Skip to comments.DHS Memo Suggests Shooter May Be Linked To Racist Organization
Posted on 01/09/2011 7:56:53 AM PST by winoneforthegipper
According to a memo obtained by Fox News with information compiled by the Department of Homeland Security and released to state law enforcement officials, Jared Loughner, the alleged shooter of Congressman Gabrielle Giffords, may have been influenced by a pro-white racist organization that publishes an anti-immigration newsletter.
No direct connection, but strong suspicion is being direceted at American Renaissance, an organization that Loughner mentioned in some of his internet postings and federal law enforcement officials are investigating Loughner's possible links to the organization. The organization is a monthly publication that promotes a variety of white racial positions.
Further, the suspect's mother works for the Pime County Board of Supervisors.
(Excerpt) Read more at politics.blogs.foxnews.com ...
You can post about the AmRen response to the allegation on Fox (to help keep the story straight), just please don’t post a link to their website, as American Renaissance has been blocked at FR for some time due to their racist tendencies.
What is the national front?
I guess that means you also should not link to La raza or to the Black Congressional caucus - or Al Sharpton’s group, Jesse Jackson’s group, etc.
ATS user name erad3...
The suspect had worked with children for a group affiliated with ERAD.
Don’t blame you—no need to invite racist associations even though I am all in favor of free association—still the Leftist opposition will always accentuate the tiny negatives and spike the gigantic positives of any freedom promoting public forum.
Years back when we were debating the Confederate Flag over the Capital Dome, AMREM got involved UNFORTUNATELY on the side that saw heritage and not hate in the old battle flag.
Their help was not wanted but it was too late and the race hustlers had already tied us to them and other groups so we knew we couldn’t win.
If the Youtube article linked on Drudge yesterday was legit, it seems the shooter is psychotic and totally out of it. Schizophrenia is horrible and I really resent the Kos and other liberal rags blaming the tea party, etc, before they had any facts.
AM I surprised, NO. For those of you who have never been on the Huffington Post, it is really eye opening. The level of hate seen is really scary.
I meant AMREN.
DHS is just trying to cover their butt
when they tarred all political organizations as potential domestic terrorists.
Liberals (and their hatchet men like DHS and sheriff)
have to have someone convenient to blame.
Whatever happened to see something, say something? by DHS
I guess that failed here.
This loon gave numerous red flags and I believe he is closer
to the VA Tech mass murderer.
Why didn’t his parents take him to a psychiatrist? Why wasn’t
his behaviour flagged?
Here they are talking about the posts concerning the bird that is on his shoulder in the video.
I laughed and laughed at this comment
“Not to discourage your investigation...
But it seems like one of you wants there to be some sort of crazy scaled bird that came from a meteor that is also responsible for the mass bird deaths and inspiring a person to kill mass people????
Not to say your going down the wrong path but....”
It was confirmed yesterday that this idiot is a member of a white racist organization.
It’s called the Democrat party.
Well, the Palin card failed, and the Tea Party card isn't sticking. The only thing sticking so far is that this guy's been reading all the right manuals to become a progressive and they want to deflect attention from that fact.
Maybe the 'Traveling Wannabees' - they're certainly not musicians, even if they continually present the same old song and dance.
Figues that the pro-Hispanic KKK types will try to blame the shootings on some “white/anti-Immigrant” group.
Loughner was a liberal...and it is time for liberals to accept it
Personally, I think it is the Anti NASA rants that are the key.
Anti Immigration would not make him want to kill Gifford.
Anti Christian would not make him want to kill Gifford
The Judge couldn’t have been the target because he just happened to be there.
I think it has something to do with his beliefs about Aliens and NASA.
Perhaps he saw Gifford and her husband as part of the conspiracy to bring Aliens to the earth or some other wild thing that was in his head. Perhaps the accomplice set him off ..for whatever reason ..or because he was also crazy and thought aliens were causing all of these freak bird/fish stories of late.
from a poster:
This guy is talking about a new bird on his right shoulder. At NASA, either the mission patch or the NASA logo patch is worn on the right shoulder. Then he goes on to say, “there’s no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body.
