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Suspect in rampage called 'very disturbed' (has made death threats before)
Arizona Daily Sun ^ | January 9 2011 | Tim Steller

Posted on 01/09/2011 6:32:21 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

The man arrested for opening fire at a community meeting held by U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Saturday -- killing six people and injuring 13 others -- disrupted classes at Pima Community College, tried to manipulate his dreams and posted rambling messages on the Internet.

The suspected shooter is Jared Lee Loughner, a 22-year-old who lives on the northwest side. He is mentally unstable and may have had an accomplice, Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik said Saturday evening.

A former classmate of Loughner at Pima, from which he was suspended Sept. 29 for code-of-conduct violations, said he was "obviously very disturbed."

"He disrupted class frequently with nonsensical outbursts," said Lynda Sorenson, who took a math class with Loughner last summer at Pima Community College's Northwest campus.

Dupnik said the suspected shooter has made death threats before and been contacted by law-enforcement officers. The threats weren't against Giffords, Dupnik said.

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As a middle school student, Loughner was "kind of an outcast," said Shannin Macey, who said via e-mail she attended Tortolita and Mountain View with him. In high school, Loughner was in jazz band and played the saxophone, but he dropped out in junior year, said Tommy Marriotti, who was a high-school friend of Loughner.

At the time he dropped out, Loughner was having drug problems, Marriotti said, but he seemed to do well once he started taking classes at Pima.

Loughner attended Pima courses from summer 2005 until he withdrew in October after his suspension, the college said.

He tried to enlist in the Army in 2008 but was rejected, said First Sgt. Brian Homme, who oversees Army recruiting in Tucson. Loughner was sent to Phoenix to take a test and physical, but "he was found to be unqualified," Homme said.

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Sorenson, Loughner's classmate at Pima, said he was asked to leave the pre-algebra class several times and eventually was barred from class.

Pima officials said in a news release that from February to September 2010, Loughner had five contacts with PCC police for classroom and library disruptions at Northwest and West campuses.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dupnik; giffords; grifford; jaredleeloughner; jaredloughner; loughner
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To: nuconvert

He was over 21, and taking remedial classes at a junior college - that is fairly typical (no word on a GED)


61 posted on 01/09/2011 7:45:28 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it !)
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To: BenLurkin

http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/01/assassin-jared-loughner-member-of.html


62 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:39 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: milagro
the "crimes against humanity" which Hitler and Stalin committed were not motivated by anything Evil--just their own lack of "self esteem" developed during childhoods in "villages" that failed to care for them properly. And--of course--much too easy access to guns!

You know what? Now that you mention it...

I'll bet their actions were all the fault of Rush/Palin/Bush too.

63 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:59 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month)
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To: nuconvert

anyone can get in to college.
The requirements are almost non-existent.
Legal, illegal, sane, crazy.
It’s all about filling the seats for money to pay the salaries of the “educators” and faculty.


64 posted on 01/09/2011 7:47:03 AM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race.)
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To: VRWCTexan

Schizophrenia can develop in the early 20’s for many. Could it be that he was a developing schizophrenic, and not a soldier for Sarah Palin, as our lame media wants to suggest?

If he was, we’ll surely never hear about it. It’s all about the VITROL now.


65 posted on 01/09/2011 7:48:48 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: saganite
The Congresswoman’s husband is an Astronaut and is in fact in training (although probably not anymore) for the next Shuttle mission.

Probably not. On Fox it was reported that he was at the hospital and "not doing well."

66 posted on 01/09/2011 7:51:32 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: Mamzelle
In response to Loughner's ramblings, other members wrote that they were "struggling to see the point of [his] topic" and that they weren't sure what he was talking about.

It speaks volumes about the gullibility of that crowd that they would even try to make sense of his stuff.

67 posted on 01/09/2011 7:53:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: imfrmdixie

I no longer believe that. I believe that the drugs and “therapies” worsen the condition. This is from my unscientific sampling of people that I know. I no longer believe the propaganda spread by the therapeutic community.


