KSP: Mom High On Bath Salts Drops Boy On Interstate

WLWT ^ | March 1, 2011 | WLWT

[TSgt]

CALVERT CITY, Ky. -- A mother charged with endangering her children said she was wandering along a western Kentucky interstate with them after snorting bath salts.

Kentucky State Police said they found a 2-year-old boy with a head injury lying on the inside edge of Interstate 24 in Marshall County and his mother carrying a 5-year-old child in the median.

Police said 29-year-old Cynthia Palmer told officers she had been snorting bath salts and began to hallucinate Monday night while driving from the Tennessee side of Fort Campbell.

Officers said she stopped and attempted to carry both children across the roadway, but dropped the younger child and left him.

The 2-year-old was taken to a hospital and the older child was taken into custody by Tennessee Social Services.

Palmer was charged with assault, wanton endangerment and public intoxication.

Court records do not list an attorney for her.

A Kentucky House committee approved a bill last month that would ban the sale or possession of the synthetic drug marketed as bath salts and sold under such brand names as “Ivory Wave” or “Purple Wave.”

Committee members were told that the substance can cause delusional behavior, confusion, agitation and paranoia.

[TSgt]

WTH?

[ZULU]

Uh Oh.

Now we have to sign in and register to buy bath salts along with Sudafed - just like we would if were bying bullets or guns!!

[Nervous Tick]

My heart goes out to these poor children.

There is a cohort of (barely) human beings that simply should *not* be permitted to breed.

[ConjunctionJunction]

No, we’ll need a doctor’s prescription.

[Mears]

Good Lord,is there anything safe left?

Mother of the Year she isn’t.

[rarestia]

I’m really at a loss as to understanding this new bath salts thing. Are they legitimately bath salts? Can you actually use them in a bath, or are they surreptitiously designer drugs packaged as bath salts?

Florida apparently had an epidemic big enough to require our new AG to declare them illegal, but I’m left trying to understand: are they actually legal products being misused or illegal products being marketed as legal? Either way, why aren’t we investigating the manufacturers?

[ZULU]

Progress is wonderful!!!

[dmz]

Heard a story about this recently, and for the record, they are not actually bath salts, they are boutique drugs, available at convenience stores and the like.

[rarestia]

Like my fiancee says, “You have to be licensed to drive, but you don’t have to be licensed to have children.”

[TruthConquers]

Apparently, it is called “bath salts” but isn’t.

It is sold at convenience stores, not your regular grocer or Wall Mart.

At least, that is what I have read.

[dmz]

No, they are not really bath salts. Designer drugs developed from legal substances so beyone (initially) the reach of law enforcement.

[Lazlo in PA]

...Cynthia Palmer told officers she had been snorting bath salts and began to hallucinate...

This clears up a mystery I have had for years. My wife locks herself in the bathroom to soak in the tub with bath salts. No wonder she is in a good mood when she gets out.

[TSgt]

They are available online here: http://am-hi-co.com/acatalog/ivory-wave.html

I’m not sure what makes someone think, “hey, why don’t I snort bath salt?”

[Moose4]

These aren’t truly “bath salts,” they’re just packaged as such. The packages are so tiny that they wouldn’t do a thing if dumped into a normal-sized bathtub. My wife makes her own bath salts (*real* ones) using Epsom salts and essential oils, and when she uses them, it takes a few ounces dumped into the tub to make the nice smell in the bathroom. These things, IIRC, are sold in packages of just a few grams...not enough to make your bathwater smell good, but enough to give you a high if sniffed like cocaine.

}:-)4

[rarestia]

I had a chemistry kit when I was a kid and made all sorts of neat glowing chemicals, etc. How does one take the initiative to actually imbibe or otherwise consume a creation to decide if it’s suitable for consumption and then if it gets them high?

What happened to just smoking a joint or stealing a bottle of scotch from mom’s liquor cabinet?

[ColdOne]

So now an attack on another kind of salt? Bath salts?

[GreenAccord]

I’m not sure what makes someone think, “hey, why don’t I snort bath salt?”

Yeah, I've wondered about that kind of thing too. You can go all the way back to when someone said, "you know, that leaf on that plant.... I wonder what it'd be like to light it on fire, and inhale the burning emissions." There's certainly more examples from further back. Then again, I like lobster and who was the first guy who thought, "let's boil that sucker and eat the innards"?

[TSgt]

IVORY WAVE 500mg. BUY ONE ONE GET FREE Price:$36.31

[Moose4]

500 mg, yeah. A half-gram. Or one-fifty-sixth of an ounce. At least the homemade versions of bath salts my wife makes take a good 2-3 ounces, at least, to produce enough scent to be useful.

(And she could make a LOT of the stuff for $36.31, too. More than half a gram!)

I wonder if Ivory soap has sued the people selling this crap in convenience stores? I’m fairly sure they’ve trademarked “Ivory” as a brand name.

}:-)4

[John O]

Committee members were told that the substance can cause delusional behavior, confusion, agitation and paranoia.

To the dopers those effects are collectively known as "fun"

(We live in a very scary world)

[fr_freak]

You can go all the way back to when someone said, "you know, that leaf on that plant.... I wonder what it'd be like to light it on fire, and inhale the burning emissions."

More likely it went something like this:

"Hey its cold out here, let's get a fire started. Those plants over there look burnable. There we go. Say, anyone else hungry as hell?"

[Thrownatbirth]

I’m not sure what makes someone think, “hey, why don’t I snort bath salt?”

Someone who took "Calgon, take me away!" a bit too literally.

[ZULU]

These idiots would snort anything they can get their hands on.

When I was a kid, it was airplane cement and gasoline vapors.

The kid is probably brain damaged from its mom.

