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Bachmann Says Obama's Certificate 'Settles' Birther Issue....(What about the rest of missing info?)
ABCNEWS -- George's Bottom Line ^ | April 20, 2011 8:56 AM | George Stephanopoulos:

Posted on 04/20/2011 12:17:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

For the first time, Rep. Michele Bachmann – who is actively considering a run for the White House in 2012  -- has said that the birth certificate President Obama has released to the public puts an end to the "birther" issue. It came when I showed her the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth published on FactCheck.org.

It happened this morning on “GMA.”  Here’s the key exchange:

Stephanopoulos: Last night you were on Fox News suggesting the president should come forward with his birth certificate as well --

Bachmann: Well, what I have said about that is, I was asked a question about that and Republicans are constantly asked to vouch for the authenticity of the birth certificate. The only one who can is the clerk of court in the county where someone is born and that’s where people should go. Don’t ask Republicans, go ask the clerk of court.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.abcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birther; certifigate; obama
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

She was ambushed and bullied into saying “that settles it”. Later, she will be quoted out of context as saying it is settled. Dishonest propaganda.


141 posted on 04/20/2011 1:57:38 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: SvenMagnussen
We know Obama’s COLB was amended because it has a “Date filed” on it. If the COLB was an abstract of an original vital record due to a hospital birth, then it would have a “Date accepted.”

This is great information if it is true. Do we have an example to compare with? On this issue too much stuff gets "alleged" without being actually established as fact. I hope your right, but how do we know for sure?

142 posted on 04/20/2011 1:58:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Don't blame me, I voted for the American!)
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To: Catsrus

All of us who have thought about this for some time have said what Levin said. However if it were proven that Urkel is not qualified the House would impeach him and the RATs would be hard pressed to acquit him. It isn’t about “lying about sex”. And it the Senate did acquit the toll it would take on the party would be enormous even in a country with 50% dumbasses.


143 posted on 04/20/2011 2:00:28 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Paine in the Neck

Well it puts to rest all those rumors that he was Hatched.


144 posted on 04/20/2011 2:02:11 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: itsahoot

Satan has no role in her ignorance.


145 posted on 04/20/2011 2:02:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: ZULU
Somebody doesn’t spend $2,000,000.00 to black access to his records for no reason.

Absolutely Right!!!

And that is my Point ....and the MSM has totally IGNORED that little fact!

146 posted on 04/20/2011 2:03:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: ctdonath2

Not quite. his mother was too young for her to confere citzenship on him, and she may have alienated herself and Brack by leaving the country and letting her new husband adopt him. Of course, he may have repatriated himself and this could have been done by the inattention of the authorities. The law with regard to odd cases is hardly explicit. The very court decision Wong van Ark(?) that set the precedent for anchor babies. actually has to be evealuated in terms of the law in place at the time. The Chinese Exclusion Act set the legal staage at that time. Ironically, the fact of his having been born in Germany—and brought to the US at age of three. Was probably all that kept John Peter Altgeld from being the Democratric nominee for President in 1896.


147 posted on 04/20/2011 2:03:44 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan


Danae's CERTIFICATE (Not Certification) OF LIVE BIRTH is an excellent example of the abstract given for hospital births.

Danae born on August 7, 1969.
Date received by local registrar August 14, 1969
Date accepted August 14, 1969

The registrar "accepted" the attestation of the mother, doctor and hospital administrator. If Danae's COLB was "filed", then it would have been due to a court order after her birth.
148 posted on 04/20/2011 2:04:29 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Poke

To 129

Unfortunately it also says date filed, but it states Certificate rather than certification. A Certification is not the same as a certificate and this one actually has a seal. Where is BO’s seal? Supposedly on the back. I guess they couldn’t certify the front. That would have been perjury!


149 posted on 04/20/2011 2:04:41 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Longbow1969
That you have people in this thread yammering on that someone like Michelle Bachmann shouldn't be in the Tea Party because she isn't sufficiently on the birther bandwagon is beyond silly. That there are people who will blindly follow someone who is NOT a conservative like Donald Trump because he bangs away at the birther stuff is pathetic. The birth certificate stuff is NOT what's going to drive the 2012 elections. It's a sideshow, and not a super important one at that.

