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Couple's gender secret for baby touches off debate
AP ^ | May 27, 2011

Posted on 05/28/2011 7:47:27 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

NEW YORK – Ridiculous or ultra-enlightened? A Toronto couple's decision to keep the gender of their 4-month-old baby a secret has touched off a sometimes nasty debate over how far parents should go in protecting young ones from society's boy-girl biases.

Kathy Witterick and David Stocker recently landed on the front page of the Toronto Star, explaining that they hope their third child, Storm, can remain untouched by the connotations of pink versus blue, male versus female, long enough to make up his or her own mind.

The decision has online haters and supporters of the family on hyperdrive. Child development experts, meanwhile, question the impact on the cherubic infant later in life and whether the couple has gone too far in their quest for gender neutrality.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: child; childabuse; family; gender; homosexualagenda; moralabsolutes
I wonder if the child gets to pick what time he/she/it gets to go to sleep at night, too.
1 posted on 05/28/2011 7:47:32 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

These people are idiots.

Perverted idiots.


2 posted on 05/28/2011 7:49:01 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s Pat!


3 posted on 05/28/2011 7:50:31 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s Pat!


4 posted on 05/28/2011 7:50:45 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: ConservativeStatement

It’s Pat!


5 posted on 05/28/2011 7:51:00 AM PDT by Notasoccermom
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To: ConservativeStatement

“how far parents should go in protecting young ones from society’s boy-girl biases.”

Speaking of bias....


6 posted on 05/28/2011 7:51:41 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Westbrook

Some people should not be parents.


7 posted on 05/28/2011 7:52:25 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ConservativeStatement

I thought all Canadians were gender secret.


8 posted on 05/28/2011 7:53:28 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Lets hope that “it” will be so confused that it won’t procreate.

If anything is absolutely true, it is the fact that if you don’t procreate, your lineage will die out.

Natural Selection.


9 posted on 05/28/2011 7:54:17 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ConservativeStatement

Ridiculous or enlightened? How about cruel and perverted.


10 posted on 05/28/2011 7:54:24 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Kathy Witterick and David Stocker... hope their third child, Storm, can remain untouched by the connotations of pink versus blue, male versus female, long enough to make up his or her own mind.

I'd bet money that in the Witterick household, David is forced to pee sitting down.

11 posted on 05/28/2011 7:54:50 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: ConservativeStatement

>>long enough to make up his or her own mind.

And on that glorious day, a penis or vagina will magically appear on baby Storm (or wil it be toddler Storm, or pre-teen Storm, or teenager Storm, or even adult baby Storm?).


12 posted on 05/28/2011 7:58:48 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (We don't need to win elections. We need to win a revolution.)
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To: Gena Bukin

If a boy, maybe they dress him in girls clothes to see if he feels more comfy.


13 posted on 05/28/2011 7:59:41 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
"Soon after the baby was born, in a pool of water at home, Witterick, 38, and Stocker, 39, sent an email announcing to loved ones: "We've decided not to share Storm's sex for now — a tribute to freedom and choice in place of limitation, a stand up to what the world could become in Storm's lifetime (a more progressive place? ...)."


WTF?
(Liberalism is a mental disorder)

14 posted on 05/28/2011 8:00:36 AM PDT by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Westbrook

More modern mental illness.


15 posted on 05/28/2011 8:01:06 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: dhs12345
Lets hope that “it” will be so confused that it won’t procreate.

None of this is the kid's fault. Really, it's the parents who shouldn't be allowed to procreate. Can anyone else see years of intense psycho therapy in this poor kid's future?

Like Savage always says, "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder."

16 posted on 05/28/2011 8:04:21 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: ConservativeStatement
patsnl
17 posted on 05/28/2011 8:12:16 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: YankeeReb

But that is nature and natural selection.

In the wild, the children don’t survive if the parents are stupid.

It is ironic that secularist Liberals believe in natural selection... except when it applies to them.


18 posted on 05/28/2011 8:18:11 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: ConservativeStatement

“The decision has online haters and supporters of the family on hyperdrive.”

No bias in this reporter. I thought the antonym of “supporter” was “opponent.”

My Bad.


19 posted on 05/28/2011 8:25:37 AM PDT by paterfamilias
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“Speaking of bias....”

Good point! And I’m sure they’ve embraced and flaunted their preconceived “holy, higher planed enlightenment” everywhere anyone will give them the attention. Idiots.


20 posted on 05/28/2011 8:38:21 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

When the boy beats up his wuss of a father, the judge should be very lenient.


21 posted on 05/28/2011 8:45:05 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: ConservativeStatement

Should liberals be allowed to reproduce?


22 posted on 05/28/2011 8:57:19 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: ConservativeStatement
More of the Time Magazine story from the 70’s. Graduating high school in 1969 and being at the forefront of the ‘Women's Empowerment’ movement, I used to believe that children were born rather ‘gender neutral’. Then I gave birth to a son. He has been all boy from day one. Psychologists are doing a great disservice to children when they pretend that everything is acceptable, no matter who you think you are. It is a neurosis that might be treatable if the Doctors would get off the ‘I'm ok, you're ok no matter who you think you are’ mantra. I read there is an inordinate number of suicides in ‘transgendered people’ No surprise. Maybe they are treatable. The Doctors should try, at least.
23 posted on 05/28/2011 9:01:51 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Bryanw92
or wil it be toddler Storm, or pre-teen Storm, or teenager Storm, or even adult baby Storm?).

Probably "carbon-based lifeform known as Storm"

24 posted on 05/28/2011 9:04:28 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. -- John Steinbeck)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Odds are, once the kid begins to play everyone will know if it’s a boy or a girl. Boys play in a certain way, girls another. The Feminists found that out, to their chagrin.

