Posted on 05/03/2011 4:46:53 AM PDT by Huck
DITTO!
I agree. Politicians (presidents) come and go. I don’t believe the Navy Seals would sacrifice their honor by supporting a farce for some politician.....
I am a scientist, trained in Cell and Molecular Biology, currently working in the field of Pharmacokinetics.
Before I went to graduate school I worked for a year as a DNA analyst for a company doing DNA ID work for Virginia to get all convicted felons DNA ID into the federal CODIS database. That was about 10 years ago.
I thought of starting a thread with that info, but figured...
those that want to know will find out, and I posted this on any thread I saw that mentioned DNA testing.
those that don’t want to know just get angry when accurate information conflicts with their complex conspiracy theories.
Wow, I totally agree with your post. Most excellent....uh, except for the photo. LOL
I remember thinking at the time that if you ever find yourself rooting against a U.S. military success, you're on the wrong side of that issue. Is your opinion really any different?
Sorry, but as much as I want this marxist out of the White House myself, I can't root against a U.S. military success, which this unquestionably was.
I remember thinking at the time that if you ever find yourself rooting against a U.S. military success, you're on the wrong side of that issue. Is your opinion really any different?
Sorry, but as much as I want this marxist out of the White House myself, I can't root against a U.S. military success, which this unquestionably was.
North Africa.
A "large minority"???
You've done the math? Show us your work.
And, just to add a little fun to the exercise, specify which FReeper you put into each category.
If necessary, start a new thread so this one doesn't get hijacked.
Holy crap, that’s an awesome post. Those who are scanning this thread, please read it.
Well said Wolf. Very well said.
On the one hand, I agree with much of your post. I am also very glad that OBL is gone. I am grateful to our intelligence agencies, our special forces, and even to the agency heads and Presidents who accomplished this.
However, Obama's statement, and the timing of the release of this information, was entirely political, and it was all about Obama taking credit for everything. He did take some political risks doing this action rather than using a JDAM or a drone attack and leveling the compound without ever knowing for sure if we got the target, or even who the target really was.
At no time in his statement did Obama say anything to share credit for this. There was no, "the previous administration started this, laid the foundation in intelligence and my administration was able to build on it and complete the mission." Obama's statement was all "I ... me .... I ...." According to the media (AKA the Democrat Party Propaganda Ministry), Bush couldn't get this done, and Obama did it all. That's not the truth, it's not the whole truth. That dishonest presentation divides the country, it doesn't unite.
Just compare Obama's statement to the statement from Bush, for example after Sadam Husein was captured. Bush never claimed full credit for the whole operation. Bush always focused any praise on the troops, and sometimes on the folks within his administration that made it happen, and on our United States as a whole. Bush made it a victory for everyone. Obama claimed OBL's demise as a victory for himself. That difference in focus is a big part of the problem.
On top of that, timing the announcement to preempt Trump's show, "Celebrity Apprentice," on Sunday night looked very petty. Obama and his handlers have had an obsession with derailing Trump in the past couple weeks. They showed this again with their "announcement" of this action.
A true leader and uniter would have done things differently. First, the announcement would have been made at the time that "proof" was released (pictures, DNA results, etc. Possibly to include making the body available for inspection and verification by any who might question the identification). And the announcement would have either been made more immediately (closer to the time of the actual action), and planned as part of the entire action, or later, when all questions could be answered and all proof could be presented. Finally, credit would have been shared with all involved, even those who preceded the current regime whose work contributed to the action. A leader would share credit with the entire team, and the entire country, not try to focus all the credit and praise on himself.
Just my observations.
from the response here, I’d say that it seems the negative oens are mostly a very vocal minority here.
It seems most of us agree with you.
It’s a rarity for me to post anything in the last bunch of years as the increase in the exclusive world of political discourse has reduced FR’s interest in morality (and the betterment of our once celebrated world standing as a nation) to a simple discussion of “who benefits from what”.
So to say you are surprised that we didn’t have a celebration, is only to attune yourself to the lies we need to weed through on a min to min basis.
Thank you for your service, and thank you as well for that great post. And unfortunately, the carping by conservatives wasn’t limited just to those who post on FR.
In the FR “early days”, VANITIES were not allowed, sniveling lectures are unseemly....and counterproductive.
Right. That’s the way it has to be for covert operations. It’s the nature of the beast. I’m not saying that they are doing anything out of the normal for this operation. The nature of the beast means that we will not hear first-story accounts from the people who did it.
I don’t believe that this is a faked episode but if it was we would not hear the actual participants calling out the leaders as lying about it, because they are sworn to secrecy. It’s the same reason that Janice Okubo has said nobody in their office could tell anybody - not even law enforcement - if Obama posted a forgery. They’re sworn to secrecy. Just like Obama is hiding behind supposed secrecy requirements for the HDOH, he could hide behind the secrecy requirements for the Seals. I don’t believe that is what he is doing, but I think that people need to realize that this great accountability that we trust to keep the leaders in line IS NOT THERE to the degree we think it is.
There are so many things that we cannot know, cannot see first-hand. This is why it is so critical that we trust the people who CAN see things first-hand and report it to us. Trust makes all the difference in the world. Trust is the difference between the day before the Sept 2008 run on the bank and the day after. Trust is the difference between a banana republic’s law enforcement and a non-banana republic’s. Trust is what makes the rape of a child such a horrendous thing; it is such a gross violation of trust.
Those who say that eligibility is a technicality don’t understand the basic nature of relationship and of society. He who is faithful in a little will be faithful in a lot. If this guy will forge a birth certificate, what else will he lie about? To be CINC means he has access to a lot of secrets that the rest of us can’t know; we have to just trust that he is looking out for our interests. He is driving us across the tightwire and all we can do is trust him. That is a scary, scary thing, when he has been so willing to break laws and lie in such a visible, documentable way.
I hope and pray that everybody is realizing why the Founders required the POTUS to have unimpeachable, undivided loyalty to this country.
Maybe we ought to say to the Obamaists, “We will wait until we verify,” not, “Trust but verify.”
“We’ve already had one photoshopped photo of a dead Osama.”
True. And did you see the link in post 250?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54162.html
So. In less than 48 hours we see conflicts and contradictions to the official White House “story.”
And people ricidule us because we don’t swallow the White House/MSM versions du jour?
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Therefore.......
Finish your thought.
Since you can never convince people who want to believe otherwise.......
Finish it.
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