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Palin is the Republican Obama
American Conservative ^ | 1/19/11 | Jack Hunter

Posted on 01/19/2011 12:18:49 AM PST by pissant

When you ask Barack Obama’s admirers what they like most about him, you will typically hear of his personality traits before any specifics about policy. Obama’s fans say that he is so “smart… cool-headed… articulate…” To point out that in terms of policy, Obama isn’t that different from most other conventional Democrats–or even that different from George W. Bush–does little to dissuade the president’s most ardent champions, and any failure to live up to liberal ideals does little to change Obama’s current popular status as liberalism personified.

Sarah Palin is the Republican Obama. When you ask Palin’s admirers what they like most about her, you will typically hear of her personality traits before any specifics about policy. Palin’s fans say that she is “warm-hearted… down-to-earth… a good mom…” To point out that Palin’s actual politics aren’t that different from most other conventional Republicans, or in some ways, not much different from Obama’s, does not dissuade the former Alaska governor’s most ardent champions. And any failure to live up to conservative ideals fails to change Palin’s popular status as conservatism personified.

Obama and Palin represent opposing versions of the same identity politics. Based primarily on personality, love, or hatred for the other, it is politics driven primarily by emotion–not logic. If you don’t believe me, try telling an Obama-loving Democrat that he is no different from a Palin-loving Republican or vice versa. Even the soundest reasoning will do little to quell the forthcoming rage.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: falconpartyof1; freepressforpalin; palin; pissant4obama; pissant4rinos; zotpissant
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FWIW
1 posted on 01/19/2011 12:18:51 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Hunter thinks Obama is another Bush... that’s all I had to see


2 posted on 01/19/2011 12:20:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t know who this Hunter guy is, but the level of worship is roughly equivalent.


3 posted on 01/19/2011 12:21:23 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

Blah, blah, blah, yada, yada, yada. Every one of these you post makes me set my Palin 2012 fundraising goals higher and higher. If she were the greedy crooked pol that the presstitutes sometimes try and paint her, I’d be on the path to being named the ambassador to the Bahamas before this was all over... “FWIW” indeed...


4 posted on 01/19/2011 12:28:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you get appointed Ambassador to the Bahamas, we’re crashing your beach house.


5 posted on 01/19/2011 12:30:33 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

All FReepers and Lurkers will be welcome. Check with my butler, maid or manservant as to room availability, though...


6 posted on 01/19/2011 12:32:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Room? Tent on the beach will be fine. Large buckets of ice cold beer is scantily clad help would be nice though.


7 posted on 01/19/2011 12:38:21 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
Not worth anything!

Drug-induced commie-style propaganda crap!

8 posted on 01/19/2011 12:46:48 AM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: pissant; 2ndDivisionVet; onyx
"To point out that Palin’s actual politics aren’t that different from most other conventional Republicans, or in some ways, not much different from Obama’s,....."


HorseCrap.

9 posted on 01/19/2011 12:51:01 AM PST by shibumi (I am the Astra-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: shibumi

I can’t think of a single area where she is more conservative than your run of mill republican. I can think of several where she is more liberal.


10 posted on 01/19/2011 12:53:15 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
"So why the focus on Palin? Why so much conversation about a conversation not even worth having?"

Bears repeating.

11 posted on 01/19/2011 12:57:41 AM PST by americanophile
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To: pissant
"I can’t think of a single area where she is more conservative than your run of mill republican."

Abortion.

"I can think of several where she is more liberal."

Name them.
12 posted on 01/19/2011 12:58:04 AM PST by shibumi (I am the Astra-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: shibumi; calcowgirl

Abortion? The vast, vast majority of GOPers are pro-life. And many want to amend the constitution to define life as beginning at conception. Even old Ron Paul favors that.

Palin? She’s an avowed federalist that doesn’t want the federal government making that decision. That’s a cop out, big time, especially in light of the fact she has no problem cheerleading for the Feds to cram feminist CLAPTRAP like Title IX down every state and citizens’ throat.


13 posted on 01/19/2011 1:01:52 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
Obama has no cojones.
14 posted on 01/19/2011 1:09:33 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (I Love Catholic Nerds)
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To: pissant
"Palin? She’s an avowed federalist that doesn’t want the federal government making that decision."

