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Bachmann: Obama has neglected to prove eligibility
WND ^ | April 17, 2011 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 04/17/2011 7:32:49 PM PDT by RobinMasters

U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., says President Obama has neglected to clearly demonstrate he's eligible to hold his office, and says it would be simple for him to do so.

"It's an interesting issue that has gone on for so long and it's one that the president could have solved very early on," Bachmann told Fox News host Judge Jeanine Pirro last night.

"All he had to do is just answer some questions and show his [long-form birth] document and then have people do an attestation that this in fact is a legal document and it's over, it's done. And I think the president has neglected to focus on answering that question for people, and that's why a lot of people still have it lingering in their minds. None of us can prove, none of us can do attestation. Only the president and someone who is legally tasked with attesting to the validity of that document can do that, and I think that's what the president should do."

Bachmann, who is considering her own run for president next year, said, "One thing I know is that people have weighed President Obama in the balance, and he's been found wanting. I think we have a real opportunity to win back the White House. And again, it's not about a political party winning, it's about taking the country back. That's the bigger issue, and I think it's really gonna happen in 2012."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: bachman; bachmann; birthcertificate; certifigate; michelebachmann; minnesota; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin
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To: bushpilot1

BTW, what is the source?


141 posted on 04/19/2011 4:25:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Posted a thread on this...over a year ago. It is from the Baldwin’s Century Edition of Bouvier’s Law Dictionary. Published by The Banks Law Publishing Company in 1926.

I have the dictionary. Paid $2.00 for it at a used book store.


142 posted on 04/19/2011 4:39:45 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Posted a thread on this...over a year ago.

Grrrr, I missed it.

No matter how much time I spend here, can't catch it all.

Great $2.00 investment though, nice find!

Am saving it for future knuckleheads!

143 posted on 04/19/2011 4:43:58 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; rxsid

You can find it in the rxsid Vattel natural born citizen research thread.


144 posted on 04/19/2011 4:44:01 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
Thanks.

There is so much overwhelming evidence what NBC means and what the intention of the phrase by the Founding Fathers intended.

I find it very difficult to believe that people who come here to argue against it don't have an ulterior motive.

145 posted on 04/19/2011 4:56:35 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Why I call Obama a peregrine.. Photobucket
146 posted on 04/19/2011 4:57:33 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
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147 posted on 04/19/2011 5:05:34 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: RobinMasters
Only the president and someone who is legally tasked with attesting to the validity of that document can do that, and I think that's what the president should do."

Exactly!

148 posted on 04/19/2011 5:07:17 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: bushpilot1

No words.....


149 posted on 04/19/2011 5:12:15 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; patlin; Red Steel; edge919; Spaulding; rxsid

A student does not change his domicil by residence at college.

page 317 Bouvier’s Law Dictionary. 7 court cases are listed.


150 posted on 04/19/2011 6:06:38 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1
That's right. Natural, Native and Indigenous were synonymous in the 1700's, into the 1800's.

It's why we see Chief Justice Marshall state:

"Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says "The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens."
in THE VENUS, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814).
Here, we see the great Chief Justice Marshall (who would have studied Vattel's legal treatise "Law of Nations" at the country's first law school...the College of William and Mary...introduced to the school's curriculum in 1779 by Thomas Jefferson) directly quoting, by name, Vattel's work specifically regarding citizenship.

It's why we see Chief Justice Waite state

"At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar [edit: this nomenclature they were familiar with is directly mirrored to the definition found in Law of Nations...which the framers read and referenced during the Constitutional Convention], it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens,"
in Minor v. Happersett (1875)

Vattel's original French, From Chapter XIX, 212 regarding Citizens and Naturals (Citizens):

"Les naturels, ou indigenes, sont ceux qui sont nes dans le pays, de parens citoyens"

Translated to English:

"the natural, or indigenous, are those born in the country, parents who are citizens

The terms were interchangeable then.

It appears that, in the years after the WKA ruling (in 1898), the term "native" has taken on a new meaning when it comes to citizenship.
Of course, WKA was found to be a "citizen" (and not a "natural born Citizen") due to the fact that his parents were perminantly domociled in the country...and conducting business here.
It interesting to note, that Associate Justice Horace Gray (who delivered the majority opinion) was appointed to the bench by non other than the original usurper...Chestur Arthur...who was born in this country...but to a foreign national father and who burned his papers prior to his death, undoubtably to cover his tracks as being born a British subject (inherited from his foreign national father).
 
The royal dictionary, french and english, and english and french
Author: A. Boyer
Publisher: T. Osborne, 1764
Original from Ghent University


From: http://books.google.com/books?id=k7c_AAAAcAAJ



 
A dictionary of the English language. Abstracted from the folio ed., by the author. To which is prefixed, an English grammar. To this ed. are added, a history of the English language
Author: Samuel Johnson
Edition: 3
Published: 1768
Original from: Oxford University
Digitized: Aug 10, 2006

From: http://books.google.com/books?id=bXsCAAAAQAAJ



 
The new spelling dictionary
Author: John Entick
Published: 1780
Original from: University of Lausanne
Digitized: Feb 27, 2008

From: http://books.google.com/books?id=xZUPAAAAQAAJ



151 posted on 04/19/2011 6:22:33 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; Red Steel; Las Vegas Ron; mojitojoe; patlin; CodeToad
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152 posted on 04/19/2011 6:58:18 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: cookcounty

Great, you describe a Certificate of Live Birth, but Obama hasn’t released such rather only a Certification.


153 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:13 PM PDT by ironman
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