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Jewish Donors Outraged by 'Sociopath' Obama, Says Columnist
israel national news ^ | 5/18/11 | Gil Ronen

Posted on 05/18/2011 5:19:14 PM PDT by Nachum

If senior journalist David Goldman is right, the correct word for describing the way a growing number of US Jews feel about President Barack Obama is not 'anger' but 'rage' – white-hot rage, at that, and a conviction that they have been swindled.

Goldman, Senior Editor of First Things magazine and 'Spengler' columnist for Asia Times Online, spoke last week at a convention on intellectuals and terror at Ariel University in Samaria. In his lecture, he quoted a top Jewish campaign donor who used the word 'sociopath' to describe Obama. In an interview with Israel National News, he predicted a possibly dramatic 'train wreck' for the Democrats in the November mid-term elections, with Jewish fundraising for Democrats drying up and a possibly high turnout of anti-Obama evangelical Christians.

INN: The recent McLaughlin group poll shows US Jewish support of Obama at about half its level in the 2008 election. Is this an accurate reflection of the mood among US Jews?

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...


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To: School of Rational Thought

BS. There are plenty of conservative Jews right on this forum including myself (well, born Jewish anyway). Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein? Please do not lump us in with lefty Jews who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all.


81 posted on 05/19/2011 9:41:44 AM PDT by ariamne (Proud shieldmaiden of the infidel--never forget, never forgive 9/11)
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To: Jewbacca

An apology for your irrational personal attacks would be more appropriate.


82 posted on 05/19/2011 9:43:28 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: ariamne; School of Rational Thought
Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein?

Or playwright David Mamet?

83 posted on 05/19/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: ariamne
BS. There are plenty of conservative Jews right on this forum including myself (well, born Jewish anyway). Ever hear of Mark Levin? David Horowitz? Ben Stein? Please do not lump us in with lefty Jews who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all.

Jews are leftists first, Jews second (not withstanding Jews who are not leftists and those who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all)

84 posted on 05/19/2011 10:12:27 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: MacMattico
>>>I am not Jewish, but I don’t understand why any Jew would support him.<<<<

They are JINOs.

85 posted on 05/19/2011 11:13:20 AM PDT by DTA (U.S. Centcom vs. U.S. AFRICOM)
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To: PapaBear3625

Maybe I read that wrong, but apples-to-apples (Pew defense to Pew overall population), it looks like 1.7% and 1.7%.


86 posted on 05/19/2011 11:57:16 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: School of Rational Thought

“Jews are leftists first, Jews second”

I am? This whole time of voting Republican and donating to FR must have been a mistake.


87 posted on 05/19/2011 11:59:08 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
In Table 1 in the link, the "DEOMI" column(1.09%) is from a survey of service members, the DMDC (0.32%) comes from what service members indicate on their paperwork as their religious preference. The remaining two columns (1.17 and 1.7%) are from surveys of civilians, and so indicate the percent of Jews in the civilian population).

The large discrepancy between the two military figures (1.09 versus 0.32) may represent how many people consider themselves ethnically Jewish versus how many consider themselves actually as believing Jews.

88 posted on 05/19/2011 12:31:24 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Jewbacca; ansel12
Here are some of the figures. The increasingly Romanized Air Force removed the page since 2006. I'll find new links and more info.

https://www.patrick.af.mil/deomi/Observances%20&%20Demographics/Additional%20Resources/Review%20of%20Data/Jewish%20Americans/rodj95.htm
Review of Data on Jewish Americans
(United States Air Force--citations on the Web page)
World War II

A summary of the war record of Jewish-American participants in World War II

Total population of the United
States.............................................135,000,000

Total Jewish population of the United
States.................................................4,500,000

Total number in the Armed Forces of the
U.S..................................................13,000,000

Jews serving in the Armed Forces of the
U.S.......................................................550,000

Percentage of Jews in the total
population...............................................3.33%

Percentage of Jews in the Armed
Forces......................................................4.23%

89 posted on 05/19/2011 2:29:17 PM PDT by familyop (Noachide follower. Not so Chassid, but mean enough.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Jews are leftists first, Jews second (not withstanding Jews who are not leftists and those who are Jewish only by heritage and have no religion or love of God or country at all) Not valid in California or North Dakota.