In stating that Palin is a avowed Federalist, you have just certified her with better Conservative Credentials than any GOPer who appears on this list: (Which includes 33 Senators.)

List of Republicans who voted for TARP Wikipedia entry for TARP House of Representatives Bono Mack, Mary CA-45 Calvert, Ken CA-44 Campbell, John CA-48 Ehlers, Vernon MI-3 Ferguson, Michael NJ-7 Fossella, Vito NY-13 Herger, Walter CA-2 King, Peter NY-3 LaHood, Ray IL-18 Lewis, Jerry CA-41 McCrery, James LA-4 Peterson, John PA-5 Pickering, Charles MS-3 Radanovich, George CA-19 Ramstad, James MN-3 Regula, Ralph OH-16 Ryan, Paul WI Saxton, H. NJ-3 Walsh, James NY-25 Wamp, Zach TN-3 Wilson, Heather NM-1 Source: govtrack.us Senate Alexander (R-TN) Bennett (R-UT) Bond (R-MO) Burr (R-NC) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Corker (R-TN) Cornyn (R-TX) Craig (R-ID) Domenici (R-NM) Ensign (R-NV) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Isakson (R-GA) Kyl (R-AZ) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Thune (R-SD) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Source: senate.g

There's a big difference between being committed to an issue and believing that the Federal Government has a role in deciding that issue.

Palin has demonstrated very graphically her commitment to the sanctity of life, in a manner more dramatic than any in recent memory.

You said you could think of several areas where she's more liberal than most Republicans. Apart from her enthusiasm about money already spent on Title IX, just what are they?
15 posted on 01/19/2011 1:25:35 AM PST by shibumi (I am the Astro-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: pissant

Correction. Sarah Palin is the Anti-Obama. They are polar opposites. Anyone who doesn’t see that is in denial and not politically astute.


16 posted on 01/19/2011 1:32:41 AM PST by sarah palin rocks
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To: pissant
She’s an avowed federalist that doesn’t want the federal government making that decision.

So ... she's pro-States Rights? I'm not seeing the problem with that.

You may not be aware of this - after all, you appear to believe in the veracity of CNN and PPP polls, so it's hard to be sure of what you're aware of - but devolving power to the States Or To The People is the Conservative, Constitutional position.

17 posted on 01/19/2011 1:36:16 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: pissant

FWIW, Comparing Palin to another “genuine conservative” like Romney or Huckabee shows some real differences. All articulate the same beliefs in front of a conservative audience. The difference is not that Palin is “warm-hearted… down-to-earth… a good mom…” but that she genuinely believes in those values and articulates the same values regardless of her audience - and she governs by those values to the extent that the state Constitution and court rulings permit.

Palin is pro-gun, pro-Second Amendment when she’s hunting to bring home dinner for her family and not just when speaking to the NRA. Palin is pro-life when she’s pregnant with a Downs Syndrome baby and when her teen daughter is pregnant and not just in campaign sound bites. Palin is pro-military when her son is choosing a job and not just in her Veteran’s Day speeches. Palin believes in limited government and the separation of powers even when those limits prevent her office from doing what she would like to do. I was a big fan of hers well before McCain chose her for VP, and I read about her effective governance well before the mainstream media got into their anti-Palin game.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 1:36:49 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: agere_contra; pissant
".....but devolving power to the States Or To The People is the Conservative, Constitutional position."

When someone says something better than I said it, I defer.

What you said.
19 posted on 01/19/2011 1:40:07 AM PST by shibumi (I am the Astro-Creep, demolition style an American Freak!)
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To: pissant

Sarah Palin can produce a legitimate birth certificate..A major difference.


20 posted on 01/19/2011 1:57:10 AM PST by jazzlite (esat)
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To: pissant

Dont know who he has been talking too, I hear more descriptions like pitbull, and non-typical politician...

Sarah’s list of positive accomplishments is still miles longer than Obama’s.


