Skip to comments.PDF Layers in Obama’s Birth Certificate ( NRO: Much ado about nothing)
Posted on 04/27/2011 4:09:51 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
We have received several e-mails today calling into question the validity of the PDF that the White House released, namely that there are embedded layers in the document. There are now several other people on the case. We looked into it and dismissed it.
The PDF is composed of multiple images. Thats correct. Using a photo editor or PDF viewer of your choice, you can extract this image data, view it, hide it, etc. But these layers, as theyre being called, arent layers in the traditional photo-editing sense of the word. They are, quite literally, pieces of image data that have been positioned in a PDF container. They appear as text but also contain glyphs, dots, lines, boxes, squiggles, and random garbage. Theyre not combined or merged in any way. Quite simply, they look like they were created programmatically, not by a human.
Whats plausible is that somewhere along the way from the scanning device to the PDF-creation software, both of which can perform OCR (optical character recognition) these partial/pseudo-text images were created and saved. Whats not plausible is that the government spent all this time manufacturing Obamas birth certificate only to commit the laughably rookie mistake of exporting the layers from Photoshop, or whatever photo editing software they are meant to have used. Its likely that whoever scanned the birth certificate in Hawaii forgot to turn off the OCR setting on the scanner. Lets leave it at that.
UPDATE: Ive confirmed that scanning an image, converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.
Another UFO shot down I guess...
they’ve been against the birth issue since the get go just like some on the right and all the corrupt biased media.
The establishment elitist GOP are in attack mode against those who raise questions which they have not raised.
NR has been a worthless RINO rag since Buckley departed.
I don’t recall ever seeing scanned images in more than one layer.
Replicating this at home depends on the scanner and software used, but the results are typical of a scanner taking the text and saving it as a searchable layer. The reason random letters are left off a layer (which would make no sense if someone was creating this layer-by-layer) is because the scanner simply didn’t pick it up.
“NR has been a worthless RINO rag since Buckley departed.”
I let my NR subscription lapse after 30 years. They sicced collectors on me.
Every Saturday, the NR publisher and I have breakfast at the same diner. He asked me what’s up and I replied get back to me when NR is a conservative magazine again.
If you want to hide something, you’d probably hide everything. Otherwise, you signal what it is that you’re hiding. What’s the possibility that the “hidden” info is elsewhere, and this is just one of the things that got sequestered to provide cover?
Why would they sic collectors on you just for letting your subscription lapse? Doesn’t sound believable.
It happens when you clean up a scan with Adobe CS. I’ve had the same thing occur.
It’s just surprising that whoever did it didn’t flatten the image.
MuBarak is an idiot to have released this Copy of Date Points on a Wednesday!
What moron doesnt know that if you want a story to die you release it over the weekend or on a holiday?
Further, it may have been enough to convince Lieutenant Lakin to continue following orders of deployment as he had done so many times, honorably, as a decorated veteran would do and does.
But no... He let an honorable man hang in the wind, under a cloud of doubt and ruin his career and life. For What?
This settles nothing and I want to see the one he found among his mothers belongings when she passed in 1995, as well the one that is sealed in his admissions for kindergarten and preschool.
Barak, if this settles it for you then you screwed a fine man and you should be ashamed!
You have no honor.
What horse pucky is this?
In my line of work which involves a lot of document creation, archiving and document control, I have been using scanners, Acrobat, Illustrator, Photoshop and various other software and hardware for many years.
If you simply scan a document that is rendered as a PDF, there are no layers created. The entire document created is an image (no actual text content).
Now if OCR was used, Acrobat will try to render that text in the nearest font available on the system and will recreate the text in a layer using that font. But this doesn’t explain the signatures where no font can match.
Sorry, but I’m not buying this document as being authentic. It was clearly manipulated.
The green safety background has a color gradient similar to a JPEG image. This is clearly an overlay and not part of the original document. This is also supported by the information in the file header (numerous “mask” entries).
In contrast, most of the text is pixelated as a 2-color (B&W) bitmap. The black text also has a thin white border around it as though contrast was increased, after a bitmapped text layer was merged to the background.
I think you can be anti-Obama and not doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii. Or what am I missing?
