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Bin Laden raid reveals another elusive target: a stealth helicopter
Los Angeles Times ^ | May 7, 2011 | By W.J. Hennigan and Ralph Vartabedian

Posted on 05/07/2011 4:34:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

When a U.S. military helicopter was destroyed in the backyard of Osama bin Laden's compound, it left not only a pile of smoldering wreckage but tantalizing evidence of a secret stealth chopper.

The quest for a helicopter that can slip behind enemy lines without being heard or detected by radar has been the Holy Grail of military aviation for decades and until this week nobody had thought such a craft existed.

But aviation experts are now convinced that the Pentagon may have developed such an aircraft. They say the U.S. military went to extraordinary lengths to protect its new technology by destroying a helicopter that had been damaged in the raid, either during the initial landing or in the subsequent evacuation.

A section of the craft also survived intact, and photos of it leave no doubt in analysts' minds that the U.S. had modified a MH-60 Black Hawk into some kind of super-secret stealth helicopter — the likes of which have never been seen before.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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Part of the helicopter that had a malfunction and was destroyed during the raid in which Osama bin Laden was killed is seen near the compound. Aviation experts believe the chopper had stealth capabilities. (Reuters)


1 posted on 05/07/2011 4:34:25 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The maintenance crew of that chopper have ALOT of explainin to do.


2 posted on 05/07/2011 4:38:23 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yet another example of the alien technology acquired via the crash at Roswell... ;-)


3 posted on 05/07/2011 4:39:39 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (e)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There was a video of our “friends” in Pakistan trucking the remaining parts off. Will they sell it to China for reverse engineering? Will the nobama regime get it back? Enquiring minds want to know. The WTF foreign policy at work?


4 posted on 05/07/2011 4:40:36 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: hal ogen

But of course, everyone can see that the helo was destroyed.

So what exactly was on fire in the video shown for a couple of days after the kill.

So much bull in so short a time. It’s got to be a record.


5 posted on 05/07/2011 4:47:07 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: hal ogen

It’s funny how our new inovations suddenly have problems over enemy territory


6 posted on 05/07/2011 4:48:22 AM PDT by South Dakota (shut up and drill)
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To: hal ogen
Why did the SEAL team was not ordered to destroy the Helicopter. If China buys that Copter we lost alot of technology
7 posted on 05/07/2011 4:48:34 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321

The first telling of the tale was that the helicopter was destroyed by the SEALs and we got to see the fire.

Now I’m wondering........what fire????

The revised stories from the ‘won’ put Baghdad Bob to shame.


8 posted on 05/07/2011 4:58:30 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: scooby321

Perhaps I have seen too many movies and thought that the helicopter would have been blown to smithereens at some point SO the enemy didn’t get the technology. This leaves me wondering if what I thought was truly “Hollywood” or what?


9 posted on 05/07/2011 4:58:35 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Carley

“But of course, everyone can see that the helo was destroyed.

So what exactly was on fire in the video shown for a couple of days after the kill”

huh? The helicopter was destroyed using explosives. The explosion probably tosses this piece out of the resulting fire.


10 posted on 05/07/2011 5:00:05 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KantianBurke

Report I read said it may have been a thermal anomaly and not mechanical failure that brought it down.


11 posted on 05/07/2011 5:08:04 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory; and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: KantianBurke

The pilot was to close to the retaining wall on landing, the tail boom struck the wall and snapped off. Everyone got out and proceeded with the mission. Unfortunately the tail boom ended up on the wrong side of the wall.


12 posted on 05/07/2011 5:11:54 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: driftdiver; Carley

FWIW, graphics I’ve seen show the tail slamming a wall and falling on the other side. The SEALs used thermite grenades etc to destroy the fuel-laden fuselage. The dry, fuel-less and relatively intact tail rotor section on the other side of the wall survived relatively intact. Burning it would have been very hard. It would have taken time to ensure it was completely destroyed (the tail section).


13 posted on 05/07/2011 5:12:18 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Navy SEALs: They'll shoot your eyes out.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Idiots at LA paper never read the report from the Pakistani, that putt out on the Internet when he heard, those silence helicopters coming in.LOL
14 posted on 05/07/2011 5:22:37 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

We seem to have trouble with choppers in high profile special ops raids under dem presidents. First Carter in Iran and now the bamster in Pakistan. Maintenance must be a problem under marxist regimes.


