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Is Trump Working Eligibility Issue on Behalf of Democrats?
self | Uncle Sham

Posted on 03/29/2011 7:55:42 PM PDT by Uncle Sham

In whose interest is it for the usurper to be found out and removed from office in soon enough fashion for Joe Biden to become acting President? What is it that the democrats and liberals who have kept this subject alive lately think so important that they have stirred the pot? I think they realize that its over for their boy wonder and that with his removal, along goes those two Supreme Court appointments. The Republicans seem to have been biding their time in going after the issue so that when they finally would, the dems would not have enough time to save those two spots with fresh appointees BEFORE the wrath of the voters installed a new Republican President.

I think Donald Trump is acting on behalf of the Democrats interest as he is challenging Obama to produce his birth certificate. They realize how much is at stake on the Supreme Court alone and are trying their best to get rid of their impotent fraud so as to allow time to save those appointments for liberal justices. Trump is a Trojan horse in this case. Beware.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2012; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; hillaryclinton; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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To: calex59
Don't pay attention much do you?

That was a quote taken straight from DUmmieland yesterday.

101 posted on 03/30/2011 5:57:37 AM PDT by houeto (Government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed.)
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To: Safrguns
In his race against Keyes for senate, in a public debate, Keyes reportedly said “You are not even a natural born citizen”... to which Obama replied:

“So What?... I’m not running for president... I’m running for senate”

Still looking for that video if it exists anymore.


Here is a link to the debates:

Here is a link to the transcripts


102 posted on 03/30/2011 6:18:28 AM PDT by deport
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To: Safrguns

And also, in the absence of fact, rational people tend not to assume the weirdest, most improbable sh*t to be the case.


103 posted on 03/30/2011 6:34:35 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: luvbach1

There’s no legitimate doubt about obama.


104 posted on 03/30/2011 6:37:14 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: Duck Fan

The COLB clearly shows that Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii. Unless you’ve been asleep for three years, you already know that. Sorry to burst your birther bubble.


105 posted on 03/30/2011 6:40:34 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

....The COLB clearly shows that Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii. Unless you’ve been asleep for three years, you already know that. Sorry to burst your birther bubble....

Apparently you are new to the controversy or have been asleep for 3 years...answer this, how could a COLB be legally generated in 1961 in Hawaii? What makes you think a scanned image is the same as a real COLB? How about the Birth Certificate Lucas Smith obtained from Kenya, what’s wrong with that one?


106 posted on 03/30/2011 6:56:11 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

There are many who say there is no God. Yet, in death, the truth is known. Truth is truth and it is always eventually known. Have you prepared yourself for the possibility that you are wrong?


107 posted on 03/30/2011 6:57:02 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: RipSawyer; freekitty; butterdezillion; precisionshootist

Truthfully, I want to believe the scenario put forth by Butterdezillion that Trump is a “useful idiot” who has seen the light ahead of the time schedule. And the point made by Precisionshootist is a good one in that the left could much more easily use a Pelosi/Reid for the dirty job, so why Trump? Many here see Trump as a pure lover of capitalism, and I do think that is true.

As far as the idea I put forth, it is just something I have suspected and anticipated for a long time. I’ve posted it twice before. At first I was reluctant to post it, because it sounded so out there crazy. Now....not so much.

Anyway, it could happen in this manner: Obama steps down like Nixon did, Biden is sworn in. Biden appoints Hillary (as they have always been buddies). Then Biden begins the cycle of gaffs he is so well known for...only now there are health concerns, brain tumor again? He steps away, and Hillary is sworn in. Hillary is so sad that Biden is so ill, so much turmoil for our country to have these things happen in such rapid succession, but we can all pull together through these hard times, because we are Americans! She helps get Obamacare shot down, and off we go to the races! 2012 Hillary vs. Palin. Who will the minority groups vote for now?


108 posted on 03/30/2011 7:16:52 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

You have to be kidding. No one can be this stupid. You believe that because Øbama has a Hawaiian COLB, that means he was born there?

Hell, even his sister Maya has a Hawaiian COLB. And she was born in Indonesia. Lots of foreign born “citizens” have Hawaiian COLB’s. One of the biggest open secrets ever is the corrupt practice of Hawaiian official issuing COLB’s.

Look. I believe Øbama was born in Hawaii. The notice in the papers leads me to think so. But we don’t really know.

But we do know this: For anyone to assume that Barry was born in Hawaii based on a COLB, is foolish.


