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Goodbye, New York - State residents are rushing for the exits.
City Journal ^ | 24 May 2011 | Fred Siegel

Posted on 05/27/2011 3:16:11 PM PDT by neverdem

For more than 15 years, New York State has led the country in domestic outmigration: for every American who comes to New York, roughly two depart for other states. This outmigration slowed briefly following the onset of the Great Recession. But a new Marist poll released last week suggests that the rate is likely to increase: 36 percent of New Yorkers under 30 are planning to leave over the next five years. Why are all these people fleeing?

For one thing, according to a recent survey in Chief Executive, New York State has the second-worst business climate in the country. (Only California ranks lower.) People go where the jobs are, so when a state repels businesses, it repels residents, too. It’s also telling that in the Marist poll, 62 percent of New Yorkers planning to leave cited economic factors—including cost of living (30 percent), taxes (19 percent), and the job environment (10 percent)—as the primary reason.

In upstate New York, a big part of the problem is extraordinarily high property taxes. New York has the 15 highest-taxed counties in the country, including Nassau and Westchester, which rank first and second nationwide. Most of the property tax goes toward paying the state’s Medicaid bill—which is unlikely to diminish, since the state’s most powerful lobby, the political cartel created by the alliance of the hospital workers’ union and hospital management, has gone unchallenged by new governor Andrew Cuomo.

New York City doesn’t suffer from outmigration to the extent that the state does; in fact, the city grew slightly over the past decade, thanks to immigration. And there’s more work in Gotham than in the state as a whole. The problem is that the kind of work available shows that the city accommodates new immigrants much better than it supports middle-class aspirations. A recent report from the Drum Major Institute helps make sense of the Marist numbers: “The two fastest-growing industries in New York are also the lowest paid. More than half of the city’s employment growth over the past year has been in retail, hospitality, and food services, all of which pay their workers less than half of the city’s average wage.” Worse yet, more than 80 percent of the new jobs are in the city’s five lowest-paying sectors. Parts of the country are seeing a revival of manufacturing—traditionally a source of upward mobility for immigrants—but not New York City, whose manufacturing continues to decline. The culprits here include the city’s zoning policies, business taxes, and declining physical infrastructure.

Then there’s the cost of living in New York City. A 2009 report by the Center for an Urban Future found that “a New Yorker would have to make $123,322 a year to have the same standard of living as someone making $50,000 in Houston. In Manhattan, a $60,000 salary is equivalent to someone making $26,092 in Atlanta.” Even Queens, the report found, was the fifth most expensive urban area in the country.

The implications of Gotham’s hourglass economy—with all the action on the top and bottom, and not much in the middle—are daunting. The Drum Major report, which noted that 31 percent of the adults employed in New York work at low-wage labor, came with a political agenda. The institute wants the city to subsidize new categories of work by expanding the scope of “living-wage” laws, which require higher pay than minimum-wage laws do, to all businesses that receive city funds or contracts. But that would mean higher taxes for the middle class and a further narrowing of the hourglass’s midsection.

Governor Cuomo is calling for a property-tax cap, but without “mandate relief” for localities—for example, relaxing state laws that require localities to pay out exorbitant pension benefits. Mayor Michael Bloomberg has pledged not to increase local taxes, but even at their current level, city taxes and regulations will keep serving as an exit sign for aspiring twentysomething workers. In short, we can expect New York to lead the country in outmigration for the near future.

Fred Siegel is a contributing editor of City Journal, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, and a scholar in residence at St. Francis College in Brooklyn.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: neverdem

When the last non-public employee leaves, what will they do; just sit around passing a dollar bill back and forth.


21 posted on 05/27/2011 3:56:27 PM PDT by reg45
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To: neverdem
Didn't the governor of NY actually say something along the lines of "good riddance to Rush Limbaugh" when he move to FL? I guess they're glad to see his tax revenues go too.

Mark

22 posted on 05/27/2011 4:01:44 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: drypowder

“One thing for sure, they won’t be going to Kalifornia.”

Nor to Maryland. High taxes of every type, soaring crime, major road congestion and hopelessly Democratic.


