers’ arguments against the automobile and for public transportation. Fitting, eh?)


57 posted on 01/01/2011 2:00:36 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast (Obama: running for re-election in '12 or running for Mahdi now? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi])
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To: Sub-Driver
Those east coast elitists! Aren't they so quaint? They must fervently long for the day when toilet paper becomes a luxury. Then, they'll have achieved communism!

Has anyone informed them that nearly every slack jawed, yocal household in flyover country owns a washer and dryer?

58 posted on 01/01/2011 2:01:46 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SeeSharp
This reads like an article in the Moscow Times.

It's "The New York Times." There's not much difference.

59 posted on 01/01/2011 2:02:56 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: libertarian27

Heh! In parts of Manhattan that would be palatial


60 posted on 01/01/2011 2:05:14 PM PST by rex regnum insanit (falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus)
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