109 posted on 03/30/2011 7:16:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
You have to be kidding me. Her birth COLB cannot indicate that she was born in Hawaii, as Obama's does.
110 posted on 03/30/2011 7:33:41 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

The truth is already known. You are wrong. Obama was born in Hawaii and is thus eligible. Sorry to burst your bubble.


111 posted on 03/30/2011 7:36:12 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: rolling_stone

Are you talking about the birth certificate from a country that didn’t exist in 1961?


112 posted on 03/30/2011 7:42:46 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: Uncle Sham

Don’t agree with this opinion at all. If the Dems really wanted to get rid of the boy wonder they would use the act of illegal force in Libya. This would have the most bi-partisan support to let O go. If the Dems use Trump to do their dirty work they will loose the support of the black voters for years to come. Maybe the reason Trump is doing what he is doing because there is some truth to what he is questioning.


113 posted on 03/30/2011 7:52:14 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: wistful
"I remain though a Palin supporter, I just wish she would speak out like Trump has on the BC."

Since we're all coming up with theories, here's mine....

Trump is doing this for Sarah. I don't think he wants to be President and perhaps believes Sarah is the only one to get us out of this mess. Can you imagine how much money Trump has lost because of the usurper in the WH??

We all know what would happen to Sarah if she starts in on the BC issue. She's got enough on her plate. I think we already knew that which is why us "birthers" will not drop it and take the hits for her, most of us anyway.

I believe Trump is either doing this for Sarah or himself.

114 posted on 03/30/2011 7:56:27 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (“Too often, Republicans have the fighting instinct of sheep"...RUN SARAH RUN!!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Bless your heart, I expected just that response. Had I a bubble, you might have a point. Please prepare yourself for other conclusions besides the one you advocate, for your own sanity’s sake. My suggestions are out of concern. That’s all.


115 posted on 03/30/2011 8:02:01 AM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

....Are you talking about the birth certificate from a country that didn’t exist in 1961?....

Don’t answer my question with a question. You tell me. By the way being born in the uS doesn’t by itself make one a natural born Citizen for Presidential eligibility purposes

If Hitler sent Eva Braun to the US for a “vacation” and she had a baby here, would the baby be eligible to be President?


116 posted on 03/30/2011 8:19:15 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: daisy mae for the usa

You birthers are so damned loopy. Prepare for conclusions besides those I advocate? I will say this once and only once. Everything the birthers have brought forth is either a lie, a fraud, or bs speculation. You have already been proven wrong on the basis of the COLB, the contemporary newspaper announcement and the historical record. The thing is that you live in a hive, where independent thought is a threat and acknowledging the simple fact of obama’s citizenship transforms someone into an Obamabot rather than a rational human being. I pity you.


117 posted on 03/30/2011 8:22:06 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: wistful
You need evidence.

Evidence? He don't need no stinkin' evidence. This is a vanity/conspiracy thread.

118 posted on 03/30/2011 8:30:47 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: rolling_stone

For one, a foreign official on a visit is very different from an American citizen giving birth on American soil.

I notice I touched a nerve when I asked you about an obvious fraud. I know birthers love to challenge, not to be challenged, but if you’re going to cite an obvious fraud and compare it to a document issued by a place that actually existed in 1961, you’re opening yourself to ridicule.


119 posted on 03/30/2011 8:41:05 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper ("I think Pravda has mor e sense and logic the our pretend journalists. " A Birther)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
or one, a foreign official on a visit is very different from an American citizen giving birth on American soil.

So how about a child born possibly in the US to a foreign student? Is the child eligible to be President or does he have divided loayalties?....

I notice I touched a nerve when I asked you about an obvious fraud. I know birthers love to challenge, not to be challenged, but if you’re going to cite an obvious fraud and compare it to a document issued by a place that actually existed in 1961, you’re opening yourself to ridicule.

Obviously you have never looked at the document (or you can't read)..you are the one who has opened themselves up to ridicule. Tell me what country issued the BC Lucas Smith obtained? Then tell me why is it an obvious fraud? You are late to this debate by about 3 years and act like you know everything but you don't. I suggest you stop and go back and read some of the looong threads where most all of this has been discussed at length before.

Loopy..eh real funny. Since you know so much just ansewer my questions how could one obtain a COLB in 1961 in Hawaii legally?

120 posted on 03/30/2011 8:56:28 AM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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