15 posted on 05/07/2011 5:37:23 AM PDT by Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
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To: KantianBurke

From everything I’ve read, it wasn’t a mechanical that brought the helo down. The landing area was very confined so the helicopter essentially stalled out in its own ground effects because of the walls.


16 posted on 05/07/2011 5:39:16 AM PDT by ChromeDome (Every person's death diminishes me. Some more than others.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is a must read for everyone.

Who gave the order to invade the Bin Laden compound???

17 posted on 05/07/2011 5:41:58 AM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
"We seem to have trouble with choppers in high profile special ops raids under dem presidents. First Carter in Iran and now the bamster in Pakistan."

Don't forget about Clinton in Mogadishu...

18 posted on 05/07/2011 5:42:12 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: scooby321

It’s going to take more than a few parts and some sections of metal to duplicate stealth tech. If it was that easy, China wouldn’t need to steal it. Just look at their recently revealed ‘stealth’ fighter. It has elements that looks a lot like our F22 Raptor, but it’s pretty much just looks, they dont have the thrust vectoring tech. BTW, this ‘revelation’ of a stealth helicopter is not a revelation. We’ve had a stealth attach helicopter for years called the Comanche. The only revelation is that we apparently have a ‘stealth transport’ helicopter now.


19 posted on 05/07/2011 5:57:11 AM PDT by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: LoneStarGI

I remember when an F-117 stealth fighter broke up and crashed in a suburban neighborhood near Balto. MD during an air show. The military blocked off the neighborhood until every bit of the plane had been removed.


20 posted on 05/07/2011 6:02:14 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: LoneStarGI
I recall they canceled the Comanche - hopefully only to the ears of the public.
21 posted on 05/07/2011 6:17:10 AM PDT by mcshot ("...of the people, by the people, for the people..." but we aren't "his people".)
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To: KantianBurke

No they don’t.


22 posted on 05/07/2011 6:19:17 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Ladies and Gentlemen the _resident of the untied States!!)
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To: central_va

Ah. That makes more sense. Thank you.


23 posted on 05/07/2011 7:11:42 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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To: hellbender

Remember the one that was shot down in serbia? Then about a week later one of our bombs blew the $hit out of the chinese embassy’s Garage in Serbia... because... um... our maps were not up to date... my bet is the same “accident” will happen in this case.


24 posted on 05/07/2011 7:32:11 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: hellbender
The military blocked off the neighborhood until every bit of the plane had been removed.

Pretty much SOP to prevent souvenir hunters from carting off critical fragments of the aircraft which might aid in determining what failed, causing the crash in the first place.

25 posted on 05/07/2011 8:27:57 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, maybe all those folks who were talking about ‘black helicopters’ weren’t so ‘nuts’ after all...


26 posted on 05/07/2011 8:29:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: KantianBurke

It was the WH version of events stating there was a mechanical failure.

Pakistanis say the rotor hit the wall as it was entering the compound.


27 posted on 05/07/2011 8:32:36 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: driftdiver
The helicopter was destroyed using explosives. The explosion probably tosses this piece out of the resulting fire.

Or you could believe the Pakistanis.

28 posted on 05/07/2011 8:34:52 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I thought it also had something to do with keeping the technology secret.


29 posted on 05/07/2011 9:04:54 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: School of Rational Thought

Believe the paks? Maybe not


30 posted on 05/07/2011 9:11:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: hellbender

I remember when an F-117 stealth fighter broke up and crashed in a suburban neighborhood near Balto. MD during an air show. The military blocked off the neighborhood until every bit of the plane had been removed.

I remember one that was shot down in Iraq. We never got that one back. The Chinese are probably still working on a clone.


31 posted on 05/07/2011 10:01:53 AM PDT by chainsaw ("The government cannot give to anyone anything that it does not first take from someone else.")
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To: hellbender
I'm sure keeping actual capabilities, especially the 'gee whiz' stuff, under wraps is important. Look at 'official' speeds, ranges, etc. and it's pretty much a given that some of the platforms involved exceed those stated capabilities. The question for our enemies is one of how much? Or are we exaggerating so they pump their money into R&D to beat a fable?

It is all part of the game.

However, when civillians claim to see such, maybe those who so handily deride them as nutcases will give that derision a second thought.

32 posted on 05/07/2011 10:17:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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I don’t understand - WHY did they leave that behind - what was the hurry? If it was that secret, couldn’t they have sent someone in to retrieve it?


33 posted on 05/07/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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