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Druggist in OKC is convicted of murder (shot robber)
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110527_222_A15_CUTLIN912500 ^

Posted on 05/28/2011 11:54:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws

OKLAHOMA CITY - An emotional jury decided Thursday that pharmacist Jerome Jay Ersland is guilty of first-degree murder for fatally shooting a masked robber two years ago in an Oklahoma City drugstore.

Jurors recommended life in prison as punishment.

Two co-workers at Reliable Discount Pharmacy told jurors that Ersland was a hero who saved their lives on May 19, 2009.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110527_222_A15_CUTLIN912500

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...


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KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ersland; robbery; selfdefense
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1 posted on 05/28/2011 11:54:54 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

He should have been convicted of second degree, not first degree.

He did not go into work with the intent to kill, be
Ut he did kill when the opportunity presented itself.

At least, as far as I understand what first degree and second degree means.


2 posted on 05/29/2011 12:00:14 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: TigerClaws

Happened two days ago, may 27th. Like re runs of old news.


3 posted on 05/29/2011 12:00:59 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

I hadn’t seen the story or the video. Sorry I don’t live on the internet.

2nd degree at least for the guy, I’d say.


4 posted on 05/29/2011 12:03:30 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: org.whodat

I think it’s still good to discuss these things.

There are Freepers who think that if somebody has broken into your home, it’s ok to tie them up in a chair and put a gun two inches from the head and pull the trigger.

I find that to be highly disturbing, in an entertaining fashion.


5 posted on 05/29/2011 12:04:54 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: TigerClaws

Let’s keep this case in mind when contemplating the Guerena case.


6 posted on 05/29/2011 12:05:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: TigerClaws

You would have if you had done a search, anyway, he can file an appeal, but I would put his odd of winning at about zero.


7 posted on 05/29/2011 12:06:12 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: TigerClaws
Yoo hoo, Stolen Valor psycho convicted of murder in keystone cop type robbery.

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8 posted on 05/29/2011 12:08:25 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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Unrelated.

I hope everybody who had a reasonable chance to determine what happened to Guerena loses their jobs, and where warranted, faces criminal charges, but bad acts by cops doesn’t give the average person the right to act criminally.


9 posted on 05/29/2011 12:09:11 AM PDT by Jonty30
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If you think it is good to discuss this thing try sticking to the story and do not wonder off on the what ifs and maybes stuff. All of which has zero to do with this guys conviction.


10 posted on 05/29/2011 12:09:30 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Jonty30
There are Freepers who think that if somebody has broken into your home, it’s ok to tie them up in a chair and put a gun two inches from the head and pull the trigger.

If someone breaks into my home, there absolutely, positively will be lasting (as in eternal) consequences for the criminal. That's my Second Amendment Remedy and it's sacred as far as I'm concerned.

11 posted on 05/29/2011 12:11:00 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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Which is why I said, Eric’s comments were unrelated to this case.

He made it seem, that because of a bad situation in an Arizona county, that this country should become a war zone.

I was just saying to Eric, that I understood his feelings, but it’s unrelated.


12 posted on 05/29/2011 12:13:17 AM PDT by Jonty30
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The chain of command including the judge should have their assess hauled in front of a Military tribunal.


13 posted on 05/29/2011 12:13:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: TigerClaws
An emotional jury decided Thursday

A logical jury may have found differently.

14 posted on 05/29/2011 12:16:09 AM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: TigerClaws
An emotional jury decided Thursday

A logical jury may have found differently.

15 posted on 05/29/2011 12:16:08 AM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: re_nortex

Your second amendment right gives you the right to defend your home and even allows you to kill in defense of your home.

But it doesn’t allow you to kill somebody, execution-style and I doubt you can find a single case anywhere in the contiguous United States where somebody was proven to have killed somebody in such a fashion and got away with it.


16 posted on 05/29/2011 12:16:43 AM PDT by Jonty30
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Any one who breaks into my house has deminstrated his desire to do harm to me or mine. That is reason enough to kill as far as I am concerned. End the threat once and for all. A dead guy cant come back and kill you when he gets out of jail.


17 posted on 05/29/2011 12:20:50 AM PDT by Oculus III
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To: budwiesest

The jury reached the correct conclusion, this phony war hero fake, had murdered someone on tape.


18 posted on 05/29/2011 12:22:09 AM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: Gene Eric

I don’t know about a military tribunal, but if any of them didn’t follow their procedures, they should lose their jobs.

I certainly think Sheriff Podunk should definitely be gone over this. All he had to do was ask who it was and what sort of criminal record the guy had, because a few parking tickets would have been a big enough clue to show that SWAT was not required.

It would have to be shown that mistakes were criminally related, before you could hoist anybody before a justice system and not do it as a form of revenge.


19 posted on 05/29/2011 12:29:33 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: budwiesest

They may not have had much choice. Prosecutors sometimes makes it an all or nothing case.

Either they convict the guy of first degree or let him go and the jury may have thought they didn’t really have a choice on that point.


20 posted on 05/29/2011 12:31:26 AM PDT by Jonty30
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