“He’s dead, Jim”
the question raised about the hospital name has also been debunked. the people coming up with this nitpicky stuff are digging themselves into deeper and deeper holes full of crap
Here is Mitchell Owens’ explanation:
“The website for the hospital you cite states merely that the Kapiolani Maternity Home was founded in 1890 and merged in 1978 with another hospital. However, according to the 1962 “American Directory of Obstetricians & Gynecologists” (pages 105, 132, and 202), the Kapiolani Maternity Home was indeed renamed the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital, certainly prior to 1962, when the book was published. That name change is also cited in a book published three years before the President’s birth: “Social Service in Hawaii” by Margaret Mary Louise Catton (Pacific Book Publishers, 1959), In it the hospital’s name change from Kapiolani Maternity Home to Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital is cited on page 103. Two other books, “Social Process in Hawaii: Volume 32” (University of Hawaii at Manoa, 1989) and “The Health of Native Hawaiians” by Eldon L. Wegner (University of Hawaii at Manoa, 1989), both state that in the hospital’s “charter was amended to change the organization’s name to Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital.” This name change took place prior to 1950, according to the “Hawaii Medical Journal,” Volume 10 (published 1950), which calls the hospital the Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on pages 53, 129, and 453. “
Yep, it’s time to find a new horse to beat, this one’s dead.
Challenge each point. Prove that you are right.
How you can not think this is fake is beyond me?
Well, try telling that to your average birther.
People are really obsessed with proving Obama doesn’t have a birth certificate. Is that really healthy?
No OCR or scanning app creates layers in any form or fashion.
If there was solid evidence that Obama was born somewhere else, it would be worth investigating further. For example:
1. Is there any evidence Ann Dunham flew to Kenya?
2. Is there any evidence Ann Dunham gave birth to Barack Obama in Kenya or anywhere else?
3. Is there any evidence, upon returning to Hawaii, that she submitted a bogus claim of birth?
You can’t give credence to some crazy old grandmother back in the Kenyan serengeti and then, with a straight face, say that the entire State Government of Hawaii is in on the scam.
Something appear a little funny to everybody? A man and a political party spend more than 1 million dollars trying to keep from having to show that this guy is elligible when it could be this simple? Reserve judgement. There are still things wrong. Wait! I have a feeling there is more coming. Why would he and a political party spend more than three years and all that money trying to keep from having to do something this simple? It doesn’t add up and I don’t trust them. If somebody (WITH A GENUINE RIGHT TO KNOW ASKED TO SEE MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE THIS, I WOULD HAVE PRODUCED IT IN A HEARTBEAT, I WOULD NOT STONEWALL FOR MORE THAN THREE YEARS AND THEN ACCUSE THE OPPOSITION OF SILLINESS), This man is a bafoon. He’s playing the Democratic playbook right to the wire.
Where is the real birth certiccate with the foot prints and the seal like we all have from that era? Don’t be snowed. If he had one like that which proved he was born in the US, you’d have seen it by now. The man simply is not elligible to be president. If he was, you’d know. Keep pushing. And vote accordingly in 2012.
Oh yes they can. There is no level of craziness someone wed to a conspiracy theory won't stoop to. Once a person becomes emotionally invested in a conspiracy theory there is absolutely nothing you can do to convince them they are wrong. Human nature is what it is. Even otherwise rational, intelligent and thoughtful people can fall prey to this sort of thinking.
What's telling in this image, about the nature of these layers, is all of the little stray letters left behind. Virtually every kind of visual element that you or I would consider a cohesive whole is split up.
"None" is split into "Non" and "e." The "D" splits off of "Dunham." The bottom signature is split up, too. Both date stamps at bottom are split into different layers, though in different places. The "R" is split out of "BARACK." In the tiny print you can catch split-out bits of words. "add" "Co"
All of this speaks to a machine driven process, not something that a human being has designed from elements cut and pasted together.
Sorry to all who thought this was the smoking gun.
Or, to put it another way: It would take a LOT of time for a human being to split an image up in this way and then reassemble it into the image we see. And there would be no reason to do it that way. Why spend 50 hours cutting a document into all kinds of crazy little pieces? Especially if you were trying to create a forgery? Just doesn’t make any sense that way.
It’s so bad it’s laughable.
On another thread, there was a link to a great You Tube video that you did on this matter. I can’t find the link to the video.
No OCR or scanning app creates layers in any form or fashion.No OCR. But PDF software that applies MRC compression does.
Why spend 50 hours cutting a document into all kinds of crazy little pieces? Especially if you were trying to create a forgery?
As you can see from the image below, the scanning software DID seperate elements as can be seen by the Illustrator handles. These would be picked up as separate layers. I was able to move these elements including the black type. Moving the type did leave a white area beneath it.
Proving this is a forgery is probably not possible, the government has had 2.5 years to work on it, so the best thing to do is declare a victory, and start pushing for his other records to be produced(school records, etc.).
Okay, that’s plausible. It probably doesn’t fit Occam’s Razor, but it IS plausible.
Plausible doesn’t get us very far, though. It’s plausible that the Director of Hawaii’s Department of Health conspired with the Obama administration to produce a totally fake birth certificate. But I know of no one who has any actual PROOF to that effect.
