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In aircraft years — how old is too old?
San Antonio Express News ^ | 16 April 2011 | Scott Mayerowitz

Posted on 04/17/2011 6:31:10 AM PDT by Racehorse

A well-maintained plane can fly for decades. Older planes do need more repairs, but experts say an aircraft's age never has been the cause of a passenger death. Pilot training and fatigue, as well as frequency of aircraft maintenance, are larger safety issues.

The average age of jets flown by U.S. airlines is 11 years old, slightly above the world average of 10 but far shy of the 28 for Venezuela's fleet — the oldest of any country with more than a handful of jets.

Theoretically, a jet could continue flying indefinitely as long as an airline maintained it, says Bill Voss, president and CEO of the Flight Safety Foundation. The costs eventually would be prohibitive, though. Deciding when to mothball an airplane is usually a matter of the economics of the individual airline.

Older planes need more frequent inspections, and bigger and costlier repairs. That means less time in the sky carrying paying passengers. Besides being cheaper to maintain, newer planes offer substantial fuel savings, and passengers enjoy features such as personal TVs.

“Aircraft become impractical a long time before they become unsafe,” Voss says.

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Age isn't the only factor when it comes to safety. Each takeoff and landing cycle — and the pressurization and depressurization associated with it — adds stress to the skin of the plane. Aircraft that fly short, frequent routes go through more of these cycles than planes flying long distances. In 1988, a 19-year-old Aloha Airlines Boeing 737-200 that had made frequent, short hops among the Hawaiian islands lost a large part of its roof. Corrosion and metal fatigue were to blame.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: aircraftsafety; airlines; aviation
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To: Racehorse

The U2 is still going strong

http://www.wimp.com/breathtakingfootage/


21 posted on 04/17/2011 7:32:33 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
They also said the Shuttle would be cheap access to space but now a flight costs close to a billion dollars. All the Shuttle proponents did was lie through their teeth.

Holy cow! You mean to tell me that over thirty years operating costs go up? Who knew. This is an outrage. I demand an investigation. /s

22 posted on 04/17/2011 7:38:56 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: mylife; rellimpank

And how ‘bout them Warthogs? A-10 Thunderbolt: 1972 - 2028 (and beyond?).


23 posted on 04/17/2011 7:41:30 AM PDT by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Racehorse

I would love to fly one of them warties

They turn on a dime.
Breathtaking to see one flying sideways through a mountain pass laying down fire.


24 posted on 04/17/2011 7:45:08 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: SunTzuWu

They said it was going to be much cheaper than even when the first flights took place. Even if you took into account 30 years of operating costs and compared those with an adjusted 30 year cost projection it was supposed to be much cheaper.


25 posted on 04/17/2011 7:47:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Racehorse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bMfrixJyWc


26 posted on 04/17/2011 7:48:31 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: rellimpank
—the B-52’s apppear to be good for another fifty or so—

I *love* that band!

27 posted on 04/17/2011 8:03:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The Democrat Party is Communist. The Republican Party is Socialist. The Tea Party is Capitalist.)
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To: Grut

Lol...I plumb forgot about that! But they LOOKED new!


28 posted on 04/17/2011 8:34:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (Capitalism is the Goose that lays The Golden Egg.)
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To: Waverunner; BobL
--I doubt that it is politically possible to build a bomber any more--by the time the polliticians got through with it , it woouldn't fly-

-I'm reminded of the days when we were going to haul Alan Cranston's "nuclear freeze" in the B-1---

29 posted on 04/17/2011 8:46:59 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Waverunner; BobL
--I doubt that it is politically possible to build a bomber any more--by the time the polliticians got through with it , it wouldn't fly-

-I'm reminded of the days when we were going to haul Alan Cranston's "nuclear freeze" in the B-1---

30 posted on 04/17/2011 8:47:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: Grut
Actually (at least back in the '70s), bringing a plane back from depot was scary, they were so buggy

1967-1968, all our F-100s went through that, 16D's,2 F's, with only a few minor blips. But, they were in pretty rough shape before they were reset. Believe they said they were 1,000 hrs. past their expected life. Left silver, came back camo.

31 posted on 04/17/2011 8:48:21 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: mylife

Standing a top a mesa and watching a B-52 fly through a canyon is astounding.


32 posted on 04/17/2011 8:51:13 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

When i was in jr high school i was told a shuttle would be taking off once a week.

Guess that never happened....


33 posted on 04/17/2011 8:55:11 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Racehorse
The USMC's fleet of CH-46E's are all over 40 years old.
34 posted on 04/17/2011 9:03:02 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: rlmorel

They do. Regularly scheduled depot-level maintenance.


35 posted on 04/17/2011 9:09:31 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Waverunner

Actually, the NexGen long-range bomber is in the works.

AOA’s and RDT&E are in full swing.


36 posted on 04/17/2011 9:11:08 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: mylife

A-10s fly over our house three or four times a week. They appear to cue up on the new Hwy 5 bridge over Lake of the Ozarks.


37 posted on 04/17/2011 9:15:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Yup, and that was based upon multi-year contracts that congress quickly denied and cut-back. Therefore, you have a limited supplier-base relying on an uncertain customer that is experiencing drastic budget cuts, so the end result is fewer suppliers and increased prices.

Increased prices as a result of supply and demand as well as the suppliers having to go on “risk” for items that take years to procure and there may be no guarantee that the program would be alive, therefore, increased prices to cover possible cancellation and loss of up-front revenue.

38 posted on 04/17/2011 9:16:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I never get tired of watching them fly.


39 posted on 04/17/2011 9:24:18 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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To: razorback-bert

I can only imagine.


40 posted on 04/17/2011 9:26:08 AM PDT by mylife (OPINIONS ~ $ 1.00 HALFBAKED ~ 50c)
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