Nature can be delayed, but not stopped without serious damge.


25 posted on 05/28/2011 9:09:10 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: ConservativeStatement

This is child abuse wrapped up in lame political grandstanding.


26 posted on 05/28/2011 9:16:46 AM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

One can only deny or ignore reality for just so long, sooner or later it will bite you in the butt! It will be close, nipping at your ankles every step you take in your denial, before it does.


27 posted on 05/28/2011 9:29:46 AM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Who will protect society from abusive parents like these?


28 posted on 05/28/2011 9:34:13 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA, DO YOU HEAR ME NOW.......'67 BORDERS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN)
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To: ConservativeStatement

There are times when the state should remove a child from the parents.

Fortunately, those times are rare.

However, this is one of those times.

Get that poor baby out of the hands of these cretins...and then we can send them to the West Wing where they will blend right in.


29 posted on 05/28/2011 9:41:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

A child’s removal from parents should be rare. It should be for cases of physical or sexual abuse. If you start removing children because the parents are weirdos and the kids are going to be screwed up, you won’t have enough normal families to foster them. In fact, there aren’t enough normal families now to foster all the children that are unnecessarily placed in the system. What do you get then? Poorly vetted homes and almost a guarantee that these children will be physically or sexually abused in the system.

These parents obviously love their children and think they are doing what is best for them. The children will be messed up but they aren’t being abused (so far as we can tell from the article). They are being taught the mixed up liberal values of their parents.


30 posted on 05/28/2011 9:52:44 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: ConservativeStatement

Babysitter should snake in in the middle of the night with an “it’s a ____” sign.Poor kid.


31 posted on 05/28/2011 9:55:42 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: ConservativeStatement

Babysitter should sneak in in the middle of the night with an “it’s a ____” sign.Poor kid.


32 posted on 05/28/2011 9:55:55 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: originalbuckeye

LOL Yep put him/her in the yard with his siiblings and let there be sticks, etc.If it is a boy they will begin to beat each other with them.


33 posted on 05/28/2011 10:00:15 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Tzimisce

Oppps my last respence was to you and I clciked on the wrong comment....


34 posted on 05/28/2011 10:01:23 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Tzimisce

Oppps my last response was to you and I clciked on the wrong comment....


35 posted on 05/28/2011 10:01:34 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: ConservativeStatement

Homosexuallity is not a matter of choice. It is genetic.

These parents are pathetic. There was a story a few years back about a baby boy whose penis was severed in a botched (allegedly) circumcision. Personally, I think the parents and doctor were complicit in a purposeful act of gender manipulatiion.

In any case, the birth boy was treated as a female thereafter. I’m sure it dismayed the sicko parents, when the adult “daughter” switched back to being a male. He even married. Lesson: Removing the penis and gender indoctrination will not produce a female. It’s all in the genes.

Of course, human sexuality is complex—running the gamut from pure hetero to pure homo with all sorts of in-between variations.


36 posted on 05/28/2011 10:11:31 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Westbrook

Toronto his a good place for them.


37 posted on 05/28/2011 10:13:15 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: dools0007world

This has to be a joke post.

No one can be this stupid.


38 posted on 05/28/2011 11:27:22 AM PDT by jra
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Homosexuallity is not a matter of choice. It is genetic.

Wrong. No one, not even homosexual scientists looking for it, has found any genetic or biological cause of homosexuality. The very fact that there are countless numbers of former homosexuals is proof as well.

39 posted on 05/28/2011 4:27:13 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: ConservativeStatement

40 posted on 05/31/2011 6:55:54 AM PDT by Morgana (I speak no more)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Unless the parents are the only ones who change this child’s diapers, the gender will “leak” out sooner or later. Which raises the question: Will these “parents” let this child use whichever public restroom (s)he chooses regardless of gender?


41 posted on 05/31/2011 7:08:27 AM PDT by Polyxene (Out of the depths I have cried to Thee, O Lord; Lord, hear my voice.)
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To: dools0007world
Homosexuallity is not a matter of choice. It is genetic.

Really? Have they isolated the "gay gene"?

What of the "ex-gays" that the homos hate so much?

What about the higher rate of homosexuality among those who are sexually abused? How is it that those with the "gay gene" are abused more often that others? (sarc)

What about the higher rate of homosexuality amoung those raised by gay "parents"? How is it that those with the "gay gene" are adopted by gays more often that others? (more sarc)

42 posted on 05/31/2011 7:14:05 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: dools0007world

The belief that homosexuality is of genetic consequence is popular, heralded by the radical homosexual activists for political reasons. Unfortunately, it simply is false. For a quick explanation on what was found in the identical twin registry studies, I recommend the following:

http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead2.html


43 posted on 05/31/2011 7:35:21 AM PDT by Juana la Loca
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To: Juana la Loca

Being homosexual is no different than being born with Down’s Syndrome, Spina Bifida, cleft pallet etc.

In any case, what normal person would choose to be homosexual if he/she were not?


44 posted on 05/31/2011 10:26:14 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: dools0007world

Who would choose to be addicted to drugs or alcohol? Who chooses to be depressed, suffer from anxiety, or have OCD? Who chooses to have an explosive temper? There are lots of behavior that humans engage in that is unhealthy. Homosexuality is no different, and as a matter of fact, when people seek therapy for homosexuality it has the same recidivism rate as other mental illnesses.


45 posted on 05/31/2011 2:10:15 PM PDT by Juana la Loca
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To: Juana la Loca

If you actually take the time to read what you wrote you’ll see that you agree with me. Homosexuality is a mental illness.


46 posted on 05/31/2011 6:08:43 PM PDT by dools0007world
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