Now, to the meat and potatoes of my conspiracy theory.
Her husband, Mark Kelly, an astronaut, will be the commander of STS-134 Endeavour. Prior to this upcoming mission, the last for the shuttle, he was commander of STS-124 Discovery, the same mission that the camera operator on board the shuttle filmed a UFO near the ISS.
Further, we all know that Rep. Giffords has a seat on the Science and Technology Committee, where she served as chairwoman of the Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee.
Let’s focus now on the part where Loughner states, “it’s with one red eye with a light blue iris. I now give you the NASA Orion patch:
Note the red “eye” with the blue iris.
And then there is the whole, “you shouldn’t be afraid of the stars.” Many NASA references in my opinion.
Is it possible that Rep. Giffords got just a little bit too much info from her astronaut husband about exactly what was filmed during STS-124, or exactly why NASA is so interested in returning to the moon?
Could this guy have been nothing more than a brainwashed assassin?
It’s far fetched, I know. “
DHS needs to look at Alien and Anti Nasa part of this story instead of trying to link him to the tea Party.
In 1980 and 1981, before and after Ronald Reagan was elected, he was viciously reviled in the press. Polite liberals would call him an amiable dunce or a advocate of “voodoo economics”, but more often was demonized as a dangerous rightwing conservative and a war monger.
On March 30, 1981, a lunatic named John Hinckley, Jr. shot President Reagan in an assassination attempt.
I don’t recall any Republicans or conservatives blaming the assassination on the exercise of the free speech right to criticize political opponents, or calling out the leftwing media to tone down their rhetoric.
This is the post of the year!!! Great response!!
Someone posted on ATS that Loughner was suspended from College until he got a psych evaluation because of his acting like a lunatic in class.
Not sure where they got that info...maybe made it up.
Speaking of aliens... have you seen this video of Loughner’s from August of last year?
If this is the best DHS can do they need to be shut down immediately!
For 20+ years!!
SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"
WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.
HANNITY: But I'm a reverend
WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?
"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology."
Although it [The New Black Panther Party] says it sees capitalism as the fundamental problem with the world and revolution as the solution, the new party does not draw its influences from Marxism or Maoism as the original party did. Instead, in a carefully-worded, roundabout form of ethnic nationalism, they say that Marx based his ideology and teachings on indigenous African cultures, and that the NBPP therefore need not look to Marxism or Maoism as a basis for their program, but can look to ideologies that stem directly from those African origins.
"The Justice Department originally brought the case against four armed men who witnesses say derided voters with catcalls of "white devil" and "cracker" and told voters they should prepare to be "ruled by the black man." ..."
One poll watcher called police after he reportedly saw one of the men brandishing a nightstick to threaten voters.
As I walked up, they closed ranks, next to each other, the witness told Fox News at the time. So I walked directly in between them, went inside and found the poll watchers. They said theyd been here for about an hour. And they told us not to come outside because a black man is going to win this election no matter what.
He said the man with a nightstick told him, Were tired of white supremacy, and he starts tapping the nightstick in his hand. At which point I said, OK, were not going to get in a fistfight right here, and I called the police....
Lets focus now on the part where Loughner states, its with one red eye with a light blue iris. I now give you the NASA Orion patch:
Note the red eye with the blue iris.
You might find 62 interesting...
Joe Stack (IRS plane crasher) sums up his manifesto with this, a popular Karl Marx quote and a stab at Capitalism...
The communist creed:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed:
From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.
-Joe Stack (1956-2010)
Full text here: (CNN PDF file)
"The woman accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville [Amy Bishop] was a suspect in a 1993 attempted mail bombing, according to a report by The Boston Globe.
The report broke the day after it was learned that Bishop fatally shot her brother in Braintree in 1986. ..."
"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was "obsessed" with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."--Boston Herald, February 15, 2010
'Oddball' portrait of Amy Bishop emerges:
Unabomber essay urges attacks on 'techno-industrial system'
July 27, 2002 | By Dan Eggen, Dominic Gates, Washington Post
In an article published this spring by Green Anarchy, a radical environmental newsletter, [unabomber Ted] Kaczynski calls on revolutionaries to "eliminate the entire techno-industrial system" by "hitting where it hurts" and disparages the activities of most radicals as "pointless."
