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We Donít Need Know Education
Townhall.com ^ | April 4, 2011 | Mike Adams

Posted on 04/04/2011 4:58:33 AM PDT by Kaslin

I’m getting to be a crabby old man and I’m not even fifty. But working at a liberal university for eighteen years has taught me never to accept responsibility for my actions or my disposition. Instead I blame my most recent bad mood (the one I’m in right now) on a student who just asked me a question about the landmark U.S. Supreme Court case United States v. Leon, (1984). Wanting to know the holding, he asked if it meant “that the police can rely upon a search warrant they don’t reasonably no is invalid.” I almost told the student there was know way he was going to pass my course if he didn’t no the difference between “know” and “no.” But I just new I would get in trouble if I did.

Of course, when criticizing the low quality of students in higher education it’s important that we not pick on males only (that would be sexist). No discussion of the declining quality of student communication skills would be complete without talking about the role (or was that roll?) of female students. After all, they make up more than 50% of the student body on the average college campus. You are (like totally) aware of their presence when you hear a conversation like the following, which occurred last Tuesday right outside my opened office door:

“I’m just like not real sure what I want to do when I graduate? I like thought I would like major in business but there’s a lot of like math and stuff? Plus, the classes in sociology are like easier and like way more interesting? I just seriously like need to focus on like what I want to do when I get out and stuff?”

None of the young woman’s sentences were actually questions. But the inflections at the end of each sentence (along with the general lack of confidence in anything she said) made them sound like questions. I mean, it made them like sound like questions? I’m sure that that woman has a Facebook account with a “like like” button. So she can like seriously like. And stuff.

Of course, it is racist of me to have just given two examples of declining student quality using white students. Let’s (like totally) fix that by recounting a conversation I heard just this morning as I was walking up the stairwell in the Social and Behavioral Sciences Building, which is sure to be re-named Mike Adams Hall after I retire.

“You did dat. I did not do dat. Yo. Dats right. It’s yo fault. My situation? What about yo situation? I do dat. I do dat. But dats because you done did dat. Dats what I’m sayin’. Dat’s what I be sayin’.”

I have no idea what that young Hyphenated-American student was saying to his cell phone. All I know is that I have the song “Zip-a-dee-do-dat” stuck in my head. Thanks to the Diversity Office it’s the new “Song of the South”!

As much as I enjoy broaching these topics with humor the results aren’t funny when these students get out into the real world to compete in a full-time job applicant pool. So there has to be a serious discussion of how this problem became so pronounced and what can be done about it.

It would be tempting to blame these kinds of problems on the university English departments. After all, they rarely teach students English these days – opting instead to indoctrinate them into post-modern philosophy and radical feminist politics.

It would also be tempting to blame the Schools of Education that pay wacky professors like Maurice Martinez to teach “black English” to white students. Instead of asking the minority to conform to the majority they do the exact opposite – probably because it is more difficult and, hence, would require greater government intervention (read: greater federal grant opportunities).

But the problem is much broader than that. It is a problem stemming from our basic educational mission of promoting multiculturalism and diversity. In this age of diversity we are reticent to correct students for speaking in a “wrong” way or to reward them for speaking in a “right” way. To do either one of these things is to admit that there is a right or wrong way of doing things in any given cultural or social context. Professors who are unwilling to agree that English is the “right” language to speak in this country are hardly willing to assert that there is a right or wrong way to speak it.

President George W. Bush was considered an idiot by most college professors simply because he was inarticulate. One of my colleagues even circulated an email saying that Bush was responsible for the fact that most college students are inarticulate. But Bush is no longer in office and the problem keeps getting worse. Multiculturalism has come up short in our efforts to promote linguistic skill and social competency. It’s time for a new strategery. I think you gnome sayings. Gnome sayin’?


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1 posted on 04/04/2011 4:58:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy; bayouranger; bboop; BenKenobi; Biggirl; Blue Collar Christian; ...

Mike Adams Column


Please Freepmail me if you want to be added, or removed from the ping list

2 posted on 04/04/2011 5:00:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

bttt


3 posted on 04/04/2011 5:03:06 AM PDT by petercooper (Purge the RINO's.)
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To: Kaslin
PRESIDUNCE
4 posted on 04/04/2011 5:04:11 AM PDT by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

I’d like to think it means less competition for my kids, but as teens they are already frustrated with their peers and will not be happy having to work with the majority of them.


5 posted on 04/04/2011 5:05:27 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Wisconsin taxpayers - don't go wobbly on us now!)
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To: Kaslin

Sez here u talk like a fag and uh...ur shit's all retarded. 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She's a pilot now.

6 posted on 04/04/2011 5:10:55 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Like no shit!!!


7 posted on 04/04/2011 5:17:51 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Kaslin

On a more positive note, our quaint native patois will amuse our Chinese masters.


