Posted on 04/30/2011 8:37:33 PM PDT by Triple
Make clear that all divorce, child custody and property rights will be decided by the host country.
They are NOT, then “under the jurisdiction thereof” and therefor, NOT citizens.
Congress DOES have power to set the jurisdiction of the Courts.
Besides, Congress ALREADY has the right to set rules for citizenship.
“You cannot use anything on what Obama releases to prove something FOR or AGAINST him unless it is in original certified form as generated by the State of Hawaii.”
Well then read it right from hawaii.gov:
“On April 27, 2011 President Barack Obama posted a certified copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
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I’ll agree that by itself with the complicit congress and SC the father’s being an alien might not/probably will not fly on it’s own to remove him. However, it is another arrow in the quiver so to speak when all the hunting is done. The more factual arrows to shoot and available the better the chance of removing Obama from the POTUSA.
Hawaii officials are quoted saying they produced a photocopy on safety paper. If the photocopier was a black and white one...
The question still remains for me how the background of the orginal was removed.
His parentS were citizens THEREFORE he is a natural born citizen.
That is what it says. They are wrong. He wasn't born on a military base, he was born in a part of the canal zone that the U.S. had no jurisdiction. And being born in a FOREIGN COUNTRY, he can not be NBC.
The, parents in service to their country, idea gives you citizenship by birth, not Natural Born Citizenship.
They, like children , do what we allow them to do.
There are many Freepers that support Obama.
He states what is, not what is not.
Also, to use the word “parents” is not a problem to me, as he never made clear that BOTH had to be citizens, did he?
Again, you contradict yourself, as you have said that ANYONE of ANY PARENTAGE who is born on US soil is a citizen, and you wrongly cite the 14th Amendment. Well, dude, if that's the case, it would take another Amendment to undo it.
BTW, the latest Amendment to take effect took over 200 years to get there.
Oh, and if birthright citizenship was abolished no matter what the method, cities would go up en fuego.
The country was and is IGNORANT. We are trying to change that. Not a dead horse.
He most certainly did.
Now you've hit bottom. You're flat out lying.
Yes we do have something new. We have a document that Obama swears is real, is official, that states that his father is Barrak Obama. Now we can officially state that he is ineligible. If there really had been something unseemly such as an American citizen father (Frank Marshall), a man who was not Obama Sr., actually shown on the BC, there would only be a challenge to the authenticity of the document.
As it is now, the document may or may not be real, but the official declaration of Obama Sr. as the father makes Obama Jr. ineligible.
Accurate and correct. The resolution for McCain’s eligibility was a stalking horse for Obama and his enablers.
And it would be immediately challenged and go to the Supreme Court for final resolution.UNITED STATES V. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U. S. 649 (1898) and the 14th amendment would be among the precedents in such a case.
Ireland, the last country in Europe to have birthright citizenship had to pass a Constitutional amendment to abolish it. I suspect we would probably have to do the same. I certainly support Congress passing a law against it, but it would not be the final word.
I just don't want to fight on exactly the same hill that you want to order all of us to take.
At least, that is not the hill I wish to die on.
I think the birther issue has merit, on the location of birth, and the broader issue of Obama’s mysterious past and hidden documents.
However, I do not think the issue of his Father's Kenyan or British citizenship amounts to a hill of beans.
This is what it says using the opinion of Lawrence Tribe and Ted Olson.
“Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964.”
HMMMMM what operative condition do these guys share?
THEY WERE BORN ON U.S. SOIL. How is this a relevant example.
“We find it inconceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.”
He would have fulfilled the jus soli part because Hawaii was a U.S. Territory. WHO CARES, he wasn't born in 1958, he was born in 1961.
And Lawrence Tribe and Ted Olson are just WRONG.
No, you got the crap kicked out of you.
However, I do not think the issue of his Father's Kenyan or British citizenship amounts to a hill of beans.
We can't be held responsible for your ignorance.
McCain's mother, well both parents as both were citizens, were BOTH old enough to pass on citizenship at birth, even if born outside the United States.
McCain was a citizen at birth and therefor a Natural Born Citizen.
Obama can swear anything he wants...so long as it is not presented in “certified” form...it is simply a lie or hot air - not a forgery or fraud or perjury.
This is why he keeps releasing scans or copies of, NOT the actual DOH of Hawaii document that is generated with a seal when requested.
He can’t...because he would have to alter it to do so and THAT would put him under legal jeopardy.
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