Posted on 04/03/2011 3:20:59 PM PDT by tobyhill
Top U.S. officials in Afghanistan on Sunday condemned the burning of a Quran in the United States that sparked three days of protests in which more than 20 people died.
Burning the Muslim holy book "was hateful, it was intolerant and it was extremely disrespectful and again, we condemn it in the strongest manner possible," said Gen. David Petraeus, who heads the U.S.-led international forces in Afghanistan.
U.S. Ambassador Karl Eikenberry said in a statement that Americans respect the Quran "and all religious texts and deplore any action that shows disrespect to any religious faith."
"At the same time, I want to emphasize, as have many Afghan leaders, that to attack and kill innocent people in response to the deplorable act of one individual is outrageous, and an affront to human decency and dignity," Eikenbery's statement said.
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They have to do with the individual responsibility of an individual American to behave responsibly.
I've made that point repeatedly and whether or not it is understood is no longer up to me. It's up to those who distort the actual words I've said to try to get the point I have been making.
God forgive you? For what, wanting to defend your brothers and sisters? I would say God Bless You that you cared enough about those who have been forgotten by the world that you would be willing to await the command. While I am not a member of the RCC, I would love to see the Pope give the call, just as long as you guys don't sack any more Christian cities like last time. Better would be the fulfillment of Zechariah 14.
That is an excellant point you'v e made, and if you apply that same concept to the koran burning you'll see where those of us who are defending the buring are coming from.
Petraeus is an idiot to show respect to that book. Can anyone imagine Ike or Patton condemning the burning of copies of Mein Kampf?
If things are so silly, that a general actually believe the best way to protect the troops is to act like the enemy’s philosophical literature is worthy of respect,,, then we might as well come home.
The best way to protect the troops is for them to inspire total fear. But we can’t do that because the enemy knows we can’t use supporting arms, and if we do too well, or even accidently kill a “civilian”, the FBI and our generals will prosecute.
And yes,,i have time.
What the pseudo-preacher in FL did was wrong.
What the Islamofascists are, and have been doing around the world is evil and maniacal, and no one is comparing the one to the other, nor am I asking that we 'appease' the evil by stopping the wrongheaded, stupid behavior of this egocentric jerk. I am merely pointing out that this Fred Phelps wannabe who knowingly put our troops in further danger, was wrong.
Be well, xzins. Prayers for your family in Afghanistan. They are HEROES, and the fact that bozo Jones put them at further risk enfuriates me. Thank them for me.
And during WWII, Emperor Hirohito, who was considered a God by the Japanese, was consistently mocked in the US press, I don’t think FDR made any mention that we couldn’t insult the Emperor.
I will never defend the burning of any book regardless of how distorted, offensive or wrong the words in that book may be.
I hope you agree that it is my right to hold that view while still understanding the evil of what some defenders of that book are doing around the world. And I hope you can at least begin to see that my asking people to behave in a responsible manner is not in any way appeasing evil.
It is just my standing up for principle, just as you are doing.
Happy to do that. :)
So then are you claiming that the Danish Cartoonist and the Danish Filmmaker were irresponsible and therefore deserved their own deaths at the hands of the offended Muslims?
How about holding ISLAM PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for the HATRED and appeals to murder and violence that are contained in the very pages of the book that Jones burned?
No, in your opinion, Jones should be held responsible for the deaths in Afghanistan and when the radical Muslims kill him, it will be because he acted "irresponsibly". Does that sum up your position?
Individual responsibility. What a crock. Jones is only responsible for the contribution to global warming that his little bonfire created. He is not responsible for the actions of Radical Muslims. The Radical Muslims are responsible for that.
Not even close. Don't make things up.
And I DO hold Islam responsible.
No, in your opinion, Jones should be held responsible for the deaths in Afghanistan and when the radical Muslims kill him, it will be because he acted "irresponsibly". Does that sum up your position?
Not even close. Don't make things up.
Individual responsibility. What a crock
I guess this 'sums up your opinion.'
Good day, P-Marlowe. I prefer rational discussions to your make-believe posts, thank you.
Thank you for your prayers for family, and for your clarification.
I agree that Jones is an idiot; I just don’t think he’s done anything wrong.
And burning a Koran? It’s just paper and ink. Didn’t know that Muslims worshipped trees. They are idolaters.
The crux of our problem has been 60 years of neocon policies that benefit a few while dragging the USA into ever more foggy civil wars that have nothing to do with the defense of the USA. More often than not we’ve been fighting on the sides of those of very questionable integrity.
When the actual defense of the USA is put at risk make no mistake that the ROE will be perfectly clear to all. But when the reason for wars are foggy to begin with there is no good ROE. OBL should have been taken out with precision early on, but for some reason that was never made a priority by Clinton and Bush according to some.
It’s time to take care of the USA while we still have a USA and let the middle east cover itself with sand.
The bigger our military the more it seems our neocon chicken hawks want to use it at their whim. We’ve been in war for what seems now like decades. Meanwhile China and India and others are beginning to eat our lunch in the war that really counts.....economic.
Has he even read the damn thing? As much as everybody is aghast at burning the koran it’s not any worse than burning mein kampf. Did Petraeus complain when the army burned Bibles in Afghanistan? Hypocritical SOB. http://in.reuters.com/article/2009/05/05/idINIndia-39421920090505
I think I understand your viewpoint very well, just as you do mine. Thanks!
Burning the Koran is stupid and pointless. It is burning the Koran knowing that it will put our troops at greater risk that is, IMO, morally wrong.
I think you’re right. And thanks back. :)
Then how can you claim that Jones acted irresponsibly? He acted in accordance with his own conscience and didn't hurt a soul. Islam committed murder in response to nothing more than a bonfire by an individual citizen having no connection with Afghanistan or our own Government.
Using your logic, the United States acted irresponsibly by maintaining a military presence in Saudi Arabia after Desert Storm and allowing the Infidels to pollute the Holy Ground of Arabia and therefore somehow the United States deserved the violence that occurred on 9/11/01.
What Jones did is irrelevant to what the Muslims did. It is nothing more than a pretense to kill infidels and that is what we are up against in Afghanistan. We are up against people who hate us and will look for any excuse whatsoever to kill us in the name of their Religion. If it wasn't Jones, it would have been something else. And the next time, it will be something even more innocuous, like one of our women soldiers showing an ankle in public or reading a copy of the Bible off base.
Are you in the service, and are you in Afghanistan. What of General Petraeus wants to protect the troops do you not get? Is that so hard to understand? *rme*
Apparently he was more interested in himself and his 15 minutes of glory than he was in doing the right thing. But then again, he IS a Phelps devotee, and we all know how conservative and principled those 'Christians' are....
I’m gonna have to disagree with you there, OW. I don’t think it is morally wrong to exercise your rights.
They also kill Christians because the worship Christ and kill anyone who eats pork and basically kill anyone who offends their sensibilities.
At some point, it’s best to tell a bully to take a hike.
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