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London is no longer an English city, says John Cleese. Is he right?
The Telegraph ^ | April 18th, 2011 | Ed West

Posted on 04/29/2011 7:35:54 AM PDT by Eurotwit

He said: “There were disadvantages to the old culture, it was a bit stuffy and it was more sexist and more racist. But it was an educated and middle-class culture. Now it’s a yob culture. The values are so strange.”

He added that he preferred living in Bath to London because the capital no longer felt “English”.

“London is no longer an English city which is why I love Bath,” he said. “That’s how they sold it for the Olympics, not as the capital of England but as the cosmopolitan city. I love being down in Bath because it feels like the England that I grew up in.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: johncleese; london; sadiqkhan; unitedkingdom
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To: henkster

“...Same as happens here with the libs fleeing California for Colorado and New Yorkers bringing their failed policies to North Carolina....”

Colorado used to have bumper stickers, “Don’t Californicate Colorado”

But efforts to stop liberal septization (new word to describe what happens to your neighborhood when libs move in) , and Colorado (especially Denver, Boulder, and Aspen) are now infected by metastasized liberals. Hopefully, a good cleansing after the revolution will work.


21 posted on 04/29/2011 7:50:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Sam Cree

I envy you. Visiting England has been a dream of mine for many years.

Someday, I ‘ll actually make it.


22 posted on 04/29/2011 7:50:52 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Eurotwit
Really an odd situation.

During the early Python years, many of the others didn't get along well with him because he was too conservative. Now Palin and Idle have moved farther to the right (at least by some of their recent comments), while Cleese has moved to the left. T Jones is, and always has been, a bit of a loon, politically wise. Gilliam is hard to figure but may be closer to libertarian.

Champman continues to be not appearing in this post!

23 posted on 04/29/2011 7:52:40 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: Da Coyote

I have sort of warm feelings for the Californians in Colorado.

My first girlfriend was a California girl that I met at the uni in Boulder :)

I guess I was there in the mid of the transformation.

One of the dorms were called Hotel California.

But, you also had a lot of Californians moving there outside of students.


24 posted on 04/29/2011 7:53:30 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit

Monterrey Jack Cheese speaks. I no longer listen, unless he’s being intentionally funny.

(Cleese’s family name used to be Cheese, but his father changed it to Cleese in 1915. He lives, or used to live, in Monterrey, CA. I don’t know if he still lives there.)


25 posted on 04/29/2011 7:56:25 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Skooz

You should really go.

If you watched the some of the wedding today, you will know that London is still London to some degree.

And, as Cleese says if you go to places like Bath is more like “the England he grew up in”. I was on the Yorkeshire coast last summer. It was excellent. The largest problem was not muslims. The only ones I ever saw was 40 or so men in saudi beach robes perving on women on the beach.

The largest problem was native British yob culture. People lying in the gutters puking a friday night when you are on the way to a theatre show.


26 posted on 04/29/2011 7:56:48 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
I love John Cleese for his work, but this story, imho, illustrates liberal thinking and hypocrisy.

I had a conversation recently with some libs from Burlington, VT. They were extolling the virtues of Vermont, and admired how one is not really accepted by the denizens until some time has passed, and one is finally considered a Vermonter. They do not conform to the rest of the world, and expect the rest of the world to conform to them. That sounded OK to me-sort of like the idea that immigrants who settled in America in the past became Americans.

Then one of the libs starts in on immigration, and how we need to have completely open borders. I pointed out the contradiction to him that being swamped by a bunch of illiterate Turd World peasants is not a way to preserve the Vermont enclave he loves so well. I guess he assumed Vermont would stay the way he loves it and the rest of us become Mexico.

Liberalism really is a mental disorder.

27 posted on 04/29/2011 7:57:16 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Eurotwit

Why John Cleese! You must be a racist because you want to enjoy your own culture! /s


28 posted on 04/29/2011 7:57:36 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Da Coyote

Californians went to Colorado to get away from California, but then many brought California with them.


29 posted on 04/29/2011 7:58:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Buckeye McFrog; Eurotwit

Your two comments dovetail nicely to illustrate in a nutshell the madness that is leftism.

“Ouch! It hurts!” Well, take your away from the fire. “Ouch! It hurts!”

It isn’t enough that they fail to learn for themselves - they insist on forcing our hands into the fire as well.


30 posted on 04/29/2011 8:08:03 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Eurotwit

I think many liberals like him are having ha massive case of cognitive dissonance as their utopia is crashing in around them.

So, he is cracking-up just like Basil Fawlty did after that blow to the head...


31 posted on 04/29/2011 8:08:04 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Eurotwit

It is kinda creepy how this parallels why I moved from Seattle to rural Kentucky.


32 posted on 04/29/2011 8:09:29 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: savedbygrace

Very good obscure Python fact. I’m impressed. Cleese was my favorite Python, but his tiresome support of Obama ruined it for me. Now he has the nerve to complain about London when he is partially to blame? Unreal.


33 posted on 04/29/2011 8:10:22 AM PDT by ReluctantDragon
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To: Eurotwit

Exactly what you said. It’s no longer English because of what liberal policies have done. They’ve created a large dependent class of native English and opened the doors to thousands/millions? that don’t have Western values and who are also on the dole. I’m sure there are still parts of England that are reminiscent of the England of old, but as a whole it’s been permanently marred by liberal policies. I have lots of family over there and I know one cousin has left for Spain—not sure of her reasons, and one male cousin would love to escape to the U.S. if he could. I like England being England—full of English, but like here, the liberals/leftists are (have) destroyed it.


34 posted on 04/29/2011 8:10:36 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: autumnraine
Why John Cleese! You must be a racist because you want to enjoy your own culture!

If John Cleese wishes to sit in Bath, England and criticize his own culture, more power to him. My problem is that every time I hear from the guy he is sitting comfortably in Los Angeles and criticizing ours.
35 posted on 04/29/2011 8:10:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He’s got a good case of Palin derangement going on too.


36 posted on 04/29/2011 8:11:08 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: savedbygrace

He actually lived or possibly still has a home in Montecito (rather than Monterey), a southern part of Santa Barbara, near where I live. Several famous Brits in Montecito!


37 posted on 04/29/2011 8:12:09 AM PDT by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: ReluctantDragon

I’m not sure whether he moved to Monterrey just so he could say he was Monterrey Jack Cheese, or could be if he changed his last name back to what it was, if if he was just the first to note it after he moved.

Yes, he is a political dolt.


38 posted on 04/29/2011 8:16:12 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Eurotwit

Thinking about it, it’s the same here and what the liberals do. How many have fled California because California is no longer California only to spread their disease to other parts of the country? Being on the left, means they never have to admit they’ve screwed up and they never apologize for being so very, very wrong. Enjoy Bath while you can Mr. Cleese. You are old enough now that you probably won’t have to see the day that Bath is no longer Bath—that outcome will be for the poor generations left behind to inherit.


39 posted on 04/29/2011 8:19:00 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Eurotwit

Agree... he supports the left, and the left actively sought this result. No tears for the talented, leftist, silly Mister Cleese.


40 posted on 04/29/2011 8:24:40 AM PDT by pogo101
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