90 posted on 05/19/2011 2:37:56 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Get the BO out of the Executive Mansion.)
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To: familyop

Everyone knows that Jews served in the draft military of WWII, in fact 1 out of 3 Dentists and Doctors in the military were Jewish in WWII.

WWII with it’s massive draft where all branches drafted and the Army reached 97% draftees is definitely well known by everyone as having Jews well represented in it.


91 posted on 05/19/2011 2:43:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: PapaBear3625; Jewbacca; ansel12

There were higher percentages of Jews in proportion to their population percentages in the US military forces in most wars than others. On contemporary participation in the armed forces, I wouldn’t join now, either. I won’t even buy enough products or services to generate much in the way of revenues for this polytheistic debt regime.

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92 posted on 05/19/2011 2:48:04 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: Nachum

This article is over a year old. (5/12/2010)


93 posted on 05/19/2011 2:54:06 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: familyop

No, Jews aren’t much for military service, that is why WWII is constantly used to give the impression that they flock to the recruiters.


94 posted on 05/19/2011 2:58:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: PapaBear3625; Jewbacca; ansel12

It’s likely that more Jews (large Sephardic community) fought the British in the American Revolution than Catholics. From the first federal census of 1790, Catholics comprised only about 6/10ths of a percent (0.6%) of the population of the thirteen original colonies (about 25,000 out of 3,939,000).

The number, 25,000 (Catholics), is from John Carroll (bishop), 1785.
First federal census:
http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.html

“The six inquiries in 1790 called for the name of the head of the family and the number of persons in each household.”
(Census Bureau, 01 Jan 2011)
http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.html


95 posted on 05/19/2011 3:01:43 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: familyop

What in the world does that have to do with the fact that Jews don’t much go for military service?

Going from Obama being President to a tiny Catholic population in 1790 is bizarre.


96 posted on 05/19/2011 3:10:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: familyop; ansel12; Jewbacca
The reason why there is a discrepancy in viewpoint is that you and Jewbacca are talking about historical times (WW2 and before) while ansel12 and I are talking about present time.

If we restrict the discussion to post-WW2, and particularly the Vietnam era and later, there is NOT a trend for Jews to join the military in excess to their population percent. My opinion is that a population segment which disproportionately identifies with the Left seems less likely to join a military which, after WW2, was engaged in fighting Communist and Leftist regimes.

97 posted on 05/19/2011 3:20:17 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: familyop

I’ve refuted his lies over-and-over, but like shoa-deniers, he just ignores facts.

Just some random color:

The Revolutionary War would have been lost but for George Washington’s friend Haym Solomon.

Commodore Uriah P. Levy compltely raised hell with the Brits in 1812.

The Confederate Secretary of War was Judah Philip Benjamin.

The 82nd Illinois (made famous in the Battle of Gettysburg) was comprised primarily of Jewish soldiers and led by Gen. Edward Selig Salomon, a Jew. He had two horses shot out from under him. Jewish blood was no small part of what made Gettysburg “hallowed ground.”

Hyman G. Rickover needs no introduction.

Admiral Jeremy Michael Boorda -— only Chief of Navel Operations to have risen to the position from the enlisted ranks. (He dropped out of HS and joined the Navy at 17.)

Etc.


98 posted on 05/19/2011 3:28:00 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca; familyop; ansel12
With all this arguing back-and-forth about Jews and the military, why has no one mentioned Yehoshu`a Bin Nun, David HaMelekh, or Yehudah (Maccabee)? What about the numerous wars recorded in the Bible? What about Sefer Milchamot HaShem (the Book of the Wars of HaShem), or for that matter the rebellions of the Zealots or Bar Kokhba'? Don't they count as Jews?

I don't get this almost universal tendency to de-Judaify ancient Jews because they don't meet modern Jewish stereotypes based on the Galut.

99 posted on 05/19/2011 3:33:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu.)
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To: Jewbacca

Jewbacca, you get hysterical, personal, and angry but you never refute anything, you merely attack.


100 posted on 05/19/2011 3:35:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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