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A Disillusioned 99'er Shares His Disappointment With The American Dream, Welcomes Death (Suicide)
Zero Hedge ^ | 2-14-2011 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 02/14/2011 9:58:03 PM PST by Frantzie

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To: Frantzie

This is very sad. He said he had no friends and no family and shelters won’t take single men.

I would guess that was depression and discouragement talking about the disconnect from friends. There was no reason for him to starve given all the soup kitchens and food pantries around. It was not America who abandoned him and named him worthless. The poor guy abandoned himself before he murdered himself. He named himself worthless because he had no money and no self sufficiency.

I wish someone could have helped him. God Bless him.


21 posted on 02/14/2011 11:33:47 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Mortrey

I thought the headline referred to a kids born in 1999, or maybe 1990 - 1999. They’ll look back on 2011 as the “good ol’ days.”


22 posted on 02/15/2011 12:15:09 AM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: SaraJohnson

It’s really sad how isolated he was.

He talked about God and Jesus but he deprived himself of a church home and pastoral care where he might have found help and relief from his soulful suffering.

I can only imagine that as he was taking his life in the realization that this is a cruel and fallen world, he rejected church because of worldly lies about their nature.


23 posted on 02/15/2011 1:22:31 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Frantzie

For all of the people who feel that Americans should have been more careful, it is just not possible for the average American to buy a house for cash. Many people spent their money carefully enough, but basically any use of credit, when combined with this employment situation (especially for people with larger commitments, including children), has created a scenario where losing a job is the end of the world as you know it (for several years at least). We’re not here all that long in the larger scheme of things, and the older you are the more clearly you see this. Mistakes were made, usually by people trying to replace stagnant wages with credit card debt to maintain a standard of living corporate America had traded away (with the cooperation of politicians); this situation has been developing for decades. The complicity of banks in over-valuing homes, then seeking bailouts when the buyers went into foreclosure, shouldn’t be ignored. There is wrong on all sides here.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 2:38:41 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Frantzie

I have been hearing more and more 60 year olds using phrases like “they pulled the rug from under us after we worked all our lives.”

I’m a lot younger than this guy, and was fortunate enough to finish school when Bush I was beaten due in part to a horrible job market. I’ve never assumed anything in terms of work, but people older than me have every right to feel let down. People in their 50s and over, who did everything right, have been shut out of the workforce because they demanded more than a bowl of noodles for their skills. Jobs requiring those skills were sent to Asia, and replaced by jobs that only a 20 year old stoner living in his parents’ basement could survive on. Elections have consequences, and so do economic policies - ask the former presidents of Tunisia and Egypt. Hopefully the perpetrators of the destruction of our country & way of life don’t get off so easy.


25 posted on 02/15/2011 2:45:52 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: I see my hands; Whiney McPityMe

LOL! I remember old Whiney. Didn't he opus out a few years ago?

26 posted on 02/15/2011 3:44:36 AM PST by TheOldLady ("20 Years Ago Desert Storm began...where were you...?" "I believe I was hitting it." - Lazamataz)
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To: Frantzie

Did he have PIERCED EARS??? Did he have TATTOOS??? Was he FLAMING??? Was he a COMPLAINER??? If ANY of these were apparent, then that answers the question as to why he couldn’t get a job!


27 posted on 02/15/2011 4:08:04 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SVTCobra03
A 60-year-old man with 35 years in management should be debt-free with significant investments in his 401(k), Roth IRA and several rental properties that were paid with cash.

It's nice when all planning goes smoothly. But sometimes, there are bumps in the road, such as the way I had to start over after getting divorced from a man who had run up huge debts without saying anything to me. (I saw they were paid before I left.)

Well, that was 10 years lost. I went on, worked, got laid off a few times, saved as much as I could whenever I could, lived frugally even when everybody else was acquiring cars and McMansions.

So here I am at 60, house paid off, no debts, --and no job. Nobody wants 60 year olds. It doesn't matter how good your recommendations are. It doesn't matter how stainless your past is (one parking ticket). Employers don't want you, and I have searched my brain for something legal I could do on my own. My knees are shot, which limits what I can do physically. Oh, and I have no health insurance.

Be careful about being smug and confident that YOU will never be in a bad place, because one day, you, too, will be 60.
28 posted on 02/15/2011 4:08:20 AM PST by Nepeta
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To: Frantzie
Elections have consequences. Supporting Obama with your TV viewership has consequences too.

If you honestly believe that suddenly started in January 2009 then you're kidding yourself.

29 posted on 02/15/2011 4:10:37 AM PST by K-Stater
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To: kearnyirish2
STOP COMPLAINING and BLAMING!!! You sound like a liberal.....and that's not good.

