Skip to comments.Mark Steyn: Sarah Palin a better king maker than GOP candidate
Posted on 05/13/2011 6:17:38 PM PDT by Hojczyk
Mark Steyn says he has a soft spot for Tim Pawlenty and believes he may be the last man standing to challenge Obama in 2012. He also says Newt wont be President and that Trump isnt conservative and trashes his demonization of China as the single source of all that ails us.
As for Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin, Steyn says he wouldnt advise them to enter the field of 2012 GOP candidates. He says Sarah Palin would make a better king-maker and Huckabee should stick with his successful Fox News show.
I loved how T-Paw stood up to Franken and his Socialists when they attempted to steal the senate election.
Oh wait....T-Paw just stayed quiet in the corner and refused to stop the ongoing fraud and allowed Franken to be elected.
And some here think T-Paw will have the cajones to stand up to islamic and communist evil?
Steyn was born Canadian but lives in northern New Hampshire. I’m not sure if he’s an American citizen but he sure is an American patriot.
“Sarah would pile all up behind Cain. Everybody else would fall into place.”
His lack of experience was evident in the debate.....Witty little “How’s that workin’ for ya” phrases don’t work as well when there is no history of successfullly leading in the governmental sector as Palin has in Alaska.......Something just isn’t right with him in my book.....Just my opinion, but why pile up behind someone else when you can do a better job yourself?.....
YOU have NO idea what West will do.
Thank God he has only been in office a short time and we need to get him out of that CONgressional cesspool asap before the slime of that body has a chance to stick to him.
What we need, and are sadly lacking now and in all these so-called potential candidates, is LEADERSHIP.
LTC Allen West is not only a natural born citizen, he is a natural born LEADER!
LTC Allen West is a man of honesty and INTEGRITY...two more attributes missing in our current government make-up.
LTC Allen West is a man of HONOR, another attribute sorely missing on the political landscape today.
Congressman LTC Allen West for President 2012 West above the rest!
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West is the only one I could enthusiastically vote for in 2012!
God Bless Allen West!
Pan_Yan, he also had this to say:
If it be His will, it will be taken care of
Congressman LTC Allen West for President 2012 West above the rest!
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I was refering to Steyn;s take on Huckabee and Palin; I don’t share his take on T-Paw being presidential.
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Really? Which of the Bushes have chosen Daniels for 2012?
I keep seeing claims like this and references to the "Bush Machine" with absolutely no substance or proof to back the claim.
Please support your claim or I will assume y'all are just trying to keep the BDS Club going.
That`s the first stupid thing I ever heard Mark say!
Let's not go there, K?
2008 turned into the "who's most conservative" race to the point of ridiculous. When John McCain is called conservative, the word has lost all meaning.
DITTO! If HE chooses Sarah as his VP they would be unstoppable, IMHO.
I also see her as a “king maker” and if Sarah doesn’t see any “kings” to be made in the field, she’ll step in and take over.
Doubtless. Still in all, for future reference (in case you worry that others might find you as insipid as you do) for something to be "indiscernible" or "tortured," it has to deviate from a rational, simple, follow-the-dots path.
My explanation was very simple and easily followed progression which I have explained to several dozen bloggers here on FR and elsewhere. My seven-year-old neice gets it. Only you have thus far professed a (patently disingenuous) inablitity to follow it. Perhaps you feel that by "playing stupid," people will assume that, in fact, you aren't. Wrong again.
I can't help you with your envy over my Freeper logon except to say that we all makes our choices, and then we accepts the consequences. Huh, Boozer?
Endure if you can. Give up if you must. But from here on out, you're on your own.
LOL. Kinda like this?
That’s my take on it too, ak267.
That attitude really ticks me off!
They want to use her for their advantage, but don’t want her upsetting their playhouse.
After all of the hard work, risks, and money she has spent the last 3 years (not to mention the efforts she will put in on her campaign) she deserves first crack at the prize.
Mark Steyn is a Lefty???
Will "Lefty" do? See post #27.
Mark Steyn lives in New Hampshire but I don’t know anything about his citizenship - you’re probably right. But he speaks with such an odd accent - sorta Australian with a hint of British and a hint of American. A man of the world!
Great point! I think that Pawlenty allowing the Coleman election to be stolen from right under his nose tells me all I need to know about him (TPaw). I can’t recall even a whimper from him about all the skulduggery in Minnesota which gave Franken his illicit seat. Bob
I am sick and afraid of the majority of republicans - including most Freepers - who are baa-baahing right along behind the bell wether sheep - ie., the same old pattern of letting the Establishment choose which candidates we will have to choose from...of “Whose ‘turn’ is it?”
