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To: sand lake bar

“I’d say this shows clearly that he is a natural born citizen.”

Nope. His father was NOT an American citizen, so that makes him Native Born, not Natural born.

He’s still not eligible to be president!

Also, his mother could not confer citizenship on Obama at the age of 18.

She had to be a citizen for 5 years after the age of 14.

She’s 1 year shy!


183 posted on 04/27/2011 6:50:40 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

No, he is not eligible.

But this is America where the vast majority of the population believes what the media tells them and actively desires and works to be a slave to government.


204 posted on 04/27/2011 6:55:30 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (Humans: can't live with them, can't eat them.)
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To: Bigh4u2
Nope. His father was NOT an American citizen, so that makes him Native Born, not Natural born. He’s still not eligible to be president!

Good luck with that especially since the major precedent is totally against you. Nobody bothered to challenge Vice President or President Arthur on that basis even though it was widely reported that his father was Irish born. NOBODY, however, despite that well-known fact thought the question of his father's citizenship even worth asking about. for this this reason, either voters in 1880 were much dumber than voters today (IMHO the opposite is true) OR, more logically, they didn't think this issue had any bearing on Arthur's eligibility.

424 posted on 04/27/2011 7:43:40 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Bigh4u2

“Also, his mother could not confer citizenship on Obama at the age of 18.

She had to be a citizen for 5 years after the age of 14.

She’s 1 year shy!”


What you mean to say is that because Obama’s father was an alien, and because Obama’s mother hadn’t been a *resident* of the U.S. for five years after having turned 14 (because she was only 18 years old), then she could not confer her U.S. citizenship to Obama HAD OBAMA BEEN BORN OUTSIDE OF THE U.S. That’s the reason why it was necessary for Obama to show evidence that he was born in Hawaii—unlike Carter or Reagan or Bush 41 or Clinton or Bush 43, Obama could only be a U.S. citizen at birth had he been born in the U.S. I’ll leave it to others to vet this certificate to make sure that it’s legit, but assuming that it is then that’s that.

As for the theory that jus sanguinis citizenship is required for someone to be a natural-born citizen, I respectfully disagree. Congress by law provides for who is a U.S. citizen at birth, and is someone is a U.S. citizen at birth pursuant to the U.S. law in effect at the time such person was born, then that person is a natural-born citizen.


535 posted on 04/27/2011 8:19:36 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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