Suppose Mr. X is dead. Mr. Y was known to dislike him. Mr. Y was in the same city that night. But there’s no DNA evidence, no witnesses, no proof of any kind. It’s plausible that Mr. Y killed Mr. X, but we can’t convict and hang Mr. Y without some actual convincing PROOF.
In fact, when it comes to the layers, it would’ve been a lot easier for them to just produce a fake certificate and scan a flat image than it would have for them to go to the lengths you describe. So that leaves the scenario you describe probably quite unlikely. If they were going to fake it, why not hide the changes in a flat image? Far, far easier, and fewer questions asked.
Right there is the screen cap that proves this thing at best has been manipulated and at worst has been forged.
Some letters in the birth certificate, however, don't. Some are very "flat" and look like they've been desaturated and the contrast has been increased. But why would some be that way and others not, unless the contrast on the original was "pushed" somehow, and then extra letters with dithering were added later? And if that was so, it seems like it would completely wash the light background out when they pushed the contrast on the original text.
I'm an amateur photographer, and I've worked with lots of different types of scanned images, and different types of image manipulation. I have NEVER seen two characters side by side scan so differently.
Usually, right out of the scanner, text looks like it does on the left, that is, black and white with shades of gray that the computer adds to represent smoother curves. To improve readability and copy-ability, though, you can push the contrast so that it looks more like that on the right. But, you simply don't get both results in the same document without manipulation, ESPECIALLY two characters side by side. If someone can do it, I'd be delighted to see the results.
That would be sloppy indeed.
When I dissected the PDF (try "pdfimages -j"), I was very surprised to find the separate parts. While it's conceivable that an OCR setting perhaps created those, it's certainly not the first explanation that came to mind.
Whoever at the White House decided to use a PDF for a simple image made a major error. Releasing this particular PDF, which clearly is not a clean one, was an incredible blunder, no matter how the various parts were inserted into it.
Next time, I hope the technology dunces at the White House stick with something like a simple JPEG. What they released here just adds fat to the fire from a forensic viewpoint.
I don’t think perception enters into it. The other side hates us already and nothing’s going to change that. In my opinion, it is long past due that Conservatives came up with the backbone to pester this man the way the Left has pestered every Conservative for the past 30 years. For heaven’s sakes...the Left carried around signs advocating for the assassination of George Bush. None of them condemned their own for that.
It’s time for the gloves to come off and face the opposition on terms they can understand, i,e., repetition of tired phrases and hammering them relentlessly on the anvil of irrationality. Use their tactics against them. The Left doesn’t police it’s loonies, and I’m for damn sure not gonna police ours.
I don’t have a problem with any of it. Anything to undermine the legitimacy of this traitor is A-OK with me.
Trump shattered Obama’s MSM cocoon very quickly.
Nonsense. PDF vs. Adobe CS files are irrelevent. Straight scans are one layer, by definition, because they're bitmaps with no innate object definitions. The only way to get multiple scan layers is to do multiple scans, and even then they aren't going to segregate themselves by subject matter, since all the scanner sees is undifferentiated bitmap data.
If you have scan layers, without or especially with subject matter content differentiation, you have deliberate assembly, which in this case means tampering, because the document has no structural justification for anything other than a straight scan.
I am a butt open novice compared to most with Adobe...but I have done enough to know that a scan is a flat scan...OCR be damned. This was last minute, shove it through forgery by some extremely smart people who want to keep it alive or extremely stupid aids...still do not cannot fathom which.
Keep fighting the good fight. I see that clear as day. I don’t know why others cannot. I guess too many anti-birther elites are more concerned about their egos.
Everyone should know by now that the established rules of science and physics don’t apply to Obama or his magically appearing documentation.
or they were touch ups they forgot to merge
The ss# is the next big question. How did he get it?
Not NBC = not eligible. And our SCOTUS won’t even do their job.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2711500/posts?page=33#33 Scanning a document to a PDF DOES CREATE LAYERS! I'VE DONE IT!
As a die-hard birther who has had multiple phone conversations with that kook Phil Berg, I think the jig is up. Must of the criticisms can be chalked up to human error and a crappy typewriter.
I began the day with high hopes for our side but must admit that they have been dashed. The guys whole story is very hinky but we are really chasing a dragon here and I, myself, have wasted a great deal of time and worry on the issue.
More than anything, I am pissed at this President’s snobby and elitist attitude towards the public in regards to this issue. He’s done nothing but play games and continues to laugh his ass off as he screws America at every turn.
How does one REALLY re-distribute WEALTH???...Communist style?
MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAS NOTHING.