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White House Releases Full "Certificate of Live Birth" from Hawaii
WSJ ^ | 27 April 2011

Posted on 04/27/2011 6:13:01 AM PDT by Fractal Trader

Just a teaser..

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; eligibility; naturalborncitizen; obama; officialbcrelease
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To: DJ MacWoW

The “white” one is a photocopy of the green one.


221 posted on 04/27/2011 9:45:31 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: curiosity

I find it surprising because no hospital in Hawaii has records of his birth. It’s a complete forgery:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711164/posts?page=325


222 posted on 04/27/2011 9:48:34 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: pillut48; onyx; RedMDer; DJ MacWoW; vox_freedom; Danae

ROFL !!!


223 posted on 04/27/2011 9:51:38 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: curiosity
Sorry, wrong word...I'm not a birther, haven't memorized each and every fact...last I heard, the hippie governor swore he knew 'baby Obama' even though the family moved to California allegedly not long after his birth? And the governor said he knew where the LFBC was, and that he was going to release it to end all the birther questions...then the next thing I remember is this controversial, fishy, suspicious story Celebrity Journalist (Mike Evans): I Never Spoke to Hawaii Gov About Obama Birth Certificate and then the story that the governor couldn't find the LFBC in the Hawaii Archives. Are you saying he DID find the LFBC in the Hawaii Archives? Could you give me a link to that story? Thanks!
224 posted on 04/27/2011 9:53:29 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Fractal Trader
I find it surprising because no hospital in Hawaii has records of his birth.

What makes you think hospitals keep birth records for 50 years? Even if they did keep such records (and they don't), Federal privacy laws prohibit them from disclosing such records, or even acknowledging that they exist.

Let me give you a piece of friendly advice: it's generally a good idea to verify claims made on blogs before believing them.

225 posted on 04/27/2011 9:57:00 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: DJ MacWoW; pillut48

It does seem a tad peculiar.

Has anybody done a blow up of that box checked by the attendant below her signature? It looks from first glance as if something may have been checked in the “other” box in her signature, and then smudged over after with the MD check below- it’s hard to tell with the naked eye.


226 posted on 04/27/2011 9:57:48 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Fractal Trader
I find it surprising because no hospital in Hawaii has records of his birth.

What makes you think hospitals keep birth records for 50 years? Even if they did keep such records (and they don't), Federal privacy laws prohibit them from disclosing such records, or even acknowledging that they exist.

Let me give you a piece of friendly advice: it's generally a good idea to verify claims made on blogs before believing them.

227 posted on 04/27/2011 10:00:50 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: PLMerite
Why? What's the point? And it doesn't look like a photocopy. Why not release the green one on twitter?

Oh and if it was a photocopy there'd be more gray on it. And the pattern on the green one would photocopy too. I've scanned and printed death certs on that kind of paper and they don't look like that. They are not white.

228 posted on 04/27/2011 10:02:25 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: STARWISE
ObamaLongFormBC on Twitter

Twitter is backwards, start at the bottom and read up to follow conversations. ;-)
229 posted on 04/27/2011 10:03:16 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Qbert; pillut48

I’m not sure who is doing what but Hubby said someone examined it in Photoshop and it has “layers”.


230 posted on 04/27/2011 10:04:52 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW; pillut48

Interesting.

Also, look at the bottom- they misspelled “the” on the “hereby certify...” part. And the type-pressure is much heavier on the “of txe” part of that phrase.


231 posted on 04/27/2011 10:11:13 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: pillut48
The governor couldn't release the LFBC because the state's privacy laws prohibit it. Here's the story that describes it:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-birth-hawaii-gov-proof-presidents-birth-certificate/story?id=12721552

Because the governor doesn't specifically mention a birth certificate in the above story, and instead merely refers to Obama's birth record as something "written down," birthers read between the lines and conclude he couldn't find the BC but something else. Of course, that's stupid. Since a birth certificate is a written record, it is illogical to conclude the governor was referring to something other than a birth certificate when speaking of a record "written down." But then again, birthers were never any good a logic.