21 posted on 01/19/2011 2:10:58 AM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: pissant
Obama hid his Marxist beliefs.
Sarah Palin is flashing her conservative principles.
Everything comes from personal ideology and as long as you are conservative to the core one may be sanguine of your future plans.
So the comparison is not only apples and oranges it is stupid.
22 posted on 01/19/2011 2:58:25 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: pissant

I can agree with him and still believe that a Palin adminstration on its worst day would be better than the incumbent on its best.


23 posted on 01/19/2011 3:12:52 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: pissant

FWIW

NAWL

Not A Whole Lot

I mean, why don’t you just be truthful and say you are lying? Palin has s much to do with the old line republicrats as I do, and that would be zilch. But don’t let that stop you from posting more crap pissant.


24 posted on 01/19/2011 3:38:59 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: pissant

This is true.

Of course, instead of sweeping a government of communists, grifters, and scumbags, Sarah will bring with her a flood of patriots.

But the analogy (electorally) with Obama is quite accurate, I’ve used it myself.


25 posted on 01/19/2011 3:42:05 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: pissant

Pissant, Gov. Palin is much more conservative
than the RINOs you support like Barbour, Ron Paul and
Romney. j

Pissant, you support RINOs. Give it a break.


26 posted on 01/19/2011 3:43:16 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: pissant

Man, everybody has to get into the act!


27 posted on 01/19/2011 3:44:12 AM PST by Doc Savage
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To: sarah palin rocks

“Sarah Palin is the Anti-Obama. They are polar opposites.”

Bingo! Saying she’s the Republican Obama is a true insult to her, as it implies:
a) She’s a shameless liar willing to say anything to see her unpopular policies crammed down the throats of Americans against their willing;
b) She’s a hypocrite willing to call out her opponents for their lack of civility even as she engages some of the most offensive and divisive rhetoric ever witnessed by an alleged national leader;
c) She’s a patronage politician who views government service as an opportunity to reward friends and punish enemies with funds, jobs and all other manner of taxpayer-financed loot;
d) She’s a shameless spendthrift happily willing to mortgage the country’s future in the service of her spending priorities;
e) She’s an artful dissembler unable or unwilling to produce a legitimate birth certificate or be transparent about her academic records or other information that routinely has been provided by past presidential candidates; indeed, she’d rather let a decorated military officer sit in prison than release a simple document that tens of millions of Americans are routinely asked to produce in the course of securing jobs or even allowing their kids to participant in sports.

The list is much longer, but you get the idea.


28 posted on 01/19/2011 4:10:23 AM PST by DrC
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To: jazzlite

BTW. off topic: Drudge is reporting a WND story that the Governor of Hawaii cannot find Dear Leader’s hospital issued birth certificate in any state archive yet... only a written statement by someone that Our Dear Leader was so born in Hawaii.


29 posted on 01/19/2011 4:13:20 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: pissant
"When you ask Palin’s admirers what they like most about her, you will typically hear of her personality traits before any specifics about policy."

With that opening statement, the writer totally discredited himself and demonstrated he has no clue why America supports Sarah.

30 posted on 01/19/2011 4:15:54 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: PIF

Snippet from the WND story http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833:

“WND has also reported that Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, has maintained that there is no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health and that neither Honolulu hospital – Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center – has any record that Obama was born there.”


31 posted on 01/19/2011 4:26:00 AM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: pissant
This is horse squeeze. This is more of the mushy corrupt political world trying to paint all politicians as basically the same, and they are not.

Sarah has my vote, and it isn't because of any warm fuzzy feeling. I like her politics. I like her willingness to fight and not back down. I like her small business background and NON HARVARD or YALE education. It is time for real Americans to once again fix our nation. The ivy league screwballs need to go ponder their thumbs.

32 posted on 01/19/2011 4:28:48 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (RIP Royal Marshall, you ran the good race.)
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To: pissant

FWIW.

Well, it’s not worth much.


33 posted on 01/19/2011 4:29:22 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: pissant
Palin is the Republican Obama

The slander Governor Palin must endure is sometimes unbearable...

34 posted on 01/19/2011 4:34:26 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: pissant

This is a low blow... even for you. obama is evil icarnate. Sarah is in no way evil... but this post and the author are.

