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Right-to-carry proposal stirs debate in Frederick County(MD)
wtop.com ^ | 2 January, 2011 | Meg Tully

Posted on 01/03/2011 4:11:26 AM PST by marktwain

When former Frederick County Sheriff Robert C. Snyder applied for a right-to-carry gun permit several years ago, he had every reason to believe it would be granted.

The former lawman had served for 24 years on the Maryland State Police and was sheriff for eight years.

"I wanted a revolver to carry in my car," Snyder recalled. "I wanted one for protection if we were traveling."

Imagine his surprise at learning that the Maryland State Police denied his permit application. Snyder said he was told a permit would be granted only if his life were threatened and he had documentation to prove it.

Ultimately he was awarded the permit thanks to an effort by Frederick County Delegation Chairman Paul Stull, but Snyder said the experience made him wonder if he -- a former sheriff -- had so much trouble, how would the average person fare?

That incident is one reason Snyder supports a legislative proposal that would give the current Frederick County sheriff the responsibility to issue right-to-carry permits, rather than Maryland State Police.

"(Sheriff Chuck Jenkins) knows the people here and he knows the bad elements that would be trying to get a gun moreso than someone in Baltimore or Pikesville," Snyder said. "I think it's good and I support him totally."

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There is opposition because this still gives arbitrary power to the sheriff to deny a Constitutional right.
1 posted on 01/03/2011 4:11:33 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

It just transfers MD’s corrupt and abusive discretionary permitting system to the local level. There’s no real reform unless its “shall issue” - which means law enforcement MUST grant you a permit unless they can show why you shouldn’t have one.


2 posted on 01/03/2011 4:17:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Precisely.


3 posted on 01/03/2011 4:21:48 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: marktwain

There are over a million applicants for deer hunting permits per year alone.

Why do you think the left wants to control guns?

A well armed militia is a the stalwart to defeating the socialist take over of America.


4 posted on 01/03/2011 4:23:26 AM PST by Lessthantolerant (The State is diametrically opposed to our search for a better living.)
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To: Lessthantolerant
*** There are over a million applicants for deer hunting permits per year alone. ***

Now you do it.

That a*hole who runs the Brady Bunch, Paul 'something' (Henke?), will see that and revise it to:

Right Wing Extremists admit that there are over a million applicants for deer hunting permits per year alone potential SNIPERS in the USA.
He's already calling all (scoped) 'Hunting' Rifles , 'Sniper' Rifles on their website (saw it about a year ago) and wants them banned (HUGH surprise - not).
5 posted on 01/03/2011 4:39:32 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: goldstategop

“It just transfers MD’s corrupt and abusive discretionary system...”

Why in the world should Maryland State Police have the authority for this? In this specific case, how many bad guys did he lock up during all those years of law enforcement? Cops may forget the people they arrest, but the people always remember the cop who arrested them. Sounds to me like MSP simply has a NO stamp to any paperwork that crosses their desks. IMHO


6 posted on 01/03/2011 4:48:20 AM PST by momtothree
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To: marktwain

Ultimately he was awarded the permit thanks to an effort by Frederick County Delegation Chairman Paul Stull, but Snyder said the experience made him wonder if he — a former sheriff — had so much trouble, how would the average person fare?


I can tell him how we fare.

We don’t friggin fare at all.

Imagine his surprise when his fraternity of Badge Carriers refused him a permit.

Most Marylanders don’t have to worry about being surprised, we know when we apply that we are wasting our time.


7 posted on 01/03/2011 4:51:28 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Apple Blossom

Ping.


8 posted on 01/03/2011 4:53:44 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: momtothree
Or worse, the sheriff in some way made some enemies in the State Police.

We know how that goes down.

9 posted on 01/03/2011 5:04:07 AM PST by muawiyah (Hey,)
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To: marktwain

Fascists believe in gun control.

and conversely:

People who believe in gun control are fascists.


10 posted on 01/03/2011 5:16:08 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: marktwain

Wow it must suck to be him. What a shock it must have been when a member of the badge toting aristocracy joins the serfs and is treated like a nobody. Welcome to the real world buddy, now shut up and pay your taxes! I’m so glad I live in the backward, racist, barefooted, illiterate, hicksville state of Mississippi where your car is considered an extension of your home and you can carry anything you want in your car!


11 posted on 01/03/2011 5:25:17 AM PST by 762X51
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To: 762X51

It is time for revolution in MD.


12 posted on 01/03/2011 5:29:32 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: marktwain

Makes me wonder who he made mad at the state police when he left.


13 posted on 01/03/2011 5:41:35 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: 762X51

“Wow it must suck to be him. What a shock it must have been when a member of the badge toting aristocracy joins the serfs and is treated like a nobody. Welcome to the real world buddy, now shut up and pay your taxes! I’m so glad I live in the backward, racist, barefooted, illiterate, hicksville state of Mississippi where your car is considered an extension of your home and you can carry anything you want in your car!”

Ditto for Nevada! In spite of being home to one of the biggest slime balls in the gov. it has its good points.


14 posted on 01/03/2011 5:48:41 AM PST by mongo141
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To: Condor51

Yeah, I think it’s one Paul Helmke (sp) at the Brady Bunch.

Some U.N. bureaucrat has the same idea: scoped rifles in standard calibers are “medium range sniper weapons” and should be banned.

And we thought all the Bradys wanted to ban were handguns.

Well, Mrs. Brady, some of us RWE’s own more than one scoped rifle and maybe several handguns as well, howzabout them apples, hmmm?

Yet another reminder of the wisdom of Admiral Yamamoto who predicted that if America were invaded, “there would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.” He said that seventy years ago, and today’s hunting rifles are far more advanced technologically than in 1941.

Now BATFE is targetting rifle sales in the Southwest.

“Gun control is a tide that is always coming in.”


15 posted on 01/03/2011 6:08:43 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: marktwain

Sue, sue and more suing. It is all we have down here.


16 posted on 01/03/2011 6:21:38 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: bmwcyle
"It is time for revolution in MD."

Not a moment too soon. I'm movng back in a year or so (God help me) to take care of aging family members. I'm bringing a whole busload of guns and ammo with me, too. The majority of them are proabably illegal in MD, but I don't much care.

17 posted on 01/03/2011 8:57:11 AM PST by jboot
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To: jboot

What I hear from the state just north, you will not be alone.


18 posted on 01/03/2011 9:09:25 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: marktwain; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

I still prefer it to MSP, which would apparently rather see us at the mercy of predators outside our homes, rather than having us defend ourselves.

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


19 posted on 01/03/2011 7:15:53 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (up)
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To: marktwain

“documentation to prove it.”

Just what documentation would that be?

A (possibly made-up) hand-scrawled threatening note? Notarized by the local pharmacist?


20 posted on 01/04/2011 11:09:59 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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