The objection to Michelle Bachman is not that she is insufficiently "birther" it's that she showed ignorance and poor judgment in discussing an issue of which she was not fully informed, thereby playing into the propaganda machine of the enemy.

If you don't know what you're talking about, and you don't have time to learn the facts, then DON'T DISCUSS the topic! She just ended up hurting us.

150 posted on 04/20/2011 2:06:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Don't blame me, I voted for the American!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Possible scenarios:

1. Obama has serious dirt on Bachmann.
2. Bachmann is trying to moderate herself so she looks like a viable presidential candidate.
3. Obama being declared ineligable could lead to a constitutional crisis that would be the deathblow to a country already mired in debt.

I’m looking towards maybe 1 and more likely 3 although 2 wouldn’t be out of the question. Brewer stepped away and so did Bachmann, and they would normally never step away from birtherism.

I personally think him being born in this country isn’t verifiable because Hawaii and other overseas USA territories and states are infamous for fudging COLBs, especially since the Great Society and so far, he hasn’t been exactly honest about his birth certificate.


151 posted on 04/20/2011 2:07:04 PM PDT by NorthStarStateConservative (I'm just another disabled naturalized minority vegan pro life conservative.)
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To: Palladin

I guess you are given to ramblings, as what you posted to me ahd no bearing on what you responded to in my post.

And check my tagline...


152 posted on 04/20/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by stockpirate (Sarah, the time is NOW!. .....................Ech bin ein Paliner)
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To: tsowellfan

Of course, people are upset with her demonstration of ignorance. It was the shot heard round the world.


153 posted on 04/20/2011 2:09:38 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: ctdonath2

I’ll bring the rail.


154 posted on 04/20/2011 2:10:31 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: RINOs suck; DiogenesLamp; Smokeyblue; Catsrus; tsowellfan; ilovesarah2012; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

As much as I would like for the BC to be the reason Obama was nullified as POTUS, I just don’t believe its a winable battle. I agree with Rush and Charles Krauthammer that this is not the issue for conservatives to hang their hat on. Don’t you see that while you spend your time on this birther thing, you’re wasting time on the real issues to beat Obama on? The independent voter is not the least bit excited about proving Obama’s citizenship. I deal with them every day and its a nowhere turnoff issue to nearly every one of them. The issues that concern them are the ecomomy and what Obama has done with wealth redistribution. THOSE are the battles we as conservative should be fighting. Otherwise, we’re going to push the voters away. And if you think independents votes don’t matter, then God help us because you’ll ensure another 4 yrs of misery and still be trying to get Obama to produce his BC.


155 posted on 04/20/2011 2:11:55 PM PDT by mentor2k
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To: arrogantsob

That’s an example of Michele Bachmann in the middle of a debate with Barack Obama if she were the nominee and dicussing an issue much more difficult than Obama’s BC.

Scary


156 posted on 04/20/2011 2:12:07 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: jcsjcm
Poke To 129 Unfortunately it also says date filed, but it states Certificate rather than certification. A Certification is not the same as a certificate and this one actually has a seal. Where is BO’s seal? Supposedly on the back. I guess they couldn’t certify the front. That would have been perjury!

Thanks! I noticed that too. I've been going on about the difference between a "certificaTION" and a "certificaTE" that it was one of the first things I looked for.

157 posted on 04/20/2011 2:12:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Don't blame me, I voted for the American!)
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To: RobbyS

Hmmm...I’m not up to speed on that one.


158 posted on 04/20/2011 2:13:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: SvenMagnussen
The registrar "accepted" the attestation of the mother, doctor and hospital administrator. If Danae's COLB was "filed", then it would have been due to a court order after her birth.

Has this been consistent all throughout Hawaii's existence as a state? I noticed they've changed their birth certificate designs quite a bit over the years. Perhaps they change the language sometimes? Thanks for the example.

159 posted on 04/20/2011 2:15:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Don't blame me, I voted for the American!)
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To: stockpirate

He has the guts to take this POS on and the Treason Media hence he is better than a lot of cowering “conservatives”.


160 posted on 04/20/2011 2:16:04 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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