LLS


35 posted on 01/19/2011 4:42:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: pissant; calcowgirl
RE :”Abortion? The vast, vast majority of GOPers are pro-life. And many want to amend the constitution to define life as beginning at conception. Even old Ron Paul favors that. Palin? She’s an avowed federalist that doesn’t want the federal government making that decision.

I tend to agree with Palin on that view as an ideal, also relating to the Civil Rights act, hate crime laws and other Federal government power expansions. In fact I can live with states making their own marriage laws too. It's hard to object to Democrats expansions of federal power as unconstitutional and support other ones on issues we agree with.

36 posted on 01/19/2011 4:43:56 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: pissant; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Avoiding_Sulla; calcowgirl; ...
One thing he misses is that Palin resonates emotionally also because she publically plays the role of the ‘ anti-Obama’. Publicly giving Obama grief for his policies even if not hurting him politically fills a deep emotional need on our side. That is also why Rush is such a business success. It's like the 1970s movie where the guy on TV had a hit show telling us to yell out the window:"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore"

This seems to be in the context of her being presidential material . FROM THE POST LINK:

So why the focus on Palin? Why so much conversation about a conversation not even worth having? Because liberals now project everything they hate about the GOP, the Tea Party, and conservatives onto Palin. This time the longstanding hatred became so ferocious that it also became blinding, resulting in accusations that were completely baseless.
I dislike Obama because of his big government policies, which are in large part an even more ambitious continuation of the last Republican president’s agenda. I dislike Palin because her rhetoric is little more than sound bites and catchphrases, making it hard to imagine that she possesses a genuinely sound conservative philosophy to substantively refute and reject the same big government policies. Palin also seems willing to ignore the conservative hypocrisy that ruined the Bush presidency and Republican Party–meaning perhaps she would also be willing to endure another round of it. This simply will not do. That Obama is charismatic does not excuse his horrible policies–and that Palin is cute or charming does not excuse her less than comprehensive conservative politics”

37 posted on 01/19/2011 5:04:38 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: pissant
Obama and Palin represent opposing versions of the same identity politics. Based primarily on personality, love, or hatred for the other, it is politics driven primarily by emotion–not logic

BS! FWIW I'm getting really sick of your trying to dig up dirt on this good woman.

38 posted on 01/19/2011 5:12:41 AM PST by McGruff (We must reject the idea that every time a laws broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker)
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To: McGruff; pissant
BS! FWIW I'm getting really sick of your trying to dig up dirt on this good woman.

I have to say that Pissant is doing a service with his work, even though he is pretty much a one note wonder as far as Palin goes. He brings stuff that folks are saying that is provocative. It typically is a slander or libel of some sort when you get down to it, but he searches for effective ones and tries to post them as an argument against her. And frankly, it gives folks a chance to pick that argument apart.

Pissant is not engaging in the I hate Palin thing, or she is dumb thing. He attempts to find evidence. This is what we do here. You could call him a contrarian specialist.

He has his role around here, despicable as it is. In politics we call this the loyal opposition. Pissant mostly stays inside the bounds and passionately pushes his point of view. This is a good thing and not a bad one. But, of course, then you have to pick this crap apart and show him once again how this is so wrong. But, hey that's what we do here.

39 posted on 01/19/2011 6:10:26 AM PST by dalight
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To: sickoflibs

UNless you honestly believe that the fetus is a living human being.


40 posted on 01/19/2011 9:21:22 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Diogenesis

I support Ron Paul? Romney? Barbour? If you’re that removed from reality, then I guess I understand why you think Palin is a conservative


41 posted on 01/19/2011 9:31:09 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
RE :”UNless you honestly believe that the fetus is a living human being.

No, I (and apparently Palin) believe in the US constitution where BOTH abortion laws AND murder laws should both be at the state level as they were most of US history. I understand the political expediency in crafting these Federal laws but it sort of throws the argument that the other side violates the Constitution in the tank. That was the big problem with Bush apologists that suddenly got religion on the constitution January 2009. And there are many other examples i wont go into here.