I do not see ONE person in that lack luster list of candidates that stands much of a chance. THIS time, we need a candidate we can truly and enthusiastically get behind. The only good thing about mcPain’s run last time was that he introduced us to SARAH.
Time - LAST CHANCE - for WE The People to put up our candidate. We need to pick a proven leader, from OUTSIDE the career politicians.
We stand together or we fall apart. mt
I truly believe that the time and the man have met...that God has a hand in bringing this man to this place at this time.
But God forces no one to do His Will or to take His Guidance. He presents - we must choose.
I pray we are wise enough to choose wisely.
If we don't, we're going to run aground. And, like Russia after the Revolution, it will take 80 years or more to see freedom's light again.
I agree. (Although I don’t think that’s how Steyn means it.)
I don’t see why Sarah Palin can’t do both: Be in the race and then, if she doesn’t win it, eventually be a KING(?)maker. (What’s up with the assumption that it’s inevitble that only a man can win? Why can’t she be a Queen maker?)
Everyone and anyone who wants to go for it should be welcomed.
I know, I usually don’t even bother. PDS goes both ways, and it’s not pretty at either end.
I agree. West is the only one (besides Sarah) that I really believe in. I know West has said he isn’t going to run, and I don’t know what Sarah will do, but I keep praying.
Keep the faith ;o)
he hasn't said he won't run. He just isn't running YET.
He has NOT ruled it out. He realizes that there is a huge groundswell for him to run.
Listen to him here when he responds to an audience asking him to run. Listen carefully to the last sentence - and KEEP PRAYING ;o)
Elections are won by TAKING THE MIDDLE not by pandering to it. Hell folks, the middle never knows what it wants Conservatism or Socialism theyll vote for either one unless you give them a reason to vote CONSERVATIVE.
And to do that you need a Conservative Candidate. Reagan wasnt a squishy middle guy yet he beat Carter and Mondale in friggin LANDSLIDES because Reagan WON THE MIDDLE OVER TO HIM. You dont win the middle by trying to reflect THEIR views they dont know what their views are thats why theyre in the middle.
OK, it looks like folks are still sipping the media cool-aid. Obama can't even appear in front of school kids with a script and a teleprompter...Secondly, he would not be bound to libtard "speech codes" that made McStain sound like a bumbling eunuch in 2008. I think when conservatives get a chance to see and hear Cain (free of media filters of course) they will quickly see how strong he really is and how vain, condescending and just plain arrogant Obama is.
Get Obama away from his handlers and cheering section and is just another failed lawyer hawking 1940's FDR screeds. Also, Cain can effectively articulate conservative points and do it BETTER than Obama can hawk liberals. I think folks are mistaking the lackluster but sincere Ambassador Keyes. Keyes, does have conservatives principles and beliefs but cannot present them with charisma.
As you know it is in the interests of the libtards to paint Obama as a fantastic speaker and totally unbeatable. This is a lie that far to many pubbies (and sadly too many conservatives) have swallowed. They know that Obama is the second coming of Jimmy Carter (with out his knowledge or skill I might add), and must weaken the Republican field, regardless of who might be our future nominee. We need to focus on Obama's record and weaken his campaign. That will take real courage and leadership and the recognition that the election will be a down and dirty street fight. For too long we have had quaint gentlemen fighting by Marquis of Queensbury rules against Mike Tyson. Our guy needs to be a UFC/MMA scrapper that will challenge everything that comes out of the left and not passively agree with their points in the name of "bipartisanship"
The point was that she does not yet have enough political capital to get elected in a general election, IMO.
I like her, but even good conservatives like my parents balk at the idea of President Palin. That’s because she doesn’t have the clout to overcome the lies the entire Washington press corps touts about her daily.
Ok...so if it was Palin vs. Obama....U and your parents would vote for Obama??....
If she runs...U Hand-wringers will just have to stay in the truck...The real conservatives will do the heavy lifting..,,
Of course I’d vote for Palin. She was the only reason I was glad to vote for the McCain ticket.
“If she runs...U Hand-wringers will just have to stay in the truck...The real conservatives will do the heavy lifting..”
This is what I really hate about what is becoming of Freerepublic. If you don’t believe anything can be made of the birth certificate issue anymore, you’re not a “real conservative.” If you think Palin would have a hard time overcoming the overwhelming bias against her in the press and might have trouble in the general election, you’re not a “real conservative.” Soon it will be that if you don’t believe in young earth creationism, you aren’t a “real conservative.”
I’d hate to see this forum adopt the cult of personality, monolithic group-think apologist methods of which the democrats are so fond. I like debate, but this forum is becoming less about debate and more about sputtering out “Agree with me or you’re not a REAL CONSERVATIVE!”
