Posted on 01/05/2011 12:09:44 PM PST by FreeAtlanta
To my eye, and I think for many other people, the very pictures you posted show your assumption to be incorrect. Naturally these two men are not going to look identical but they have a very similar jaw line that many people have remarked upon, including right here on this website.
But my granddaughter looks more like me than either parent. So, resemblance to his grandparent means nothing much.
You just contradicted yourself. The fact that your granddaughter looks like you is evidence that she is related to you.
That's exactly what I was saying is the case with Obama and his grandfather Stanley Dunham.
If you had been following my discussion with "Fred Nerks" you would see that I am NOT claiming that Obama is really the son of his grandfather (as a number of people around here seem to believe). Mr. Nerks often brings up a number of weird theories such as Stanley Ann Dunham is not really Obama's mother and I think that the above mentioned resemblance is evidence against this idea.
BTW my son looked a lot like my father for a while. At other times people have said he looks like me.
“If you were born in Hawaii before it was a state, would you be eligible to run for President?”
Perhaps, if your parents were both US citizens. Per Vattel: “THE whole of the countries possessed by a nation and subject to its laws, forms, as we have already said, its territory, and is the common country of all the individuals of the nation.” Thus, a territory is part of the nation and citizens of the territory are citizens of the nation. However, both parents must be citizens for the child to be a natural born citizen.
Again, per Vattel: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” Because Obama was born of a foreign father, if he was born in Hawaii the US is merely his place of birth, not his country.
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During the 1960’s I personally witnessed several new Mommies coming in to ship their cars back to Hawaii (via Matson Lines http://www.Matson.com ) shortly after their giving birth elsewhere, inside or outside the Mainland United States.
These new Mommies were told by other Mommies present to just go to the Honolulu Officals and proclaim that thier newborns were born in Hawaii and a Birth Certificate showing so would be automatically produced.
It was THAT commonplace ..and well known about by many.. back then..!!!
This was during a 9-10 year window after Hawaiian Statehood when they could get away with it.
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