8 posted on 04/04/2011 5:20:35 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Kaslin

On a more positive note, our quaint native patois will amuse our Chinese masters.


9 posted on 04/04/2011 5:20:36 AM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: FrankR; All
I am reading some of the responses of the Townhall readers and one wrote:

-- snip --

A lot of kids don't bother learning proper spelling and grammer because if they do write, they automatically get corrections from word processing programs.

I have always had teachers who insisted on correct grammar and spelling. Also after summer vacation when you went to the next grade the teacher used to ask us what we did on our summer vacations and some said something like I and my friends, or I an my brother etc, the teacher corrected the student and said never say I first, the correct grammar is my friends and I, or my brother and I etc

10 posted on 04/04/2011 5:22:39 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: org.whodat

yeah, he be gettin all up in my FACE n stuff....


11 posted on 04/04/2011 5:24:25 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: Kaslin
None of the young woman’s sentences were actually questions. But the inflections at the end of each sentence (along with the general lack of confidence in anything she said) made them sound like questions. I mean, it made them like sound like questions? I’m sure that that woman has a Facebook account with a “like like” button. So she can like seriously like. And stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCNIBV87wV4
Totally like whatever, you know?, by Taylor Mali


As much as I enjoy broaching these topics with humor the results aren’t funny when these students get out into the real world to compete in a full-time job applicant pool. So there has to be a serious discussion of how this problem became so pronounced and what can be done about it.

I dunno. Some do okay...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUS6nKpddec [Language warning]

It’s time for a new strategery. I think you gnome sayings. Gnome sayin’?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OonDPGwAyfQ [language]

12 posted on 04/04/2011 5:26:03 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: joe fonebone

Like, u no were I bee coming from man.


13 posted on 04/04/2011 5:27:15 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Kaslin

“Ken you feel me, professor?”


14 posted on 04/04/2011 5:28:51 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Temple Owl

“no means know” ping


15 posted on 04/04/2011 5:29:37 AM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: Kaslin

As bad as their language skills are, their ethical skills are worse.
Why not skip college altogether, save a quarter million and get an online degree that people will call meaningless because it only cost a few hundred dollars.
Meaningless is an improvement.


16 posted on 04/04/2011 5:29:41 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: Kaslin
We don't need KNOW education

We don't need KNOW education

We don't need KNOW thought control

KNOW dark sarcasm in the classroom

Teachers leave them kids alone

Hey teacher leave them kids alone

All in all it's just another brick in the wall

All in all you're just another brick in the wall

17 posted on 04/04/2011 5:30:26 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Kaslin

***President George W. Bush was considered an idiot by most college professors simply because he was inarticulate.***

I’d forgive this professor for saying the above if it weren’t for the fact that he also said that he, himself, climbed the stairwell. He must be an amazing acrobat if he can climb up the housing of the stairs.


18 posted on 04/04/2011 5:30:50 AM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: Kaslin
Perhaps slightly off topic, but society used to have "high culture" and "low culture". I remember watching TV long ago and a variety show might have an opera singer, followed by a plate juggler. High culture and low culture. Both are fine. Some people like one, some the other.

We pretty much got rid of high culture, though. Orchestral music? Opera? Even jazz is something for nerds now. Do people read poetry? Latin? Greek? Once upon a time, anyone aspiring to better themselves or to rise up in society tried to get an education in these areas. It made them think better. It made them speak better. It helped them understand "the long conversation" of culture which takes place over centuries of human striving.

I think the 1960s had a lot to do with this problem. All that fancy stuff -- getting dressed for dinner, nice manners, going to the symphony -- all of that was just bourgeois evidence of the stunted life of Americans living in the suburbs. Away with it! We don't need high culture!

Instead, we'll just, like, get funky wi' de homeboys and totally chill. Dat's what real peoples do. And stuff.

19 posted on 04/04/2011 5:32:20 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Kaslin

Very true.

My 14 year old niece does her state capital homework using Google.

The other day, I talked her into taking Spanish as an elective. Well, she’s so smart, she went on Google translator and asked me for different words.

“Cat”, I’d yell from the other room. She’d come back with-”cat!” “Mother”-she’d come back with mother etc.
After about ten words, I stroll into my office, and discovered she was clicking on the wrong ‘Listen’ button.
How could she think that all 10 words would be said the same way albeit a little strange due to lady computer voice-but really-talk about no common sense and lack of skills!

“Just Google it” is all she knows! And the teachers encourage it she tells me. The classes she can’t really Google/fake, she’s got 70’s in-it’s so frustrating to watch her fail in slow motion...


20 posted on 04/04/2011 5:33:29 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly
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To: neutrino

On a more positive note, our quaint native patois will amuse our Chinese masters.

