Posted on 03/06/2011 11:14:48 AM PST by RobinMasters
Hehehehe.
I mean every politician in DC and everyone in agencies that are charged with protecting and defending this nation. Obviously, no one is willing to expose the lies, deceit, and corruption that has permeated every level of government.
>>>And how long did it take this nation to forget? Only a generation or two? Maybe just ONE generation? Reagan was right.<<<
Check out how long it took Periclean Athens to implode.
God help us.
As long as I can remember...and that's quite a long time...there just wasn't a question...it was a given that anyone running for the Presidency, could produce their birth certificate as proof they were eligible to hold that high office.....now here comes this guy from no where who seems to go to great lengths in order to keep his buried....and the so and so is allowed to get by with it. ....arrogance, audacity,a superiority complex...or worse.
Are you Jamese’s alter ego? He too mocks every effort to force Obama’s eligibility hand. You’re also the only Freeper I’ve ever seen compliment the Site Pest. Hmm.
Even when brought to their attention, as now, the political leaders side step the issue; in this case, with a late bill that has no teeth. None of the states I am aware of distingusish in their proposed bills between the Constitution's different citizenship requirements for Senators, Representatives and Vice President and President.
We can predict with some certainty the outcome where a candidate for president or vp presents a BC which indicates one or both non-citizen parents were born in Somalia or Saudi Arabi - or pick your favorite country.
Even if Barry had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.
Excerpt : “When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, “Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority.” The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US.” Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents’ citizenship. ........ Full article at link ...... http://larrymwalkerjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/true-definition-of-natural-born-citizen.html .... As to the actions,or lack of same, of Roberts, or the rest of SCOTUS, I have no clue.
But, since I have developed such great respect for your earnest battle against the usurper, as of this instant, I hereby do swear, affirm and otherwise attest that I will never mention the words "Ineligibility," or "Hawaii," again on this site, until cleared by the SCOTUS, whose latest conference report I await with bated breath.
Here is my credo on these matters:
I do not believe that the present recumbent at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue was eligible to have run for POTUS because his father was not a citizen. That we can prove. I do not believe he was born in Hawaii, and I cannot prove that. OTOH, neither can he. Or you. So what and now what? What does a red-blooded patriot do with these feelings, exactly? Talk endlessly to others who feel this way? Fat load of good that's done, eh wot? You go for Public Opinion. OK. But half the public still think this guy is a god.
I believe he is the sitting but illegitimate President of the US. Just as several anti-popes were still popes. They were replaced and life went on. Since there are no mobs to throw the anti-POTUS into the local version of the Tiber, he can only be removed by Congress by Impeachment and Conviction.
It would be helpful if the SCOTUS got around to opining on this sometime before POTUS appoints Lula and Hugo Chavez to the bench. After all, what do we pay these black-robed bum-kissers for? And I also believe we got the SOB on the fake name thing. Hope it works. Hope? Ironic, ain't it.
Back to my oath. Honest, if Hemenway strikes out in conference, we are back to square 1. Jamese777, whose only fault is perhaps unintentional schadenfreude, somewhat rudely points out that our POV has nowhere to take itself and we have no powerful friends.
Talk to you after the SCOTUS Conference report. (1)Best news: They will hear the case. (2)Better news: They will remand and ask for discovery (3)Good News: They will ask for a refined petition, throwing out several parts (4)Bad News: They throw it all out with comment (5) Disaster: The reject it without comment. We have three pals on the court. Perhaps with Kagan the Kommie and her Latina pal recused, that will be enough. Perhaps they could both vacation on Lesbos while we settle this.
Stay cheerful. If cornering rats was easy, there would be no market for cat food. Wednesday maybe?
You snark like the SP too, but overall you’re convincing. I would just ask you not to ping us both to the same post in the future. The SP has been so dishonest on FR, I try to have as little to do with him as possible. I can deal with honest people with whom I disagree, and do so every day. I can’t deal with fundamentally dishonest people, however. So do me that one big favor, and perhaps we’ll go far. ;)
I’m not counting on a plug nickle from the Supremes. They’ve given us the finger too many times already.