From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007
Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.
Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.
Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."
The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.
I think I grabbed a screen shot of his facebook page before that disappeared. Not positive, looks like all the information jives. I don’t know how to post photos here but if anyone is interested they can shoot me an email.
“I really resent the Kos and other liberal rags blaming the tea party, etc, before they had any facts.”
Sadly, this has become a PROGRAMMED RESPONSE, thanks to the leftist media machine.
Ask your favorite leftist who said “I can see Russia from my house!!”. Most likely, they will respond SARAH PALIN.
Sarah never said that, it was TINA FEY on Saturday Night Live. But most folks don’t know that.
Do we know of any, other than the Communist Manifesto being one of his favorite books?
The current host on the lib talk station - KGO 810 - in San Fran is doing it now, and throwing in the target symbols from Palin. Of course, considering where he is broadcasting from, he has a ready made audience to say , "Amen" to his rants.
If you know of Communist links, by all means........
FR won’t let you link to them.
AmRen’s founder is Jared Taylor who was a member of the National Front and also founded the “New Century Foundation” an overt racist ‘think tank’ (their description) and also works and writes for the Council of Conservative Citizens which is run by the same people who run StormFront. This is pretty common knowledge.
..also, both David Duke and Jamie Kelso (StormFront founder) write for AmRen.
Hating NASA - one more reason to shoot Giffords.
I spent just a few minutes on the Amren.com site.
I see absolutely nothing racist there and it is non-controversial when compared to La Raza or the NAACP.
At most it advocates for restrictions on immigration from 3rd world countries and extols the virtues of Western Civilization...which happens to be predominately white.
La Raza advocates for the separation of the Southwest and the creation of new country...after expelling whites.
Yeah, let's HAVE this conversation.
FR wont let you link to them.
Exactly what is your point?
Isn’t my post a short hand way of saying FR believes they are a racist organization?
Of course, we can link to the Congressional Black Caucus and we can link to Reverend Wright’s church as well as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
Jared Taylor is a member of the Natinal Front? Really? I’m sure you have some evidence for that you can provide us, perhaps along with evidence of his anarchist and racist tendencies. Besides the “everybody knows” dodge.
You were reading my mind
A POST FROM ANOTHER THREAD:
The AmRen group has been holding meetings in the DC area for years.
It is well known that Jared Taylor is non-violent and pro-Jewish. He is more famous for being pro-Jewish than anything else. That is a source of much resentment among the anti-Semites who are pro-White.
The idea that AmRen is promoting violence is absurd to anyone who has even the slightest familiarity with the organization. They are a suit and tie, academic type group.
30 posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 1:10:31 PM by WilliamHouston
A woman knocked out the magazine as he was trying to reload and was wounded and saved a lot of people. He was able to insert another one and two man got the weapon away.
31 shots could have been fired
his intent was to kill everyone he could
Same here. Wonder if all its members revere Marx/Engels (like Loughner does)?
From his own dvd from a national conference Why Americans Resist Race Realism with Bruno Gollnisch a National Front founder in which he proclaims his membership. We can’t post the link here but it is really easy to find on AmRen’s site
DHS is manufacturing the evidence right now.
By the time they finish they will have photographs of Jared Loughner sitting in Sarah Palin's kitchen eating mooseburgers while she shows him how to fire stinger missles.
What are you, some kind of McCarthy-ite? Have You No Shame?
It's sarcasm, OK? ess-ay-are-sea-ay-ess-em.
***On March 30, 1981, a lunatic named John Hinckley, Jr. shot President Reagan in an assassination attempt.****
I remember that day and how the MSM absolutly went bonkers!
I’ll never forget how, on ABC, Frank Reynolds reacted when it was announced that Hinckley bought his gun in DALLAS!
Reynolds threw up his arms and yelled...
“OH! DALLAS!” Obviously a flashback to 1963.
Odds are this sheriff gave him a pass earlier in his acting-out.