42 posted on 01/19/2011 9:33:22 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

No. If you believe that an unborn child is indeed a human being, then they are deserving of constitutional protections. We can leave it up to the states how they want to punish the crime of abortion. The states all prosecute murder, for it is understood that all citizens have a constitutional right to their life. IOW, a state cannot decide that murder is OK if you are a homeless drunk. Or retarded. Or a certain minority. Or a certain age (except pre-born).

This has nothing to do with Bush. Bush didn’t push for ‘life at conception’ legislation nor did he tout an amendment remedy. Either an unborn child is a person or he isn’t


43 posted on 01/19/2011 9:45:02 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
RE :”No. If you believe that an unborn child is indeed a human being, then they are deserving of constitutional protections

You are completely misreading the US constitution as Democrats and many Republicans do. The US constitution protects you FROM the government, NOT from your mother. It is the state's job to protect you from your parents, or anyone else. That is why states made the murder and abortion laws for most of US history. The 1960s civil rights act has some provisions that should have been ruled unconstitutional and would of been 50 years earlier, primarily regarding private businesses.

The expansive view of US constitutional protections, that it protects everybody from everybody, is how we get the government taking businesses and property and giving it to others.

Palin is growing on me the last few comments.

44 posted on 01/19/2011 10:02:10 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

No, YOU misread the constitution. And have it ass backwards, as well as the Declaration of Independence. Our rights, life, liberty are given to us by our creator. They are inalienable, and codified in the constitution. Georgia cannot decide not to prosecute citizens for violating another’s constitutional rights. The KKK rightly became a federal concern. Just as it is illegal, FINALLY, for Chicago to ban handguns. So too, would it be illegal for “gun control” vigilantes to set up roadblocks in Illinois and confiscate other citizens firearms. Illinois would be the place to prosecute such vigilantes, but if they chose instead to “legalize” such activity via non-prosecution, the citizens would have a federal remedy.


45 posted on 01/19/2011 10:15:30 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant
RE :”No, YOU misread the constitution. And have it ass backwards, as well as the Declaration of Independence. Our rights, life, liberty are given to us by our creator.

AGAIN:

The constitution protects you from the government, not you from your parents. That was left to the states. If it was the federal governments job in the US constitution to protect you from your parents, it would make perfect sense for the Federal government to force you to go to a doctor and get medical treatment(even if you are not a threat), to protect you from you letting yourself get sick.

The US constitution was not interpreted as you do as all powerful until Roosevelt packed the courts.

46 posted on 01/19/2011 10:28:16 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs

Nonsense. NO entity, mom, State, Uncle Mo, gets to violate another’s constitutional rights.

Can the KKK set up road blocks to keep blacks from voting if SC decides it likes the KKK.

Can Oregon allow doctors to execute any patient over 65 who needs a knee replacement?

Can Hawaii turn a blind eye if the ‘native’ population goes on a vigilante confiscation of “whitey” property?

Your medical treatment example is a straw man. The constitution does not address medical care, and therefore that is (or needs to be) entirely a state/individual matter. Just as SHOULD be 80% of what the feds have put their paws in.

The Constitution does address voting, gun ownership, LIFE, property, due process, etc etc, which neither the states, nor towns, nor counties, not homeowners associations, nor vigilantes, nor cousin Zeke, can violate.


47 posted on 01/19/2011 10:43:08 AM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: pissant

“Drill Baby Drill” is not a personality trait . Its common sense.

And the prospects for American energy independence threaten the entire geopolitical New World Order strategy.

Because she could pull it off.


48 posted on 01/19/2011 10:43:41 AM PST by mo
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To: pissant

Palin is not a Progressive...PERIOD.

They hate her so much because she refuses to live a lie.

The Progressives only know how to live a lie and they want to force everyone else into their personal hell.


49 posted on 01/19/2011 10:50:35 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: pissant
Yes, under the US Constitution it is up to the states to pass laws on all those three private interactions, not the Federal government. If you don't like their laws and cant change them (because of the other state voters) then you can MOVE to a better state. Once you hand unlimited power over to the Federal government, as now, they can do ANYTHING they want and your only option is to flee the country.

This is why constitutional arguments against Obama dont get taken seriously, because so many Republicans want to give unlimited power to the Federal government to force things they think are right.

50 posted on 01/19/2011 11:00:19 AM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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