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Japan radiation leaking "directly" into air: IAEA
Reuters ^ | 3/15/2011 | Fredrik Dahl

Posted on 03/15/2011 12:56:34 PM PDT by Sprite518

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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Thanks.
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo


81 posted on 03/15/2011 1:52:43 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Sprite518
I don’t know who to believe?

Well, I'm not going to convince you then. But for cryin' out loud, why would any Freeper trust Reuters???

Best summary of information I've seen yet (I can't post a pdf file):

http://www.jaif.or.jp/english/index.php

Click on the title:
2011-03-15 Reactor Status Update 4 - NPPs in Fukushima as of 19:00 March 15 (Estimated by J・・・ (59KB)

82 posted on 03/15/2011 1:54:19 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Sprite518

I think we all understand that nuclear power can be dangerous. And I think we understand the real danger the situation poses to the people in the immediate vicinity of the plant (most of whom have already been evacuated).

What’s maddening is that we’re now entirely focused on what might happen, instead of what already has happened... which has been exponentially worse than the worst-case scenario from even the most ardent anti-nuke doomsayers.

Add to that that fact that Americans are going out of their way to create scenarios where this will impact them directly. People on the west coast are scrambling to buy potassium iodide. We’ve gone way beyond the point of genuine concern and crossed the line into hair-on-fire absurdity. The Japanese are handling their real crisis with more grace, dignity and fortitude than Americans are handling the one they’ve imagined for themselves.


83 posted on 03/15/2011 1:55:05 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

I sure wish these talking heads would do a little research! Even on FandF this morning, they were practically hysterical!


84 posted on 03/15/2011 1:55:28 PM PDT by jackv (The darkness hates the light!)
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To: Tolsti2

” You’re both wrong though. The fallout itself travels and emits. “

Fine - show me a link to any - ANY - report that claims that there’s been any significant production and release of particulates....

Otherwise, you, like the reactors, are blowing sunshine and, perhaps, a bit of steam....


85 posted on 03/15/2011 1:55:47 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: jackv

Once they got to Lady Gaga’s Japanese relief bracelets, that was it. I had to turn the TV off for the day.


86 posted on 03/15/2011 1:57:17 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Don’t move the goalpost. All I said was that you can’t compare fallout to some single radiation source.

It does appear to be leaking and moving around, that’s why they are evacuating now. Duh.

I just today really learned about normalcy bias and wow it’s a powerful force.


87 posted on 03/15/2011 1:57:42 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: fso301
Actually the 400 microsievert level was outside the reactor 3 building. The gate was showing only 3 microsieverts. However if they get another fire in the spent fuel rod storage tanks that put particulate in the air you probably wouldn't want to be that close to the plant. But hey if you want to move within the 20km evacuation zone around the plant be my guest.
88 posted on 03/15/2011 1:58:24 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Thanks for linking. I had it open on another computer.

It’s actually gone down a click since this morning.


89 posted on 03/15/2011 2:00:57 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: brent13a

Where have you been getting your research?

Once the rods are exposed and no longer cooled by a continuous flow of water/coolant, they begin to superheat, melting any containment vessel.

Once this happens, major contamination begins to creep from the exposed reactor/fuel into the environment.

This is serious.


90 posted on 03/15/2011 2:01:35 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Sprite518

We can all agree that Hiroshima & Nagasaki were real nuclear, (nucular for some of you), disasters. Check them out today
Check out these photos
http://www.funonthenet.in/articles/hiroshima-nagasaki-today.html


91 posted on 03/15/2011 2:03:17 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Uncle Ike

I have a lifelong interest in science and have visited Cook Nuclear plant here in Michigan several times. I even took a nerd babe for a tour there for a first date.


92 posted on 03/15/2011 2:03:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: servantboy777
Oh, by the way, I am not a newckler scientist but I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

All kidding aside, one of my relatives worked for years at various nuke plants.

This is very serious.

93 posted on 03/15/2011 2:03:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Tolsti2; cripplecreek

Don’t hide the goalpost...

You made a flat statement that Cripplecreek and I were ‘wrong’ based on ‘fallout’ that hasn’t, as far as I’ve been able to discern, been demonstrated to be in evidence at this time....

As to ‘moving around’ - the sunlight comes from the sun and shines on you, and it also, equally, shines on me, even though we are, I presume, some distance apart — is the sunlight ‘moving around’, or is it just doing what Radiation - any kind of radiation - does, ie. “radiate”??

“Duh”, indeed.....


94 posted on 03/15/2011 2:06:04 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: cripplecreek

That might be the coolest first-date I’ve ever heard of.


95 posted on 03/15/2011 2:06:13 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Uncle Ike

I can’t follow you. You clearly don’t understand how this stuff works at all, good luck to you.

Trying to compare to fallout particles to the sun is so absurd I can’t even start to explain.

I guess you could say it’s like billions of tiny suns that spread around and emit the radiation.


96 posted on 03/15/2011 2:08:38 PM PDT by Tolsti2
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To: Sprite518

How much worse can it be than the nuclear testing that we and the Soviets did in the 50’s and 60’s? Japan survived Hiroshima and Nagasaki and they and we will survive this. Even still I pray that their suffering is shortened, they’ve been dealt a couple of really horrendous blows.


97 posted on 03/15/2011 2:10:22 PM PDT by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: Tolsti2

” Trying to compare to fallout particles to the sun is so absurd I can’t even start to explain “

One last time, and then we’re done —

THERE ARE *NO* FREAKING FALLOUT PARTICLES REPORTED!!!!

Now, go away.....


98 posted on 03/15/2011 2:10:44 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: sam_paine
My earlier post referred to "dozens" of atmospheric tests. The actual number is over 600 atmospheric tests. Each one giving off more radiation than this reactor will.

We're all going to die, this accident won't be the cause.

99 posted on 03/15/2011 2:13:02 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

She liked it.


100 posted on 03/15/2011 2:15:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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