On the House Vote to Defund the IPCC ( From a real Climate Scientist ...Dr. Roy Spencer)

I am glad you believe in CORRECTIONS, because I believe you have made a number of mistakes. You repeatedly refer to climate change deniers (like the IPCC, Hansen, Al Gore, etc). I think what you mean is climate change supporters, or climate change believers, or something similar.

Try re-reading the first two sentences of the post. I think if you do you will see that it was the original authors approach to pointing out that that term could just as well be used to describe AGW priests - they are denying that climate variations can be natural. I could be wrong - but it fits well with the rest of the post - words and proclamations don't make good science - real science does and there ain't much in the AGW crowd.

I am glad you believe in CORRECTIONS, because I believe you have made a number of mistakes. You repeatedly refer to climate change deniers (like the IPCC, Hansen, Al Gore, etc).

Re-read the good doctor's original message above. In your apparent blinding prejudices, you've didn't understand it.

It is these climate change deniers (Hansen, Gore, Briffa, Mann, etc.) who deny that the earth's climate has warmed naturally by 2.0 degrees since 1650.

It is the climate change deniers who are re-editing original data to eliminate the natural rise in temperatures between 1820 and 1880, the natural decline in temperatures between 1880 and 1910, and the natural rise in temperatures between 1910 and 1940, and the natural decline in temperatures between 1940 and 1970.

It is these climate change deniers who deny the evidence in over 900 peer-reviewed documents that show the 12 - 27% greater growth in every plant and plankton worldwide due to the recent increase in CO2 that is feeding our population, our animals, and our natural associates.

it is these climate change deniers who advocate and earnestly DESIRE the early death of millions, and the continued subsidence in poverty, illness, and starvation due to bad food, bad water, excess sewage and bad transportation because they deliberately intend to deny other humans the right to adequate food, fuel, fodder, and feed.

Yes, Al Gore intends to deny health to millions of innocents so he can make his millions in his luxury mansions. Hansen and Mann and the IPCC intend to deny basic food, clothing and shelter to billions because they want the continued luxuries of international travel and the glories of appearing in TV and in international conferences at the taxpayer expense.

“...my question is, why are not ALL of these plausible theories being taught in the public schools?????”

A very good question.

One answer, really.

Critical thinking will NOT be allowed. That’s why.

The genesis of the public school movement was preciously to prevent critical thinking and create a docile and obedient worker class. I say they succeeded, here, in America, very well.

“.....and the glories of appearing in TV and in international conferences at the taxpayer expense.”

Don’t forget the vast amounts of money that are made in the process of seeking power. Blending oneself with like minded seekers of power, thus wealth, and notoriety.

The “In Crowd” is a self serving crowd, and leads to self serving ends.

I don’t have time to check them now, but I hope your other assertions are far more accurate. Perhaps some fact checking is in order.

And this from someone who claims to be literate.

There is no warming. None. It is all gone. Atmospheric temperatures globally are below the running modern norm. At 14,000 feet and at 6 feet. We have a major negative global atmospheric temperature anomaly coming in 7-8 days. A -0.63 C anomaly globally. And a more then -30 C anomaly predicted by the computer models coming to the US. On the link below go to the 168 hour mark. Look at the US Northwest. Warming cannot cause -30 C temperature anomalies. Only cooling can.

OK, my bad. I was being nagged to get off the computer and out the door, so only speed read rather than carefully read. I noted that Gore, Hansen, IPCC were being called global climate change deniers which is contrary to just about anything I have ready elsewhere including here at FR. What I see now is that Dr. Spencer was playing with language to indicate that these people were denying important things especially as concerns AGW. In general usage deniers are identified as those who disagree with Gore, Hansen, IPCC, et. al. Having recently read a book on Paleoclimatology, I agree that the science of climate prediction and even identifying past climate is still in its early stages of development.

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