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The “Galaxy” of 2012 GOP Stars (Graphical Analysis of GOP POTUS Contenders)
Hotair ^ | 02/05/2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 02/05/2011 12:16:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Nate Silver, in his role as New York Times political poll analyst, has generated a graphical analysis of the various Republican contenders for the 2012 nomination. Clearly we’re still the better part of a year away from the primaries, but what else did you really have to do this weekend aside from arguing over election predictions? Let’s take a look at the graph and then spend a moment discussing how it was crafted.

The GOP Galaxy
We can skip over the relative merit of the chances assigned to each candidate (at least until the comments begin) since Nate took each person’s prospects for winning from their Intrade betting profile. Even the author doesn’t agree with all of them, but simply uses those values as a baseline. I’ll let Nate explain that part himself.

There are two more kinds of information embedded in the chart. First, the area of each candidate’s circle is proportional to their perceived likelihood of winning the nomination, according to the Intrade betting market. Mitt Romney’s circle is drawn many times the size of the one for the relatively obscure talk-radio host Herman Cain because Intrade rates Mr. Romney many times as likely to be nominated.

(I should note that there are several cases in which I am in considerable disagreement with the bettors at Intrade about the viability of each candidate. But using their figures as the basis for drawing the circles at least lends some objectivity to the assessment.)

If we ignore the size of the relative circles – which nobody is going to agree with anyway – the more interesting aspect of this chart is the placement. The further “north” a candidate falls, the more they are considered to be a Washington “insider.” A southerly position indicates a Beltway outsider. The further left they fall, the more “moderate” they are considered, (*cough* RINO) while a position more to the right indicates a perceived traditional conservative ideology.

Recent conventional wisdom would say that Washington insiders are distinctly out of favor, and traditional campaign strategy for the GOP tends to indicate that it’s better to be considered more conservative in the primary race. By that logic, placement in the upper left quadrant – where we find Giuliani, Huntsman and Pataki – would have the absolute worst chance. Landing in the lower right quadrant, as did Palin, Bachmann and Cain, would lend one the best chance.

If we then combine placement with the size of the bubble, indicating odds for victory, we find that Sarah Palin is clearly the next Republican presidential nominee and George Pataki should begin knitting sweaters for the residents of Hell if he plans on winning. But the alternate school of thought is that you need to be able to cast the broadest net for the most supporters, so getting closer to the center of each axis offers the best path to victory. By that rationale, Tim Pawlenty is clearly the next President of the United States and we may as well just skip the whole election.

So, have at it. Whose placement or relative odds is correct on this chart and which ones are totally outside of reality? Do any of the positioning choices surprise you?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012predictions; 2012prognostication; elections; gop; potus
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1 posted on 02/05/2011 12:16:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
BIGGER CHART:


2 posted on 02/05/2011 12:17:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Bogus positioning as Newty is more conservative than Palin.


3 posted on 02/05/2011 12:18:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

The Huckster (being a JUANnabie) is not to the right of Mitt.


4 posted on 02/05/2011 12:23:20 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind
The graph is stupid nonsense.

Backstabber Romney is to the LEFT of Sen. Kennedy.

Mitt Romney: "I'm not running as the Republican view or a continuation of Republican values.
That's not what brings me to the race.

(Romney Video, accessed 9/19/07)



"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party
 over to the traitors in the battle just ended.
We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged
 to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support.
Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates
wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

--  President Ronald Reagan



5 posted on 02/05/2011 12:24:23 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Paladin2
Bogus positioning as Newty is more conservative than Palin.

Uh, the chart shows Newty as more conservative than Palin. I don't agree with it, though. He's lost a lot of conservative street cred, starting January 1995.

6 posted on 02/05/2011 12:25:25 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Win The Future = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: Paladin2

I also wouldn’t call “Huck Off” an outsider either. He’s as outside as Newt or Giuliani.


7 posted on 02/05/2011 12:26:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Paladin2
I think the positioning in fact reflects that, but it has Newt as more of an insider.
8 posted on 02/05/2011 12:27:24 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Diogenesis
"We don't intend to turn the Republican Party over to the traitors in the battle just ended. We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.""

-- President Ronald Reagan

That's pretty vitriolic stuff there. Traitors? Battle? Didn't he realize some schizo could take that as encouragement to shoot a Congressman??

9 posted on 02/05/2011 12:28:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Win The Future = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: SeekAndFind

Palin plus anybody to the right of Romney...

Santorum? Thune?


10 posted on 02/05/2011 12:29:47 PM PST by proudpapa
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To: Cyber Liberty

I forgot my NOT.


11 posted on 02/05/2011 12:30:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

That’ll do it to you sometimes. Somehow, I suspected there was a “not” missing...


12 posted on 02/05/2011 12:31:24 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Win The Future = Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll vote for anyone in the lower right quadrant except Huckabee. I will not vote for libs (anyone left of the centerline) or insiders (any one above the center line.) Demint has only a tiny portion of his circle that is barely above the center line but even then he’s still way right of the line, so I’d have no problem voting for him.

Forget those other three quadrants. They are RINOs and elitists. I will not vote for any of them.


13 posted on 02/05/2011 12:33:29 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Huckster's big red balloon doesn't describe him correctly.

It should on the left, as an insider and deflated.

14 posted on 02/05/2011 12:33:59 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Waryone

That’s my analysis, too. It’s interesting that all three of my favorites are in that box. :)

Seems like a pretty accurate chart, except that Huckabee and Gingrich are way too far right.


15 posted on 02/05/2011 12:42:32 PM PST by Politicalmom (America-The Land of the Sheep, the Home of the Caved.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What do the colors mean?
My best guess is blue = Easterner, red = Southerner,
green = midwesterner, yellow = westerner.

Which Johnson is that moderate outsider? The newly elected Senator from Wisconsin? Thune should get yellow before he does.


16 posted on 02/05/2011 12:43:29 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh no, the figure has blue balls and uncivil crosshairs. Hide the children.


17 posted on 02/05/2011 12:44:40 PM PST by rfp1234 (Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!)
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To: Paladin2

I won’t vote for Huckabee or Mitt. But mitt is a socialist. He is DADT abolishing, mandate, gay marriage and ENDA loving; gun grabbing; pro-abortion; father of Obamacare. He’s one of the biggest socialist RINOs in the republican party.

Like Mitt, Huckabee may be a soft on crime, big govt. loving, statist but unlike Mitt, he is not social lib.


18 posted on 02/05/2011 12:44:57 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: scrabblehack

RE: What do the colors mean?


You guess it right.

According to the original article linked above, the color of each circle reflects the region the candidate is from:

blue for the Northeast,

red for the South,

green for the Midwest,

and yellow for the West.


19 posted on 02/05/2011 12:50:18 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: scrabblehack
What do the colors mean? My best guess is blue = Easterner, red = Southerner, green = midwesterner, yellow = westerne

Right.

Which Johnson is that moderate outsider

Gary Johnson, former governor of New Mexico.

20 posted on 02/05/2011 12:52:59 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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