Skip to comments.Carney sighs at birther question (more dissembling)
Posted on 04/26/2011 12:14:52 PM PDT by milwguy
Jay Carney lamented Tuesday that the conspiracy theory about President Obamas birth is getting serious attention while more important matters are getting overlooked.
CNNs Ed Henry asked the White House press secretary to react to Donald Trumps seemingly constant presence on TV, in which the real estate mogul has stoked the myth that Obama wasnt born in Hawaii. In response, Carney said that CNN itself had reported a highly credible piece on an established fact that the president was born in the United States of America.
This was a settled issue, Carney said, calling it unfortunate that for whatever reason, that instead of focusing on the economy, unemployment, the deficit, energy, education and foreign affairs, that this is the subject of that gets any kind of serious attention.
I'll leave it at that, Carney said. But then Henry asked about the birth certificates release, to which Carney replied, the birth certificate that the campaign put up online has been available for everyone to see online around the globe.
Carney said the document can be used to get a driver's license, and that anyone who was born in Hawaii uses the same documentation.
I just think this is, it's a distraction, Carney said. And it's an unfortunate distraction. ... Anybody who is watching this exchange, the West Wing of the White House, would be appalled or most Americans would be appalled.
It could be.
I don’t buy the theory that the nondisclosure of the Birth Certificate is some sort of brilliant political ploy or trap.
The more time goes by the more it appears there is something on the Birth Certificate that would be (at the minimum) politically damaging, that is, if it does indeed exist.
See Post 50, it is furthering this line of thinking.
Read post 43. It might just be this simple. The Prima Facie evidence Obama points to does NOT have the information necessary to proving Natural Born Citizenship. This REQUIRES knowing the Parents place of birth.
Obama inherited his father’s British Nationality at birth. He states he was born under the British Nationality Act of 1948, but that is hearsay until proven by a factual document, such as a Certificate of Live Birth (long form) which the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB Short Form) does NOT have.
Maybe it really is just that simple. By presenting Prima Facie evidence, he can legally say he has Hawaiian Documents. However, sometimes you have to know what generated that COLB, and 100% of the time in determining Citizenship, it is required to establish genealogy. In fact, if Obama presented the Long Form to the British Consulate, he could claim his British Citizenship, and get a British Passport. GUARANTEED. He wouldn’t even need to apply for it, just present his Long Form.
Maybe that is literally all that the cretin is hiding, certainly from a legal standpoint it makes sense. Obama, the Constitutional “professor” would have been familiar with the debates on the 14th Amendment... in which the primary author John Bingham of Ohio states unequivocally and with out challenge, that a Natural Born Citizen is one born under the SOLE JURISDICTION of the United States. So he hides the evidence of his dual jurisdictional Birth. The COLB does not give the information NECESSARY to determine his Natural Born Status, and maybe THAT is why it has been shoved down everyone’s throat, and why he refuses to release the thing.
It might just be that simple.
No, it's not settled.
Obama's open admission of Kenyan citizenship was and remains a matter of grave concern with respect to his natural born citizenship status.
All of the Kenyan clown's records relating to his citizenship(s) must be aired: natal records, visa and passport records, and all other documentation related to his status as an admitted Kenyan citizen, a likely British citizen, a possible Indonesian citizen (he had to either have a visa or citizenship to have lived there so many years, and since he was adopted by an Indonesian citizen, he most likely was a citizen), and his hypothetical American citizenship.
The constitutional requirement is for natural born citizenship. The Kenyan has admitted to circumstances which clearly cloud any such claim on his part; it is incumbent on him to clear these clouds by releasing all of the primary documents, and the most important of all is the long form birth certificate.
Its not just the BC. Almost all of the Zeros paper trail is MIA.
WTF is he hiding?:
Here ya go...
“This was a settled issue, Carney said, calling it unfortunate that for whatever reason, that instead of focusing on the economy, unemployment, the deficit, energy, education and foreign affairs, that this is the subject of that gets any kind of serious attention. “
We can “focus” on all of the above, Mr Carney. The little people are smarter than you think.
Now they’re pointing to the msm as proof of 0Bummer’s eligibly? That’s pretty low.
It comes from the Long Form, the Certificate of Live Birth.
The COLB may be Prima Facie evidence, however, it does not have all the information from the Long form, only part of it, and the part it lists is NOT sufficient for establishing Natural Born Citizenship.
The entire topic is ratcheting up quickly, thanks to Trump. And I am glad about it.
Just wait, there is more bubbling under the surface. I am helping in that effort. It MIGHT add to the public discussion. That is what we are aiming for anyway.
THANK YOU AND THOSE YOU’RE WORKING WITH!!!