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Israeli Air Force Mulling Rent-a-Jet Scheme With Korean Aircraft
The Media Line ^ | January 03, 2011 | Arieh O’Sullivan

Posted on 01/04/2011 10:30:30 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

ISRAELI AIR FORCE MULLING RENT-A-JET SCHEME WITH KOREAN AIRCRAFT

Trainer would be first not made either locally or by the U.S. in 40 years

The next fighter jet trainer Israeli cadets may be flying may be made in South Korea. The Israel air force has issued an official request for information from Korea for its two-seater T-50 Golden Eagle fighter jet trainer.

The Israeli Air Force is also examining the M-346 built by the Italian firm Alenia Aermacchi. Unlike the T-50, the M-346 is a transonic aircraft. The jet chosen would replace the aging A-4, or Skyhawk, an aircraft developed in the 1950s and flown by Israeli pilots for over four decades.

The search for a new jet trainer would mark the first time in over 40 years that Israel, which receives nearly $3 billion in annual defense grants from the U.S., would purchase a jet not made locally or produced in America.

The plan is for the Israeli aerospace giant Israel Aerospace Industries and Elbit Systems Ltd., Israel’s largest privately owned defense contractor, to form a joint venture that would purchase the aircraft and then lease them to the air force. The joint venture would maintain them and charge an hourly rate. This model already exists with the turbo-prop trainer Snunit or GROB G-120-Al.

Defense sources said the request for information (RFI) for the new fighter jet trainer had been issued recently and that Israeli Air Force pilots had already examined and flown both aircraft. Industry sources said the RFI had been delayed pending a review by the Antitrust Authority’s of the joint venture.

The T-50 Golden Eagle was developed jointly by the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and the American Lockheed Martin aerospace company. Its main purpose is to bring pilots from basic flight training to high performance next-generation fighter jets like the F-35 and F-16I. It is also designed to carry weapons if necessary.

Seoul has reportedly offered the two-seater trainer to the United Arab Emirates but that bids apparently failed due to the jet’s high price. Each T-50 reportedly costs more than $20 million.

The T-50 would be equipped with Israeli fire-control radar made by Elta and an electronic warfare system supplied by Elisra, two Israeli defense contractors. Designed to carry a variety of weapons, including 20-mm internal gun, external missiles, 4,760 kilograms of bombs and rocket launchers, the T-50 could participate in “light attack missions.” It flies at Mach 1.5 maximum speed.

The Aermacchi’s M-346 is a twin-engine fighter trainer, more similar to the Boeing F-15Is.

By Arieh O’Sullivan on Monday, January 03, 2011


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; israel; kai; t50

The T-50's attack variant

1 posted on 01/04/2011 10:30:35 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Judging by all of the stickers on the side of that aircraft, they can’t decide where to put the C.G.


2 posted on 01/04/2011 10:50:59 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What do people expect? Obama held up guaranteed delivery of Jets already approved. This comes out the same day that they ask for Pollard’s release. Accident? I don’t think so.


3 posted on 01/04/2011 10:51:12 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
When I was a buyer I learned to purchase the best product at the best value, regardless of who's toes got stepped on.

Sometimes one pays more up front for less technical costs down range. Sometimes the opposite is the case, if volume/value vs. fix expense is more cost effective. Israel is a state at constant war, they know how to squeeze the value out of a shekel.

4 posted on 01/04/2011 11:00:43 AM PST by mmercier
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To: Yo-Yo

no kidding, especially the ones near the tail.


5 posted on 01/04/2011 11:28:32 AM PST by rahbert
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To: mmercier
Pay by the hour for an advanced flight trainer. Makes very good sense.

With the soon-to-come massive cuts to our defense budgets, expect to see the same here in the US.

By the hour for (fighter) jet trainers - almost a given.

By the hour for cargo (heavy) next? Most the simulators are already contracted out.

Could be an interesting next 10 years.

In the Chinese curse sense of the word interesting.

6 posted on 01/04/2011 1:56:34 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: mmercier
Pay by the hour for an advanced flight trainer. Makes very good sense.

With the soon-to-come massive cuts to our defense budgets, expect to see the same here in the US.

By the hour for (fighter) jet trainers - almost a given.

By the hour for cargo (heavy) next? Most the simulators are already contracted out.

Could be an interesting next 10 years.

In the Chinese curse sense of the word interesting.

7 posted on 01/04/2011 1:56:44 PM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Nachum

Nothing surprising here. The US is not much of a player in the training market. Notwithstanding the fact that both aircraft in this competition use American engines.


8 posted on 01/04/2011 5:42:55 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: ASOC

The UK already has a somewhat similar programme of public-private partnership for training its pilots.

http://www.ascentflighttraining.com/


9 posted on 01/04/2011 5:45:51 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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10 posted on 01/05/2011 5:36:08 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

so deska

Thanks for the link!


11 posted on 01/05/2011 7:48:57 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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