I read and post on eligibility threads to inform and to stay informed. Offline I share what I’ve learned. Making progress one convert at a time. If we all do similarly, the trend will continue: i.e.: more people will come to doubt Obama by the day. That, imho, is a winning strategy in the long run, fwiw.
jamese777 is actually my long lost son by Jane Fonda. I had given him up for adoption, but then I found out about the
Democrat Party and the ease of collecting AFDC welfare and getting a Section 8 apartment merely for voting 17 or 28 times in the same day and signing over my absentee ballot (s). I would vote more often, but that’s not bad for a citizen of Paraguay, in this country illegally. That was right before ACORN got me on food stamps in exchange for picketing the Wisconsin State House. Jamese and I were re-united on the Okrah Winfrey show and we both receive instructions from Bill Ayers on our secret “Barak” Decoder Rings.
But, since I have developed such great respect for your earnest battle against the usurper, as of this instant, I hereby do swear, affirm and otherwise attest that I will never mention the words “Ineligibility,” or “Hawaii,” again on this site, until cleared by the SCOTUS, whose latest conference report I await with bated breath.
Here is my credo on these matters:
I do not believe that the present recumbent at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue was eligible to have run for POTUS because his father was not a citizen. That we can prove. I do not believe he was born in Hawaii, and I cannot prove that. OTOH, neither can he. Or you. So what and now what? What does a red-blooded patriot do with these feelings, exactly? Talk endlessly to others who feel this way? Fat load of good that’s done, eh wot? You go for Public Opinion. OK. But half the public still think this guy is a god.
I believe he is the sitting but illegitimate President of the US. Just as several anti-popes were still popes. They were replaced and life went on. Since there are no mobs to throw the anti-POTUS into the local version of the Tiber, he can only be removed by Congress by Impeachment and Conviction.
It would be helpful if the SCOTUS got around to opining on this sometime before POTUS appoints Lula and Hugo Chavez to the bench. After all, what do we pay these black-robed bum-kissers for? And I also believe we got the SOB on the fake name thing. Hope it works. Hope? Ironic, ain’t it.
Back to my oath. Honest, if Hemenway strikes out in conference, we are back to square 1. Jamese777, whose only fault is perhaps unintentional schadenfreude, somewhat rudely points out that our POV has nowhere to take itself and we have no powerful friends.
Talk to you after the SCOTUS Conference report. (1)Best news: They will hear the case. (2)Better news: They will remand and ask for discovery (3)Good News: They will ask for a refined petition, throwing out several parts (4)Bad News: They throw it all out with comment (5) Disaster: The reject it without comment. We have three pals on the court. Perhaps with Kagan the Kommie and her Latina pal recused, that will be enough. Perhaps they could both vacation on Lesbos while we settle this.
Stay cheerful. If cornering rats was easy, there would be no market for cat food. Wednesday maybe?
For the 9,000th time, those who believe that Barack Hussein Obama II is ineligible to be President of the United States need just ONE prosecuting attorney, anywhere in America to take up the cause and conduct a Grand Jury investigation. Additionally, if just one Republican Committee Chairperson in the House of Representatives can be convinced to launch an investigation into the requirements to be Natural Born under Article II, Section 1, the Obama is ineligible movement could move to having serious impact on the national political dialog.
Both Grand Juries and Congressional Committees have subpoena power.
Excerpt : “When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, “Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority.” The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US.” Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents’ citizenship. ........ Full article at link ...... http://larrymwalkerjr.blogspot.com/2009/03/true-definition-of-natural-born-citizen.html .... As to the actions,or lack of same, of Roberts, or the rest of SCOTUS, I have no clue.
A bit deceiving on the title. After reading the article I went and looked at the actual poll.
I would rather say that only 28% believe that he was born in America. That is kind of staggering for any demographic.
