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Student prohibited from graduation for Facebook comments
the daily caller ^ | 6/2/11

Posted on 06/02/2011 7:34:45 AM PDT by EBH

Facebook and college go hand and hand these days — students read up on each other, share funny videos, send messages, and publicize those embarrassing photos from the night before. At Saint Augustine’s College, however, posting the wrong thing on Facebook will land you in hot water.

The Raleigh, N.C., college prohibited senior Roman Caple from participating in his class’ graduation because of a “negative social media exchange” he had on Facebook regarding the school’s response to the April 16th tornado damage.

What Caple is being punished for is encouraging his peers on SAC’s Facebook page to go to the school’s public meeting to argue for what he thought was the best way to respond to the tornado damage.

“Here it go!!!!!” he wrote. “Students come correct, be prepared, and have supporting documents to back up your arguments bcuz SAC will come hard!!!! That is all.”

Several days later, Caple met with SAC Vice President for Student Development and Services Eric W. Jackson, who that same day informed Caple that he would not be allowed to walk with his class.

In a letter to Caple, Jackson explained that the reason for his prohibition was the Facebook comments, adding that “[a]ll students enrolled at Saint Augustine’s College are responsible for protecting the reputation of the college and supporting its mission.”

While graduation has already happened, without Caple participating, the student is still fighting the decision. His attorney, Brandon S. Atwater, has sought help from the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE).

“While it promises free speech, Saint Augustine’s College has apparently rolled out a brand new, unwritten ‘don’t challenge our decisions on Facebook’ rule that warrants keeping a student out of graduation ceremonies,” FIRE senior vice president Robert Shibley said.

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1 posted on 06/02/2011 7:34:48 AM PDT by EBH
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To: EBH

Stock stuff for this time of year, following the usual “they wouldn’t let me take my lesbian partner to the prom” laments in May.


2 posted on 06/02/2011 7:36:36 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: EBH

Stock stuff for this time of year, following the usual “they wouldn’t let me take my lesbian partner to the prom” laments in May.


3 posted on 06/02/2011 7:38:27 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: EBH

I don’t get what he said.


4 posted on 06/02/2011 7:38:38 AM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: nerdwithagun

I am with you, what did he say that is so bloody offensive? bring documentation of what?


5 posted on 06/02/2011 7:42:47 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: EBH

Is Saint Augustine’s College a private institution?
If so, it’s their call..................


6 posted on 06/02/2011 7:46:52 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven............)
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“Here it go!!!!!” he wrote. “Students come correct, be prepared, and have supporting documents to back up your arguments bcuz SAC will come hard!!!! That is all.”

With this evidence of his lack of command of the English language it's no wonder he was denied graduation!

7 posted on 06/02/2011 7:47:01 AM PDT by pgkdan ( Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: nerdwithagun

bcuz U not come correct, no come hard!!!!


8 posted on 06/02/2011 7:48:02 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: EBH

If they chose to withhold his diploma for the atrocious misuse of spelling and grammar, that might have been understandable.

But holding him out of graduation because he asked classmates to go and discuss something at a public meeting? That’s insane.

Of course, as with many of these stories, we are only seeing a partial view of a single side of things. There may be more going on that the alleged victim wants to discuss.


9 posted on 06/02/2011 7:48:48 AM PDT by kevkrom (Palin's detractors now resort to "nobody believes she can win because nobody believes she can win")
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To: nerdwithagun
I don’t get what he said.

Maybe he is being denied a diploma because he is illiterate?

10 posted on 06/02/2011 7:50:05 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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“Here it go!!!!!” he wrote. “Students come correct, be prepared, and have supporting documents to back up your arguments bcuz SAC will come hard!!!! That is all.”


Huh? If anything he should be denied a diploma. “I be a college grad-u-ate.”


11 posted on 06/02/2011 7:52:23 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (There's a strange odor coming from the White House. Smells like BO.)
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Maybe it’s a private institution, maybe they can do what they want, but I want to see them suffer for this. A kid is doing what anyone in a free society ought to be encouraged to do and they’re punishing him. Sounds like a bunch of snake handlers to me.


12 posted on 06/02/2011 7:54:35 AM PDT by sand lake bar (This bag may be used as a toy)
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Maybe this is why....

He posted this on the SCHOOL's facebook page...and there are likely...RULES...

His darn message almost looks coded.

13 posted on 06/02/2011 7:58:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Red Badger

“Is Saint Augustine’s College a private institution?
If so, it’s their call..................”

Not if he paid them money. They have a contractual obligation.


14 posted on 06/02/2011 7:59:20 AM PDT by MCF
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To: kevkrom
My experience has been that there is a no more enthusiastic petty tyrant than a college/university administrator.

It's quite an experience to undergo a Judicial Board hearing and watching an internationally-known philosophy professor act like a NAZI judge.

15 posted on 06/02/2011 7:59:43 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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“Here it go!!!!!” he wrote. “Students come correct, be prepared, and have supporting documents to back up your arguments bcuz SAC will come hard!!!! That is all.”

All your base are belong to us!

16 posted on 06/02/2011 8:05:46 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: sand lake bar

I agree. Grammar aside, it seems the college’s complaint is that the student disagreed with policy. He was encouraging others to attend a public forum where policy was being discussed in order to advance an alternative view; there is nothing more “American”. All the stakeholders (students, faculty, staff, parents, community members, etc) should be asked to do the same - it’s a shame not more of them are as engaged...


17 posted on 06/02/2011 8:07:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: sand lake bar
Its a private institution, but you have to disclose your rules and guidelines before hand, it would akin to to throwing a student out of school for drinking 7-up, without ever saying that 7-up wasn't allowed on school grounds.

Look at BYU, they are private, and make their incoming students sign guidelines that they agree to follow or suffer the punishment, if they didn't do that, those kids could turn around and sue the school.

18 posted on 06/02/2011 8:09:20 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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What he said was that the students need to have copies of reports, grades, permissions to graduate and anything that will support why the student thinks he has made the progress the student claims. The young man expected all the records to be dispersed with the wind and so if the university wanted to keep a student there for an extra year or two of tuition, it could easily do so, unless the student had supporting documentation.

Tornado or not, this is always good advice, whether you're a college student, office worker or CEO. FWIW, the Army does indeed lose 201 files and you military people should have copies of your paperwork in your own personal family file away from the military.

19 posted on 06/02/2011 8:11:52 AM PDT by Jemian (One cannot have a media frenzy unless it is started by ... THE MEDIA!)
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“Here it go!!!!!” he wrote. “Students come correct, be prepared, and have supporting documents to back up your arguments bcuz SAC will come hard!!!! That is all.”

In essence, a commuting (i.e. non-campus-resident) student who is not even directly involved in the administration's handling of issues related to tornado damage posts a semi-literate accusation that the administration is taking a hard line obstructive position on the issues and urges students to be prepared for a confrontation with the school. Most likely there is more to this story (on both sides) than is being reported. Reflexively, I would usually side with FIRE on almost any challenge against so-called institutions of higher education as FIRE usually takes up the cause of the type of students that the ACLU tends to ignore. In this case, it almost appears that a budding furture community organizer is learning that chicago-style flash mob activism doesn't always play well.

20 posted on 06/02/2011 8:21:13 AM PDT by VRWCmember (_!_)
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