23 posted on 05/27/2011 4:06:48 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: kevman
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24 posted on 05/27/2011 4:08:40 PM PDT by onona (Yes, my state does suck ! No wait, the POLITICIANS and LIBERALS in my state suck)
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To: tflabo

I just can’t get past the feeling that liberals are creating these 3rd world hellholes to force emigration in order to spread their poison to the rest of the country.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 4:22:30 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: neverdem

No. 2, an influx of FOREIGNERS.


26 posted on 05/27/2011 4:25:47 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: neverdem

“Outmigration” is not a word. The word he needs is emigration which means to migrate or move away from. Journalists these days.


27 posted on 05/27/2011 4:29:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The down side of all the NY libtards leaving is they spread their liberal poison to the states they pick. Frankly, I wish they would stay put and stew in their leftist juices.


28 posted on 05/27/2011 5:01:15 PM PDT by mrvirgo
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To: Mr. K

New Yuck, New Yuck. Overpriced and overrated. Ex-Long Islander here as well.


29 posted on 05/27/2011 5:19:22 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: neverdem

They’re being allowed into other states?


30 posted on 05/27/2011 5:20:16 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: Starboard

I’ve heard that Vermont became very liberal years ago, due to so many New Yorkers moving there and overwhelming the politics of the state.

Howard Dean was one such transplant to Vermont.


31 posted on 05/27/2011 5:24:40 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mewzilla

Thanks for the link.


32 posted on 05/27/2011 5:31:55 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

So how does that explain VT’s gun laws?


33 posted on 05/27/2011 6:00:55 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MarkL
"Didn't the governor of NY actually say something along the lines of "good riddance to Rush Limbaugh" when he move to FL? I guess they're glad to see his tax revenues go too."

Don't worry, they found a way to fill Rush's "outmigration". They're attacking landlords with violations with is connected with a lot of bureaucracy. Every single dept is going to profit from that one violation and thus keep the lazy gov people paid.

When you walk down the streets of NYC and see a shed, or scaffolding in front of a building, it's not because the landlord placed it there or decided to renew their facade. Most of them are still paying for the winter's fuel bill, so why spend money on having a building painted or resurfaced? It's a useless violation. Meanwhile the workers hired to do the facade will take as much time as possible to do their job. Those sheds cost an arm & a leg monthly. Insurance goes up. Bank loans applied for. Lawyers need to be hired, architects, engineers, electricians... the list goes on.

Yeah, NYC is bankrupting the landlords just so the lowly workers have a job. The landlords are forced to create the o'bama promised shovel ready jobs.

Yeah, great idea NYC to get rid of the wealthy.

34 posted on 05/27/2011 6:14:38 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: FatherofFive

“I just wish they would stop voting for Democrats after they leave.”

We ‘upstaters’ are loving it!

Many thanks for taking our weak-minded libs under your wing. Give ‘em hell y’all.


35 posted on 05/27/2011 6:33:51 PM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: neverdem
I "Escaped from NY" in 1983 but returned to finish college only to escape for good in 1990 never to return (other than funerals and visiting nieces and nephews)


Lets see how many ex-NY-ers this thread can generate LOL!!!

36 posted on 05/27/2011 7:13:30 PM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER 2012 from my house....)
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To: Terabitten

Not sophisticated enough. You sound like a dummy when you say emigrate, but outmigration an idiot can understand. ;-]


37 posted on 05/27/2011 7:23:59 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: katnip
being a native NY stater, I feel bad for what my beloved state has become....its an beatutiful state...the Finger Lakes...the Catskills....the Adirondacks and the Alleghenny area....not huge mountains like the Rockies, but beautiful with lots of lakes, rivers, lots and lots of forests and many farmlands....

a wonderful mix...or used to be...of immigrants....

large university system and many private colleges to match up with anyone...

home of IBM.....

and yet they just couldn't stop themselves from ruining it....my sister is part of the problem...retired for several years from teaching....they can't afford any more of her...

similar in many ways to California...another gorgeous state being ruined...

38 posted on 05/27/2011 8:36:55 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Steely Tom

where do you live Tom?


39 posted on 05/27/2011 8:37:43 PM PDT by cherry
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To: neverdem
You don't want Texas, New Yorkers.
Hoards of mosquito's and roaches, tornadoes, hurricanes, never rains, hot weather...
40 posted on 05/27/2011 9:13:09 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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