No one said he should have paid CASH for his house....they said he was 60 and SHOULD have had his Mortgage PAID OFF!!

You can't retire still owning house payments.

30 posted on 02/15/2011 4:13:16 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Frantzie

Sounds made up.


31 posted on 02/15/2011 6:18:26 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Lazlo in PA; Frantzie

“zerohedge” is a blog, not news. This should be in Bloggers.

Frantzie is pimping for it by pasting a teaser, admittedly not a very good teaser.

Maybe zerohedge can use their blog hits to employ folks. They will get lots of help from certain posters.


32 posted on 02/15/2011 6:20:12 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Nepeta

Which is the truth.

Another is that the only way an employer will be willing to hire older folks is if the health care is paid for by someone else. That is why so many companies want the public option.

Other wise the costs are just to great.


33 posted on 02/15/2011 6:23:45 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SaraJohnson
"I would guess that was depression and discouragement talking about the disconnect from friends."

Keep in mind that gays tend to be very superficial and obsessed with physical attractiveness. The dynamic is this: once you are over the hill, no one values you or wants to have sex with you. Older gay men are mocked and belittled by the younger, hipper, more attractive gay men. I saw this played out over and over when i lived in S.F.

I think this dynamic is at play here. After all, what gay man wants old, flabby-sphintered friends?

34 posted on 02/15/2011 6:37:40 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Nepeta

You are the first voice of reason on this site. I’m 58 and in the same boat as you are. The unemployment puts food on table of my family while I search desperately for work. No one wants on old bald guy with so many aches and pains that physical labor is difficult.

Suicide? Believe me when I think that my life insurance maybe the only way to provide for my family.

It is very easy for posters to be holier than thou. There is a whole new viewpoint when it is yourself that is in this situation.

Investments? A forty year old family owned business crumbles and then tell me about investments. Lawyers got really fat before it was over. I got a good job after the business failed, but due to mismanagement at the new job, eight out of thirteen employees were layed off.

Don’t bother to respond to this message. I use to post here many years ago and have lurked her for years, but this is my limit of insanity. I have better things to do, like skipping my morning dose of FR and getting on with the job search.


35 posted on 02/15/2011 6:47:24 AM PST by DeSoto
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To: Nepeta

“Be careful about being smug and confident that YOU will never be in a bad place, because one day, you, too, will be 60.”

Actually I am 63 and retired last year.


36 posted on 02/15/2011 8:03:12 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Frantzie

If never had any welfare he wouldn’t have been in this situtation. Hand-outs never work and should be declared the source of the deep dark depression that is strangling these people.

Unemployment for 2 years is the ultimate assisted suicide and the ultimate late-term abortion...hell this is a Progressive’s dream.


37 posted on 02/15/2011 8:07:24 AM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: shibumi; Frantzie; 50mm; Scooter
"Actually "Mark" reached terminal disillusionment after finding only ridicule from the posters on his favorite internet forums and the denizens of the local tavern as he tried to explain his support for Ron Paul and expound on his "911 Truther" theories."

Hey, that sounds like this guy...


38 posted on 02/15/2011 8:20:01 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: Frantzie; Scooter; Weird Tolkienish Figure; Markos33; shibumi
A homosexual like "Markie" should have tried looking for friends at True Blown Off And Rejected Freeper.com.There are lots of homosexuals and homosexual enablers there.

I pinged you, Scooter, because some idiot/homosexual is badmouthing you at that disgusting site.

39 posted on 02/15/2011 12:58:37 PM PST by 50mm ( I don't use drugs, my dreams are frightening enough.)
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To: Ann Archy

Explaining is not complaining; your response is why Obama is our president, and may still be in 2 years. Who retires at 60 (and therefore automatically should have title to his home) - a teacher?

I live in a state where you can’t retire & keep your home; property taxes of $10K+ annually will do that to you. Here in NJ, they’ll freeze your taxes when you retire (at the $10K+ - what a bargain!). Almost a thousand dollars per month in property taxes - that is a rent payment!

Instead, many people are just giving up the homes per their mortgage agreements with the banks - the properties that were the collateral for the loans are being voluntarily returned to the lenders, because nobody will ever want them and the property tax burden makes them untenable for families earning less than $100K (and most of those jobs have left this area). Many people have criticized the borrowers for doing this, but this is the legal arrangement the lenders entered into with them; the borrower is simply exercising their option to turn over the collateral to the bank rather than continue payments.

I don’t often get called “liberal” - I make Pat Buchanan and Archie Bunker look like girlie men.


40 posted on 02/15/2011 6:53:47 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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