I had a High School gym teacher who said pot heads and druggies shouldn’t be incarcerated. They should be dropped off on an island without a boat in a shark infested sea with all the poppy seeds they want. I think he was right.

[familyop]

According to liberal dopers, the war on drugs forced her to do it.

[UCANSEE2]

Yeah, I've wondered about that kind of thing too. You can go all the way back to when someone said, "you know, that leaf on that plant.... I wonder what it'd be like to light it on fire, and inhale the burning emissions." There's certainly more examples from further back. Then again, I like lobster and who was the first guy who thought, "let's boil that sucker and eat the innards"?

Or the first person that said, "I'm gonna eat whatever pops out of that chicken's butt".

[reagan_fanatic]

My Wife was in WalMart yesterday when a man walked in, rushed back to electronics, grabbed a can of compressed air and started huffing it. He went crazy, banging his head against display racks and just going nuts. When he came to, the cop told that he hoped his head hurt and hauled him off to jail.

People are weird.

[TSgt]

According to liberal dopers, the war on drugs forced her to do it.

Oh' yeah, I've already read some of those posts on the news sites. If she had legal access to cocaine or meth this wouldn't have happened! /SAR

[wildbill]

Snorting bath salts?

This takes the old phrase, “Keep your nose clean” to a whole new level.

[healy61]

This is actually synthetic cocaine. The high last several days and is sold by the gram. It tends to have a high rate of psychiatric hospitalizations and suicide attempts.

[ZULU]

Amazing.

[Lurking Libertarian]

I’m really at a loss as to understanding this new bath salts thing. Are they legitimately bath salts? Can you actually use them in a bath, or are they surreptitiously designer drugs packaged as bath salts?

The latter.

[SouthTexas]

With all the real drugs out there...

[antiRepublicrat]

A Kentucky House committee approved a bill last month that would ban the sale or possession of the synthetic drug

Great, now just as many people will get it, but instead of getting it from the store, with the money fueling legitimate business profits, they'll get it from their neighborhood drug dealer and the money will fund gang activity.

[DannyTN]

"Uh Oh. Now we have to sign in and register to buy bath salts along with Sudafed..."

That's only if were lucky. Homeland Security could use this to insist on searching us while we are taking a bath.

[txlurker]

Some funny comments. But this story is very sad. Hope the babies are going to be ok.

[lonevoice]

There is a cohort of (barely) human beings that simply should *not* be permitted to breed.

But then how would they qualify for welfare, food stamps, section 8 housing, free health care, and all the other public assistance available to single mothers? < /sarc>

[antiRepublicrat]

Then again, I like lobster and who was the first guy who thought, "let's boil that sucker and eat the innards"?

Long, long ago, you ate whetever moved. If you didn't die from it, you ate it again. or you starved. Lobster used to be considered the disgusting creepy-crawly that only poor people and servants ate.

[Nervous Tick]

>> But then how would they qualify for welfare, food stamps, &etc

Maybe we could tie off their genitalia and send ‘em on an all expenses paid trip to colonize an asteroid or something.

I’d be happy to kick some in on the airfare.

[trisham]

More here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/22/AR2011012203854.html

[JackOfVA]

Committee members were told that the substance can cause delusional behavior, confusion, agitation and paranoia.

To the dopers those effects are collectively known as "fun"

Also sounds like the behavior of the typical Obama voter.

Jack

[trisham]

I should have said “more about bath salts here”.

[GreenAccord]

Lobster used to be considered the disgusting creepy-crawly that only poor people and servants ate.

Until they started to intentionally melt butter.

[dangerdoc]

They didn’t start randomly snorting bath salts. This was purposely created as a synthetic drug and has no bath salt content at all.

[Palladin]

This is an epidemic in the Rust Belt states.

These “bath salts” are comparable to meth.

[freedomlover]

How about the guy (it HAD to be a GUY) who thought “Y’know, I think I’m gonna lick that there toad!”

[Palladin]

We have stories like this in our paper every week:

Police: Bath salts user thought river creatures stalked him

February 21, 2011 - By PATRICK DONLIN -

Disheveled, disturbed and apparently under the influence, a local man had repeated run-ins with South Williamsport Borough police the past few months.

Borough Detective Sgt. James Taylor said the first time the 29-year-old man encountered police, he claimed to be using synthetic marijuana.

“He said it was K2 or spice from the head shops,” Taylor said, using drug culture slang for types of chemically laden herbs smoked to get high.

The man said in later encounters he had snorted Blue Silk, which officers investigated online to discover is a type of bath salt.

Taylor said police had nine encounters with the man from Nov. 18 to Dec. 5.

Sometimes, he allegedly called 911 emergency dispatchers with whom he reportedly had rambling conversations.

On other occasions, Taylor said he was known to disturb area residents by knocking on their doors.

On Nov. 18, the man believed he was being chased by other people - and other creatures.

The clothes he was wearing were wet, and he was partially disrobed when found near a borough home after police were summoned by residents who said he had pounded his fists on their door requesting entry.

Taylor doesn’t know for sure if the suspect jumped in the nearby West Branch of the Susquehanna River, but he was told so.

“He told me he was being chased by two other people who were trying to lasso him with a rope in the woods,” Taylor said. “From there, he said he swam in the river to get away, where he claimed to be chased by snakes and crocodiles.”

[TSgt]

How about the first person to Google, “Helen Thomas Nude”

I mean why?

[Carpe Cerevisi]

I guess Calgon really can take you away!

[ResponseAbility]

Just another unintended consequence of the war on drugs. Who knows what evil genie has been let out of the bottle now. They will make it illegal, then fight its manufacture. Then we will go another round as someone else finds a way around the laws against this substance. Same way meth was created.

[TSgt]

Yeah because if she had access to legal cocaine this would NEVER have happened!

You are a damn fool.