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NO TALK! YOU WORK! WORK NOW!


21 posted on 04/04/2011 5:37:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Kaslin

And BTW-I am like bookmarking? slike I no I’m knot aloan dealing with all this stuff?

BTW-I’ve lost my swag-or so I’ve been told....I was informed of this while watching the Kid’s Choice Awards the other night and made a comment about kids (10 or 11) singing about swag, love and giving it all to the love of their life...

U cant makeup this stuff...


22 posted on 04/04/2011 5:38:41 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly
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To: CT Hillbilly

This is really said, but it shows how lazy teachers are


23 posted on 04/04/2011 5:40:28 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

When we had a local near-revolution concerning the too-easy exams for teachers, one local teacher attempted to uphold the difficulty of the exams by writing to the newspaper that “I and my collegues...”


24 posted on 04/04/2011 5:40:59 AM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: Kaslin
“I’m just like not real sure what I want to do when I graduate? I like thought I would like major in business but there’s a lot of like math and stuff? Plus, the classes in sociology are like easier and like way more interesting? I just seriously like need to focus on like what I want to do when I get out and stuff?”

Like, U could just go do a taping of "Girls Gone Wild" before you decide to take your degree in Art History and move back in with your parents and stuff?

25 posted on 04/04/2011 5:42:12 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: Kaslin
I just seriously like need to focus on like what I want to do when I get out and stuff?”

My son Beau, I mean, Bill, he of the perfectly-styled locks, recently said to me, "If you go to Walmart today, can you get me a hair dryer or something?" "I suppose I could," I replied. "A hair dryer or a bunch of bananas? A hair dryer or a package of new socks?"

26 posted on 04/04/2011 5:43:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: Psalm 144

LOL!


27 posted on 04/04/2011 5:44:04 AM PDT by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: kitkat

That doesn’t mean that Mike Adams thought that President Bush was an idiot, probably just the opposite and I think he admitting that he himself climbed the stairwell. Which I believe he used figuratively


28 posted on 04/04/2011 5:50:35 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
This is really said, but it shows how lazy teachers are

Mostly true. Of course, I don't want to paint with a broad brush and say that "all" teachers are lazy -- but most definitely are. Teachers in government schools are vastly overpaid for the quantity and quality of the work they do. They will whine that this characterization is unfair, but they're just wrong.

We need to close down government schools, and let parents send their children to schools where actual learning is demanded. Teachers at such schools will perform or be fired. No unions, obviously.

29 posted on 04/04/2011 5:53:22 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Mygirlsmom

they can join me in my world...


30 posted on 04/04/2011 6:02:50 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Kaslin
So there has to be a serious discussion of how this problem became so pronounced and what can be done about it.

It was brung too you by singel paier edukatashin. Please enjoy sigel paier helth car.

31 posted on 04/04/2011 6:07:47 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: Kaslin
During a college Physics class, the instructor had just derived the formula for the speed of sound on chalkboard. Drew a box around final equality and declared "also known as Mach 1".

With what sounded like the blinding flash of illumination, from the back of the room came a young, female, BLONDE voice "Oh! Like the car!"

Brought the house down.

32 posted on 04/04/2011 6:10:54 AM PDT by Jumpmaster (Defund the Left!)
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To: org.whodat
Like no shit!!!

no what Im sayin????

Absolutely


33 posted on 04/04/2011 6:14:05 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (I'm up against a hard break...)
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To: Jumpmaster
from the back of the room came a young, female, BLONDE voice "Oh! Like the car!"

that must be the same blonde that borrowed her sister's car...before returning it, the "Wash" light came on...so she washed it..

Absoultely


34 posted on 04/04/2011 6:18:17 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (I'm up against a hard break...)
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To: OBXWanderer
cant leive witout speilchek..

Absolutely


35 posted on 04/04/2011 6:21:46 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (I'm up against a hard break...)
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To: Kaslin; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

With respect, I must dispute your contention that teachers are “LAZY”. I believe the proper word is “INCOMPETENT”.
Just take a close look at the result of their “labors”.


36 posted on 04/04/2011 6:23:09 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: Kaslin

I am considering the possibility of having my boys learn a marketable trade rather than going straight to college. That way they will learn the value of hard work and have real world experience. With the glut of college graduates looking for work, a smart kid with those qualities will be better prepared to handle what the world throws at them than some poor kid who wasted their parent’s money majoring in PC.


37 posted on 04/04/2011 6:29:40 AM PDT by yawningotter
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To: yawningotter

Considered gunsmithing?


38 posted on 04/04/2011 6:34:22 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yo, yous be speakin da troot! lol What’s really scary is that one of the most fun “made up” games we play is “Redneck Scrabble” wherein the only rule is “if you can ‘splain it, you can spell it” is becoming a societal norm!