Later, some guy named Mike Evans, a celebrity gossip radio talkshow host (I refuse to call him a "journalist" in order to avoid insulting people like Brit Hume), claimed the governor told him he couldn't find the BC. Later, Evans retracted the statement, denying the governor ever talked to him. Birthers, naturally, believe Evan's original statement and don't believe the retraction.

Somehow birthers can't understand why a man who makes his living in celebrity gossip would lie in oder to gain attention.

232 posted on 04/27/2011 10:18:00 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: Qbert

Yup! What a bunch of amateurs!


233 posted on 04/27/2011 10:22:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: little jeremiah

Was “African” what Hawaiians usually put on 1961 birth certificates for a race?

Is the white around the letters a product of typewriter key impressions or what? Can’t be, now that I look at it again; the white is around the document’s print, too, not just around the typed characters. I take it that this is a photographed copy which shows the security background. No mention of his Indonesian adoption? This doesn’t appear to be all of the document, if changes in citizenship status are supposed to be noted. My 1959 birth certificate indicates weight and length, this one doesn’t or at least the part they’re showing doesn’t.


234 posted on 04/27/2011 10:33:04 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: skr; little jeremiah
You're right. African is a nationality and not a race. Hawaii was a state then and the descriptor used would be "negro".

Go here: Obama’s Birth Certificate, Dissected

Info is in thread as website has crashed.

235 posted on 04/27/2011 10:38:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: curiosity; Danae; butterdezillion

‘This is a collaborative endeavor’ - Gov. Neil Abercrombie has an agenda, but he can’t do it alone

*snip*

Q: You stirred up quite a controversy with your comments regarding birthers and your plans to release more information regarding President Barack Obama’s birth certificate. How is that coming?

A: I got a letter from someone the other day who was genuinely concerned about it; it is not all just political agenda. They were talking on Olelo last night about this; it has a political implication for 2012 that we simply cannot have.

(Abercrombie said there is a recording of the birth in the State Archives and he wants to use that.)

It was actually written I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down ...

...What I can do, and all I have ever said, is that I am going to see to it as governor that I can verify to anyone who is honest about it that this is the case.

If there is a political agenda then there is nothing I can do about that, nor can the president.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/editorials/20110118_This_is_a_collaborative_endeavor.html

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Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago - By Jana Winter

Published April 27, 2011
FoxNews.com

*snip*

The issue of Obama’s birth certificate generated new interest in recent weeks following comments by Trump, among others. But Fukino said the original document was actually moved some time earlier, in response to a resurgence of interest raised by comments by made by Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie on the issue, and “to abide by state law in protecting the document from unauthorized use or theft.”

Earlier this year, Gov. Abercrombie called off his much-publicized promise to reveal Obama’s birth records.

Hawaii state law dating back to 1949 precludes the disclosure of vital records, including birth certificates, to anyone without a justifiable interest—i.e. is the subject or relative of the record—and it remains unclear why Abercrombie would have vowed to disclosure the records in the first place.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/27/obama-birth-certificate-moved-secure-location-months-ago/


236 posted on 04/27/2011 10:52:36 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: DJ MacWoW; pillut48

Also her name is typed as “Stanley Ann Dunham” (indicating she was not married at the time, unlike what he has previously stated), but the supposed signature is signed with “Obama” as her last name.

So maybe POTUS held back releasing the BC because she wasn’t really married to Barack Senior.


237 posted on 04/27/2011 10:58:09 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

Well did already have a wife, Kezia.


238 posted on 04/27/2011 11:00:25 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’ll have to take that last one back- the typed part asked for her maiden name.


239 posted on 04/27/2011 11:05:48 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: STARWISE

Iam sorry I wasn;t clear. When I searched this days ago I found a wikipedia write up on the man Jack Maskell and he had ties to Obama.

I may have even posted the link days ago.A fresh search turns up no wikipedia on Jack Maskell. Sorry.


240 posted on 04/27/2011 11:09:11 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (If Obama announced his resignation that would probably bring gas to $2.30 within an hour.)
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