Meanwhile the MSM denies this is even a problem and refuse to call Obama out on it. Then they wonder why they are not trusted as a news source.
>The Iowa bill as written would allow Obama to qualify with a short form Certification Of Live Birth issued by the Hawaii Department of Health which is now run by Democrats.<
I read what you posted, but I don;t think your right. They say
1. A candidate for president or vice president shall attach
to and file with the affidavit of candidacy a copy of the
candidate’s birth certificate certified by the appropriate
official in the candidate’s state of birth.
Obama can’t attach a “Certificate of Live Birth” that is not a birth certificate. Hawaii does issue full Birth Certificates
see
http://theobamafile.com/_images/NordykeBirthCertificate.jpg
I read what you posted, but I don;t think your right. They say
1. A candidate for president or vice president shall attach
to and file with the affidavit of candidacy a copy of the
candidate’s birth certificate certified by the appropriate
official in the candidate’s state of birth.
Obama can’t attach a “Certificate of Live Birth” that is not a birth certificate. Hawaii does issue full Birth Certificates
see
http://theobamafile.com/_images/NordykeBirthCertificate.jpg
>Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”<
i am decidedly not convinced that any piece of paper without a doctors name attesting to a birth is considered valid.
All federal agencies? I don’t know of any federal law enforcement agencies that would accept that COLB Obama gave as anything but toilet paper.
They can say whatever they want. It does not mean that another state has to accept it. That COLB would NEVER be considered as any type of prima facia evidence for any security background check in the government or by any police agency in the United States.
i am decidedly not convinced that any piece of paper without a doctors name attesting to a birth is considered valid.
All federal agencies? I don’t know of any federal law enforcement agencies that would accept that COLB Obama gave as anything but toilet paper.
They can say whatever they want. It does not mean that another state has to accept it. That COLB would NEVER be considered as any type of prima facia evidence for any security background check in the government or by any police agency in the United States.
Barack Obama’s Hawaii COLB was obviously good enough for the security clearances that allow him to have control of the “nuclear football” with the launch codes to every nuclear missile in the US arsenal.
I doubt that the Bush administration’s FBI, CIA and NSA would allow anyone without the proper vetting and clearances by all sixteen of America’s intelligence agencies to control nuclear weapons without an acceptable birth certificate.
>Barack Obama’s Hawaii COLB was obviously good enough for the security clearances that allow him to have control of Barack Obama’s Hawaii COLB was obviously good enough for the security clearances that allow him to have control of the “nuclear football” with the launch codes to every nuclear missile in the US arsenal.
I doubt that the Bush administration’s FBI, CIA and NSA would allow anyone without the proper vetting and clearances by all sixteen of America’s intelligence agencies to control nuclear weapons without an acceptable birth certificate.<
Ummm .. James get with the program. There is no “security clearance” for the POTUS. No one does a back ground investigation on him. NO ONE.
The administration preceding this current one has absolutely NO control over who gets elected, nor can they order any agency to interfere. They would be accused of partisan politics in a heartbeat. Since no one has authorization to investigate the POTUS for a background investigation, they would be criminally liable for doing so.
NO one from the FBI or secret service, NSA ever was able to look into Obama’s background top run a check on him.. That is just a fact. If you think otherwise, your just kidding yourself. But your not kidding me. I know.
Before you retort with more nonsense telling me I am wrong. You go look high and far, to the top of Kilimanjaro for all I care. But You find just one agency who can legally do it.
Here’s a hint:
The only people who can order an investigation into the President or his background is the Senate or Congress. And they failed to do so.
The President does not obtain a security clearance. The President issues security clearances.
The President is, by definition, automatically cleared for access to any information or location under the control of the Executive Branch of the U.S. Government (which includes the DoD and all of the intelligence agencies). Those who physically control access to that information or location all work for the President. He has the authority to order them to stand aside and allow him access.
Further, anyone who the President says is cleared to see something is so cleared. This is because the individuals who determine clearances work for the President and he has the authority to tell them how to do their job.
The SP is lying again. You know what to do.
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