I, on the other hand, just purchased Latin curricula for my 11-year-old son at the homeschool convention. ;-)


39 posted on 04/04/2011 6:47:30 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Kaslin

I think it also shows how lazy parents are these days. My son occasionally tries to slip in a “neighborhood cool” type inflection to his voice. (He’s only 11 - it’s natural.) It gets nipped in the bud rather quickly.


40 posted on 04/04/2011 6:54:55 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: Kaslin
when you hear a conversation like the following

It's not a conversation when there's only one person speaking!

41 posted on 04/04/2011 7:04:59 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Tax-chick

I would have said ‘I think I’ll get you the or something...it gives me a much broader range of merchandise from which to choose.’ (didn’t end my sentence with a preposition...Miss Kidwell, my middle school English teacher, would be very proud.)


42 posted on 04/04/2011 7:11:38 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Change everything you are, everything you were, your number has been called.)
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To: neutrino
The old East German joke: a realist studies Russian, an optimist studies English and a pessimist studies Chinese. Our grandkids’ Chinese masters will squeal with delight at their feeble attempts at pidgin Chinese.

Maybe our posterity can learn to take in laundry and run restaurants. It's like, you know, way easier than learning math and stuff. My wife used to have a special ed kid whose parents were Chinese immigrants. The kid had trouble with both English and math, but he worked diligently. His ambition was to go to West Point. I do not know what became of him, he'd be about 20 now. I bet he'd make one helluva good officer.

43 posted on 04/04/2011 7:23:30 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Yes, that would have worked. “You know what I mean!” says Bill. “Yes, but do you know what you mean? Do you mean that you would like me to buy you a hair dryer?”

He would have had trouble drying his hair with a new vinyl tablecloth ;-).


44 posted on 04/04/2011 7:42:33 AM PDT by Tax-chick (We have lives.)
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To: CT Hillbilly

Can’t stand google. Much prefer dogpile. Google brings up too much.


45 posted on 04/04/2011 7:44:59 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Tax-chick
My son Beau, I mean, Bill, he of the perfectly-styled locks, recently said to me, "If you go to Walmart today, can you get me a hair dryer or something?" "I suppose I could," I replied. "A hair dryer or a bunch of bananas? A hair dryer or a package of new socks?"

Wow, someone demanding precision of meaning. You must be a fascist!
46 posted on 04/04/2011 7:46:18 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: yawningotter

Plumber, electrician, locksmith, mechanic, etc...

Things folks need, but no one wants or has the skills to do.
And, like the other poster said... gunsmithing may be a VERY valuable skill very soon.


47 posted on 04/04/2011 7:48:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Tax-chick

My theory is that the “ambiguous interrogative” style of speaking comes from the cultural Marxist movement (PC)
that deems it offensive to be sure of oneself or one’s own opinions.

My benchmark libinlaw’s biggest complaint about my wife and I is that “you’re always so sure you’re right”.


48 posted on 04/04/2011 7:50:00 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
It is a problem stemming from our basic educational mission of promoting multiculturalism and diversity.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Mr. Adams fails to recognize that socialist and collectivist managed schools are the problem. That most of our nation's children attend these **government** schools inevitably led to this problem.

For example, we have the most advanced and effective medical system in the history of humankind. Due to the professionalism of those now in the health system and the medical schools that support the system, once it is socialized it will continue to be effective. Over time, though, it will degenerate.

So....While our very first socialist, compulsory, and collectivist-managed schools were effective it was due to the underlying character and values that the earlier teachers, parents, and principals brought into the system. But....Our government schools were doomed to failure because they are fundamentally socialist, godless, and collectivist managed by the voting mobs.

In the quote above, Mr. Adams suggests that if we removed multiculturalism and diversity from the government schools that they would be fixed. NO! It is impossible to fix a socialist, collectivist, compulsory, and godless system.

Solution: Begin the process of privatizing all education.

Solution: Conservatives! If you love your children and want secure future for them, we MUST MUST MUST work to shut down all government schooling. We must work to see that all children have access to a PRIVATE and conservative education that thoroughly integrates the child's specific Judeo Christian religious belief, and our nation's founding principles, into all aspects of the child's education.

Children who attend godless, socialist, compulsory, and collectivist schools WILL learn to be comfortable with socialism, compulsion, collectivism and WILL learn to think godlessly.

49 posted on 04/04/2011 7:57:03 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: BikerJoe; MrB

I suppose, if I were an exemplary mother, I could have just bought Bill the hair dryer without hassling him, but I’d like him to reach adulthood able to make a simple request or statement without throwing in null-sounds.

My father would say, “Let your voice drop - you’re done!” and my mother would say, “Always be positive, even if you’re wrong.”


50 posted on 04/04/2011 8:54:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (We have lives.)
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