68 posted on 01/09/2011 7:53:27 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: LibsRJerks
There are high school friends of his that tweeted about a 2006 event of alcohol poisoning - apparently he also has drug related arrests
69 posted on 01/09/2011 7:53:56 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it !)
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To: VRWCTexan; 9422WMR

I guess things have changed a lot since I went to school


70 posted on 01/09/2011 7:56:07 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: RummyChick

I must respectfully state that I do not believe that God willed this evil, or any evil, to happen. God allows people to do evil because God cannot/will not intervene in our free will and responsibility. But to say that anything like this was “God’s will” is disturbing to me. God wills us to do good, reject evil, and to love one another above all. When we do not, God grieves with those we hurt. We are not pawns, we are free agents.


71 posted on 01/09/2011 7:56:07 AM PST by Laura Lee (People Power)
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To: UCANSEE2
It does seem to explain much of the 'concerted effort' that the Sheriff, the Media, and Politicians are making to assign the blame before gathering the facts.

You're right, and they also seem to see this as possibly a desperate chance to make political hay that might work against their enemies. After the last election, they certainly know that revived conservatives, the Tea Party, and Sarah Palin are a threat to their socialist agenda. They will have no aversion to standing on their own bodies, murdered by their own members, instigated by their own lunatic rhetoric, if that will work. The majority of the democrat party has come completely off the hinges, and has become something evil and dangerous to know.

Facing failure will only inject steroids into their lunatic workout regemin. The devil's spawn has risen to the top, and they will not go quietly away.
72 posted on 01/09/2011 8:00:23 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: nuconvert
He probably took the GED, because you also can't get into the military without a high school diploma or a GED.

I did it. I dropped out of high school at 16 and took my GED. I went directly to college, and received my diploma at 20. There were a lot of kids doing that when the GED first came out.

However, they closed that loophole now. You are no longer allowed to take the GED until your 18.

73 posted on 01/09/2011 8:03:21 AM PST by kara37
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To: imfrmdixie
The problem with people with mental illnesses is that they won’t follow through with taking their medications or attending therapies or outpatient treatments so their mental illnesses kick back in and major problems happen.

If JL was mentally ill, why did he still have the RIGHT to legally purchase a gun ?

The Sheriff knew that JL was crazy and took no action to ensure the safety of other residents of Pima county.

Oh, the Sheriff is a Democrat
and he has been Sheriff for 20 + years.

Whats wrong with this picture ?

It seems as if the Sheriff was complicit.


74 posted on 01/09/2011 8:05:35 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: kara37

It’s possible he had a GED. But if you look at the timeline between when he left school and started college, it just didn’t seem like there was enough time to study for a GED. Maybe he just took it cold without really preparing for it.


75 posted on 01/09/2011 8:10:10 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert
I don't know if it has changed since I took it in 1984, but anyone with a 8th grade education could of passed it.
76 posted on 01/09/2011 8:17:13 AM PST by kara37
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Waiting for the lame stream media to start with the ole...

He was an abused child, his mommy didn't love him enough, his dad left when he was 2, he was on Ritilan, etc,etc.

77 posted on 01/09/2011 8:30:11 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Mamzelle
We could start with that puffy old crook of a Sheriff, Clarence Dupnik.

Juan Williams, bless his liberal heart, just said on Fox it is wrong to blame the right-wing; this person was deranged. He can understand some trying to do that for political reasons, but we must continue to have political discourse or else we lose "out stripes." And says rhetoric in no way means taking violent action.

78 posted on 01/09/2011 8:34:56 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: bill1952
And what college has the need for 4th grade pre algebra class?

Generally for older students. If you have not used Algebra for 15 or 20 years you tend to forget how to do it.

79 posted on 01/09/2011 8:35:23 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

The shooter was also a pothead.

Many people who have a predisposition to schizophrenia will function normally until they get exposed to marijuana which then triggers a psychotic break. Many of the mumbling schizophrenics on the street would not be there if they didn’t use pot. It is a trigger in those susceptible to it.

Leftist pothead paranoid schizophrenic is a diagnosis supported by the reported symptoms.


80 posted on 01/09/2011 8:41:25 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Bipartisanship: The PC Term for Collaboration with the Enemy)
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