For the record, I’d wet myself with joy if Jim Demint ran. THERE’S a conservative I could get behind. As it is, I might have to settle for someone like Cain in the near term. Not sure yet. I support Palin, but I doubt she can win given the fact that many Americans don’t take the time to educate themselves against the lies of the MSM.
Yeah right....lol...We don't need a President that's proved right time after time...We need a pundit....Geez.
Well-put and worth-repeating bump.
Your complaint is reasonable on the surface, but the problem for people on your side of the Sarah-stay-home fence is that you are allowing the very Red MSM to exercise a positive veto over anyone they don't like.
So far the MSM have used their "politics of personal destruction" to destroy Joe McCarthy (who was right, and the Venona documents proved it), Barry Goldwater, Richard Nixon, Newt Gingrich, and -- *IF* you accede to their calumnies -- Sarah Palin.
Can you name anyone on the Right that the 95%-communist, frequently homosexual bigots of the MSM would not strain every nerve to destroy in like manner?
Keep in mind that their power is fading -- and their microphones rusting away in their hands -- as the People begin to sense what is being done to them by these Judas servants.
I wonder what Sarah is waiting for. It's a dangerous game.
In 2007, McCain jumped big and splashy with his summer tour-bus gig, the "Straight Talk Express". Four months later, the bus was back in the motor pool and McCain, out of money, was taking cabs to events. He was arguably "too early".
At the same time, Fred Thompson was restrained by contract obligations (and attendant legal liability) to NBC from declaring, and didn't enter the race until fall 2007 -- by which time it was too late. What little early money was available had already been handed out (as the big contributors, anticipating Hildebeast's inevitability, went on strike and busied themselves loading their yachts with gold for the inevitable voyage to Grand Cayman), and Fred never got any attention or backing, notwithstanding that he was probably the most presidential man in the field.
What's she waiting for, do you think?
Actually, "inane" isn't quite the right word -- vain, maybe, in the sense of "empty" -- but the purpose of people who put that meme around is quite concrete. Sarah, they say (sotto voce), should just go away and let People Like Us, the truly anointed of the Party, run everything -- now, who's got "next"?
But you're right, that's the mentality that gave us Gerald Ford, Bob Dole, John McCain, and yes, George W. Bush, too. At least Bush turned out to be better than most -- although he was never "not" a member of the Yacht Club.
How about, rooms and rooms full of Rahm Emanuel's nasty little life-lacking, Twinkies-hogging, Chunky-stuffing, Jolt-chugging pimply little ankle-biting "RatRoots" toiling 28 hours a day, disseminating disinformation, discouragement, and dissension on conservative websites? Spreading Sarah-hate through every corner of the known universe, on a Mission from
Well-put bump. Yellow stripes and dead armadillos.
There is only one way to develop that kind of muscle, and that is to roll one's sleeves up and start swinging.
Work makes muscle and progress. She's a worker and a fighter, and moral midgets like Max Blumenthal and Richard Cohen don't faze her (sic, not "phase" or other misspellings </edit>).
She may see fit to ask West to consider a cabinet level position if more than a handful of voters express support for him once all his views are better known. I doubt he'd even make a good VP until he at least gets his feet wet in the political arena. I mean, he's been in Congress what, four months?
Yeah, that’s what I thought. You got nothing but hot air.
People who throw around the title King Maker like it means something are morons.
Jim Robinson says “FreeRepublic is Palin Country.” FreeRepublic took a President 2012 poll of all Freepers a couple months ago. Palin won with something like 82%.
Please stop using popular Palin threads to foist your not-yet third-tier wannabe on Sarah's supporters. It only pisses us off.
247 posted on Sunday, May 15, 2011 10:39:26 PM by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ “Going Oval”)
WTH is your problem? What did I ever do to you? Frankly, I don't recall ever having any interaction with you in the 6+ years I've been here. I certainly was not the only one posting about other candidates on this thread, and NOTHING I said was against Sarah Palin. Fact is, I like her a great deal and will certainly vote for her again this election if she is the nominee.
Meanwhile, the next time YOU deem a thread to be a “popular Palin thread” you should note that in the title so everyone is aware they are not to mention anyone else’s name. No, scratch that everyone...do it so “I” will be aware since I seem to be the only one you have a problem with.
It is folks like you who are driving others away from this site and we wonder why it takes so long to end the FReepathons.
If Jim wants me gone all he has to do his FRmail me and I will vanish. I've done it of my own volition before — when things became so disgusting around here during the last presidential election.
So...what say you Jim Robinson?