Posted on 03/18/2011 6:27:47 PM PDT by Sprite518
You are giving them too much of the benefit of the doubt. The government is notorious for lying.
When we watch the reactors blow sky high from a distant camera(the reactors are 1000 ft tall) that looked like a target in Iraq getting hit by a bomb. Then I knew right then it was going to be a bad situation.
I laughed when I heard people the government/media say, “Oh that’s nothing to worry about.”
Do you honestly think they are going to tell you the truth???
It’s called the governments are trying not to create panic.
It is now officially on a par with the Three Mile Island accident in Pennsylvania in 1979. Only the explosion at Chernobyl in 1986 has topped the scale.
Nobody died at TMI. This is the problem with the journalist idiots: they think this incident is either nothing or Chernobyl, with no in-between.
Proper information would look something like:
| time (24GMT) | location (gps) | distance from reactor (meters) | reading (mSv) |
| 04:00 | 00'00.000N 00'00.000E | 500 | 2.00 |
OTOH, some of it is very simple: where there is no smoke, there is no fire. There is no possible way that some fuel rods could have burned in the spent fuel pool without lighting up the whole thing. Arne thinks they will burn but the only reference I see to that is an unattributed govt report and for all I know he wrote it. It appears to be more likely that they don't burn. Either that or they do burn but haven't yet burned and every day that they don't is safer than the previous.
Very unofficial and currently offline but check this tomorrow:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geiger-counter-tokyo
“(the reactors are 1000 ft tall)”
If the reactors are 1000 ft tall,how high are the cooling towers?
Do you have a source for that?
For me, the truth was the helos dropping sea water on the reactors. That signaled desperation & the reactors were a total loss. Sea water is very corrosive to electrical systems. Concrete can't be long in coming.
I read somewhere in the past week that at least 1 person has died and 4-5 others ill/injured....from the Reactor site.....sorry I can’t remember where....
The scarier part is that we have been hearing even GOP Media (Fox News, especially) try to downplay the apparent nuke catastrophe happening in Japan
We need nuke power in the US....but it has to be done better than what the Japanese have displayed. And, we cannot have non-Conservative GOP Media try to pooh-pooh and downplay the obvious nuke holocaust that will hit Japan
They had already injected seawater into them early in the week and they were a total loss then. If anything they waited too long to do it. The seawater failsafe option was designed in, not an afterthought. But dropping it from helicopters was desperation like you said, and it also means the other failsafe and failure management systems will fail sooner or are already written off.
“But remember, this plant was built to withstand and 8.x quake, and the quake was 9.0. Nature will override anything man builds.”
Your point is well-taken.
‘Way back some 99 years ago, human technology had progressed to the point where they built a ship that was deemed to be “unsinkable”. In fact, during its voyage, one of the high-ranking officials exclaimed to a passenger-on-board that “God himself could not sink this ship!”
We all know what happened next.
So — in view of that — is not it an amazing leap of faith that we could design a completely “safe” nuclear generating plant?
One that will never fail?
After all, in your very words, “nature will override anything man builds”.
In MY words:
Man will design the completely “safe” nuclear power plant just AFTER he perfects the unsinkable ship (along with the airplane that cannot fall from the sky).
‘Till then, nature rules the day.
Just sayin’....
“We are Americans...we expect the government to lie.”
“I would trust the Japanese gov’t more than our own.”
Isn’t that sick... but you couldn’t be more correct.
So if you were to ever represent the government, we obviously could not depend nor trust yourself to tell us the truth?
I actually already did as a United States Marine.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Governments around the world , including Japan, have become too big and corrupt. After all were they not pushing the global warming B.S. in Kyoto??? The government’s number one job is to protect its citizens and in this instance they failed.
You nailed it on the head. Nice post!
Notice how the story keeps changing it’s unbelievable! It went from there’s NOTHING to worry about to well we have low levels of radiation hitting the West Coast. LOL!
Seems like people are more concerned about if nuclear energy is dangerous or not. Instead of just tell us what is going on, and if you are not sure then tell us that. Don’t keep changing the story. Good grief!
Energy in general can be dangerous. I think it’s foolish to say other wise. Now just because I said that should not be misunderstood as if anti nuclear energy. I’m very pro nuclear energy and will continue to support it. I’m more interested in what is occurring vs. what people or governments hope is occurring.
I concur that one of the primary duties of government is the defense of national authority by their military form foreign interests/governments/intrusion.
My point is that government is not intuitively corrupt. Man indeed is corrupt, but the institution of national governance was established by God Himself at the tower of Babel. Since that time, it is an institution of legitimate authority to be graced upon believer and unbeliever alike, provided they recognize legitimate authority.
Semper Fi Mac.
I know this will fall on deaf ears of the ninnies who lack even the most basic analytical skills, but here goes:
Look at the criteria that go into making up this scale. The reporter LIED when he wrote that Level 5 meant that several deaths would result.
Many criteria and combinations of criteria can produce a Level 5 rating. The melting of a few percent of the fuel rods alone could move the rating to Level 5. Notice the absence of any detail about how the rating is calculated in the article? Aren’t you the least bit curious about how it is compiled? I guess not.
Anyone who takes any media type’s interpretation of info related to science and engineering is even more studpid than the reporter.
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