Posted on 02/02/2011 8:02:23 PM PST by neverdem
D1, a number of your comments were about conversion of voters to conservatism. I have made hundreds of comments on that subject myself. “Selling conservative proposals’ is a phrase I have used for years here at FR.
But consider this thought : converting liberal leaning (middle left) voters that liberalism is bankrupt and conservatism is our national (and personal) salvation is something that can only be done successfully by a conservative communicator like Reagan. The Angles and Palin’s (just for example) are only going to get the current believers. They don’t have the Reagan magic, not close.
They would just get crusified without convincing, in fact they already were.
Thanks for the additional good examples CalCowGirl.
BTW: I agree with the premise SickOfLibs addresses to..., to a point. Let’s not forget that some of these liberal states were won by none other than Ronald Reagan.
You have to make a connection to people. If you give the right focused bedrock speech, one that people can identify with, “Hey, you know, that makes sense to me...”, you can win over people.
Not everyone on the left is an automaton.
With Obama and his policies on the table, every state in this nation is ripe for the picking.
Okay, I appreciate the fact that you have made that case.
You’re not going to get an argument out of me regarding Palin or Angle. I agree.
You’ll have to speak up on specific issues. You’ll have to be genuine. You’ll have to take what may seem like unpopular stands to some. Who does that these days?
People don’t necessarily have to agree with you 100%. They have to be able to trust you. If you explain yourself and follow through with resolve they’ll know you’re genuine.
You can’t say you’re a member of the tea party and then back a crass back-stabber who would sell out this nation at the drop of a hat.
It does take a good communicator. And when I say that I’m talking about substance, not a cheerleader.
We agree on a great deal of things.
Oh, I agree. I wasn't trying to say that was not true. And again, my comments were with respect only to California. IMO, conservatives can win by offering an honest, common-sense, constitutionally based vision. And that does rely on having a messenger that people are willing to, or want to listen to. It would also help if there was an objective media... but those type journalists are a dying breed, I'm afraid.
Oh no problem. That was a given. I knew where you stood.
D1
OK I’m back. Today was another work travel day.
Here’s some more rain to support my thinking: The country has become much more liberal than it was 20 years ago. Think about how gays in the military hurt Clinton in 1993 politically. But last year few elected Republicans even talked about it. The polls had changed dramatically on the subject in the past 20 years and Obama knew he had an easy win. (Gates helped too especially with his military surveys.) It was pathetic, barely mentioned on FNC.
Much of this change happened during Bush. There is some backlash over Democrats being in charge more recently (and NJ is a great surprise ) and but I wouldnt over-read it.
Did you ever show up at a party after everyone had gone home?
(Sorry, just jokin' with ya.) :-)
We need a good SE vanity now. Something amusing like “Voters who don't support Palin for president don't deserve to live” or “Is American good enough for Sarah Palin?” or “I've never felt these feelings before that I do Sarah Palin”
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