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Ethanol is 'good, good, good,' Grassley says
thonline.com ^ | 2/13/2011 | thonline.com

Posted on 02/13/2011 3:42:02 PM PST by mewykwistmas

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To: mewykwistmas

Grassley needs to stop taking us for fools.


21 posted on 02/13/2011 4:10:16 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: cripplecreek

And that very straightforward statement, m’FRiend, defines the ethanol “argument” precisely. Well said!


22 posted on 02/13/2011 4:10:51 PM PST by SAJ (Zerobama -- a phony and a prick, therefore a dildo.)
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To: cripplecreek
But don't we import gas and oil? Aren't jobs killing imports bad thing? All we have to do is buy only the stuff we make. This is buy American at its finest. oops...forgot the
23 posted on 02/13/2011 4:13:25 PM PST by FreedomNotSafety
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To: mewykwistmas

Ethanol bad,
Butanol good


24 posted on 02/13/2011 4:14:20 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Cicero

>>>>Put him on the list of people who need to be replaced.

You got 6 years. He was just reelected to a new term.


25 posted on 02/13/2011 4:16:43 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Again

If ethanol is so damned great, why aren’t the petroleum companies taking up farming on a massive scale?


26 posted on 02/13/2011 4:16:58 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mewykwistmas

Grassley needs to go, go, go.


27 posted on 02/13/2011 4:24:23 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: Outlaw Woman

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10057/04-08-Ethanol.pdf
April 2009 study, Page 10.

It shows that in 2008 3 billion of our 13 billion bushel production was used for ethanol, about 25%.


28 posted on 02/13/2011 4:28:08 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: mewykwistmas

Iowa=farmers=corn=ethanol=a payday

basically another allotment situation for growers ala the FDR administration.

If I was a farmer, I’d love it, too.

This is what happens when the government decides to control a resource.


29 posted on 02/13/2011 4:29:48 PM PST by 4buttons
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To: Balding_Eagle; Outlaw Woman

In addition, a different large scale study shows that more than 1/2 of that 25% was ‘reused’ as animal feed:

http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/animalscifacpub/517/

Use of Distillers Co-products in Diets Fed to Beef Cattle: Klopfenstein, Erickson, and Bremer, 2008

MY NOTE: Especially see the conclusion below, they placed the value of the WDGS left over after ethanol production significantly higher than my earlier estimate.

“Corn is about two-thirds starch, so when starch is removed (fermented), the remaining nutrients are concentrated in the distillers grains by a factor of three. Corn has about 10% protein while distillers grains contain about 30%. Therefore, corn, primarily a source of energy (starch), is converted into a protein source.” Pg 6

“Levels of WDGS replacing dry-rolled corn, high-moisture corn, or replacing a combination of the two ranged from 5.2% to 50%. The most common levels were 30% and 40%, and there was only one comparison at 50%. Experiments had 10 (individually fed) to 50 steers per treatment, and most had more than 40 steers per treatment. The nine experiments included 34 treatment means representing 1,257 steers.” pg 11

“The feeding value for WDGS in steam-flaked corn diets appears to be equal to that of steam-flaked corn, which was 14% greater than that of dry-rolled corn in this trial” pg 27

Conclusions
Distillers grains offer many feeding options to producers when included in feedlot and forage diets....................... The feeding value of WDGS is greater than that of dry-rolled corn in beef finishing diets, and the feeding value is dependant upon the level of inclusion........................ pg 48

Similar studies are available for hogs and pultry


30 posted on 02/13/2011 4:30:19 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: tennmountainman
Grassley needs to go, go, go.

The three words that RINO Chuck Grassley fears most:

DRILL BABY DRILL!


31 posted on 02/13/2011 4:30:37 PM PST by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: mewykwistmas

Use the subsidies to drill for more oil and do away w/that Carter era boondoggle.

Pray for America


32 posted on 02/13/2011 4:31:09 PM PST by bray (Vote Palin to make heads explode on both sides of the aisle.)
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To: mewykwistmas
For those who don't like adulterated gasoline, look up pure-gas.org. I can't vouch for their accuracy.

I should point out that, apart from reduced range and compatibility problems with some motors, there is nothing inherently wrong with ethanol as a motor fuel, except for the fact that you have to burn a lot of petroleum to produce it and it's not very sensible economically without government subsidies. But then, we subsidize welfare mothers to have more babies, so I don't see what anyone is complaining about.

Anyway, if you don't like paying your hard-earned tax dollars to multi-billion dollar companies like Archer Daniels Midland, then you're just selfish and narrow minded. Get over it.

33 posted on 02/13/2011 4:31:53 PM PST by Batrachian (9/11 confirmed everything I already knew about Islam. Not that it needed much confirming.)
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To: mewykwistmas

ethanol is just another indirect subsidy that actually ends up in the laps of the USA Consumer.......

They been coddled to the tune of 15% more disposable income for decades......food fuel and clothing well under world mkts levels.......they are now like a welfare queen expecting it to continue.

Now they are like global warmers...getting a story from Competing mkts for corn and sucking it all in

Ethanol maybe adds a 1.00 to the price of corn-—and that means maybe 3 cents to a box of corn flakes and 5 cents to a pound of meat....

They really just want the American farmer to continue to “give” them corn at 25% of 1973 price forever.....and yet they expect their wages to ever spiral upwards.


34 posted on 02/13/2011 4:33:05 PM PST by sbark
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To: Balding_Eagle

“It shows that in 2008 3 billion of our 13 billion bushel production was used for ethanol, about 25%.”

We’re in 2011 now so the 40% seems right, given the farmer’s flight to free government cheese

“In addition, a different large scale study shows that more than 1/2 of that 25% was ‘reused’ as animal feed:”

And that’s just as good? I doubt it


35 posted on 02/13/2011 4:33:36 PM PST by mewykwistmas ("If the Egyptians are hungry, let them eat ethanol")
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To: mewykwistmas

Another RINO in the making?


36 posted on 02/13/2011 4:34:34 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: cripplecreek
If ethanol is so damned great, why aren’t the petroleum companies taking up farming on a massive scale?

Anyone who has farmed, and observed ture corprate farming, the kind you are referencing, understands why.

Farming is a mixture of science and art, with art being the key factor, and corporate art isn't pretty or profitable.

37 posted on 02/13/2011 4:34:34 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: troy McClure

Grassley is a whore.


38 posted on 02/13/2011 4:35:02 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: mewykwistmas

39 posted on 02/13/2011 4:38:36 PM PST by flat
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To: mewykwistmas

Ethanol should be metabolized, not burned.


40 posted on 02/13/2011 4:43:45 PM PST by Paladin2 (Free Parking is what made America Great!)
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