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Druggist in OKC is convicted of murder (shot robber)
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110527_222_A15_CUTLIN912500 ^

Posted on 05/28/2011 11:54:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws

OKLAHOMA CITY - An emotional jury decided Thursday that pharmacist Jerome Jay Ersland is guilty of first-degree murder for fatally shooting a masked robber two years ago in an Oklahoma City drugstore.

Jurors recommended life in prison as punishment.

Two co-workers at Reliable Discount Pharmacy told jurors that Ersland was a hero who saved their lives on May 19, 2009.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=14&articleid=20110527_222_A15_CUTLIN912500

(Excerpt) Read more at tulsaworld.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; ersland; robbery; selfdefense
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To: Syncro

I, personally, don’t see much difference between standing over an incapacitated individual and pumping him full of holes and putting a gun next to his head and pulling the trigger.

Dead is dead.


241 posted on 05/29/2011 12:36:49 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Have you lost your mind. Raid my property and put a bullseye on your back. I’m about 2 out of 3 at 300 yds.


242 posted on 05/29/2011 12:37:15 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Jonty30
Oh well that is a good reason to paint FR in a bad light.

Because you think that apples are oranges.

You forgot the blindfold and tied up part this time.

243 posted on 05/29/2011 12:40:31 PM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: Syncro

I’m a very open person. I don’t state things that are not what I believe nor do I state things with an intent, other than what is written down.

But thanks for trying to read my mind, the effort is appreciated.

As far as my sentence structure mistakes go, that’s the risk of typing everything out on a Blackberry. I can’t see everything I’m typing and have to rely upon my middle-aged memory to remember.


244 posted on 05/29/2011 12:41:39 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: eyedigress

There is a clear difference between somebody coming onto the property and you taking him out and him lying prone and unconscious, on your property, and you walking over to him, standing above him, and shooting him until he is dead.

And the law does see the difference as well, even if you cannot.


245 posted on 05/29/2011 12:45:11 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

The ten commandments are enforced equally. Number 8 holds just as much weight as any other. The kill portion was changed from the Torah. It says thou shalt not murder in English. The Pharmacist did not start this, he ended it. He did not murder, he protected, obviously during an emotional ramp-up that the robber caused.


246 posted on 05/29/2011 12:46:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Syncro

If FR has been painted, it hasn’t been my doing alone (and it certainly wasn’t my intent on doing that).

I just happen to like no-holds barred discussions, with people being honest, even when there is disagreement.


247 posted on 05/29/2011 12:47:50 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: eyedigress

He ended it in a wrongful fashion. The guy was down and out and wasn’t getting up again. The pharmacist knew this by his slow and methodical actions and the fact that he lied to the police about it.

It would have been a simple matter of phoning the police and keeping a close eye on the guy to make sure he didn’t get up again.


248 posted on 05/29/2011 12:50:52 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: eyedigress

But I do think the prosecutor and jury were wrong to find him guilty of first degree murder. The pharmacists didn’t go to work with the intent of taking somebody’s life and he probably wasn’t quite in his right mind when he took the life.

I don’t know if the jury had the option, but I do think second degree was a more appropriate verdict.


249 posted on 05/29/2011 12:53:48 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Well, I wasn’t in the store. To me that call was totally up to the pharmacist. If someone chooses to rob you, you can rid that any way you see fit. Remember, the robber chose this chain of events.


250 posted on 05/29/2011 12:54:27 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Jonty30

Manslaughter at best. It’s all BS.


251 posted on 05/29/2011 12:55:26 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

You still have to abide by the law. The law doesn’t recognize the ability to conduct a blood feud or go hunting an individual down, just because you think it is warranted.


252 posted on 05/29/2011 12:59:20 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: SatinDoll
But I remember that there are people who when they didn't’t kill the criminal who attacked them, later were sued because the piece of shit survived. I am not going to work into my old age to support some criminal!

In Oklahoma that will not happen, we have a "Make my Day Law", the the kid was killed during the crime, the family can NOT sue. But since he was killed AFTER the crime the family is suing.

If the Pharmacist had been acquitted the family would have been forced to drop their suit, but since He wasn't the can now proceed.

253 posted on 05/29/2011 1:00:39 PM PDT by amigatec (The only change you will see in the next four years will be what's in your pocket.)
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To: eyedigress

Manslaughter is killing without the hate. What the pharmacist did was stronger than manslaughter.


254 posted on 05/29/2011 1:02:42 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Not on my jury. You choose to steal, you choose the fate.


255 posted on 05/29/2011 1:06:44 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Yes, Mr. Foreman of the jury, loud and clear. :)


256 posted on 05/29/2011 1:10:13 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

Robbing a pharmacy is the equivalent of robbing a bank. Determinations were made and acted upon. It is a lot more serious than stuffing a snickers in your pocket. I have no qualms whatsoever with the fright that idiot presented to this distributer and the subsequent action that happened to said idiot.


257 posted on 05/29/2011 1:15:00 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

Regardless, of your emotional state, there are limits as to what you’re allowed to do.


258 posted on 05/29/2011 1:21:19 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30

No there isn’t. Steal...expect the unexpected. You might die. They were wrong to punish this man. I will take care of my property. If you don’t want numerous bullets, I suggest you don’t try to rob me.


259 posted on 05/29/2011 1:25:23 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress

It wasn’t the number of bullets, it was where they were in the sequence of events. Had the pharmacists shot the guy six times, quickly, and killed him, he likely wouldn’t have faced charges. The prosecutor had even said as much.

It was because the perp was, without question, no danger to anybady that the pharmacist was prosecuted.


260 posted on 05/29/2011 1:30:54 PM PDT by Jonty30
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