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Pawlenty impresses Iowans on substance; Group backtracks on Huckabee commitment
TheIowaRepublican.com ^ | 2/8/2012 | Kevin Hall

Posted on 02/08/2011 9:14:25 AM PST by bigred08

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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
I've been hearing that. I have a hard time seeing another Giuliani campaign going anywhere. His performance in 2008 has really damaged his credibility as a national campaigner.

He is blaming his performance on his "Florida or Bust" strategy, and that actually does seem like the most proximate cause of his failure. He was leading in Florida in virtually every poll right up until the New Hampshire primary, and fell behind McCain and Romney almost immediately afterwards. Had he been successful in winning Florida then he would have been in a very strong position going into Super Tuesday, trailing only Romney in delegates.

If that is the case, then I actually don't think it reflects too poorly on him as a candidate. Having the Florida primary - a large, winner-take-all primary in an important General Election battleground state - two weeks before Super Tuesday was unprecedented, and there were a lot of reasons at the time to think that focusing on Florida to the exclusion of the other early states was a winning strategy. Hindsight being 20/20, it turned out to be the wrong strategy, but it's hard to blame him for trying it.

Of course, that wasn't the only reason he lost. While I don't think his liberal social positions were at all fatal to his campaign, they did contribute to its failure. For one thing, part of the reason he focused on Florida is that he didn't think he had a chance in socially conservative Iowa and South Carolina. Also, while I think it's clear that a lot of even socially conservative Republicans were willing to vote for Giuliani despite his positions, they were much less willing to do so when Giuliani stopped looking like a winner.

The big problem for him this time around is that, while he has learned his lesson and knows he has to win in Iowa or New Hampshire, it's going to be even harder for him to do that this time around. He still has the same problems with social conservatives in Iowa that he has always had, and Romney is dug in so deep in New Hampshire that he is going to be difficult for anyone to knock off there. Yeah, he could try South Carolina, but if history is any guide, South Carolina is important as a rubber match for the guys who won Iowa and New Hampshire, not as a place to save the campaign of someone who has won neither.

My guess is that Giuliani may well come to this conclusion himself before too long and decide not to run. I think he knows this is probably his last chance, and doesn't want to let it go by without testing the waters. Ultimately, though, Rudy is a smart guy and probably won't waste time or money on a futile campaign.
81 posted on 02/09/2011 9:39:06 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: cornfedcowboy
I've already given money to Herman Cain, one of the few candidates in that field you listed, with the true guts & capability of directly taking on Obama. The lefties would have a real problem trying to play the race card in THAT match up!!

Top Ten Reasons to Support Herman Cain for President

82 posted on 02/09/2011 2:29:21 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: bigred08

Haven’t seen this mentioned, but I find it troubling that the electorate replaced Pawlenty with - of all people - Mark Dayton.

It seems he made absolutely no lasting impression on them as far as the important difference between parties and ideologies.

I would suggest to him, clean up your Minnesota “house” before entering national politics.


83 posted on 02/09/2011 2:32:34 PM PST by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck -)
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To: ExSoldier

Put The Donald on a ticket with Herman Cain and the Dems will have NO CHANCE of winning any verbal battle!


84 posted on 02/09/2011 2:33:18 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Free Vulcan

This guy has been running for President since he won the governorship in 2002. Totally NUT CASE ambition, ill concealed. And too PC, i.e., too political. He was McCain’s right-hand politicker in the 2008 run.


85 posted on 02/09/2011 3:09:31 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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