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To: Paleo Conservative

This parent, who left noticeable red marks, probably went well beyond what most parents regard as “spanking,” namely a few open-palmed swats to a doubly-clothed tuchus.

Not saying she belongs in jail, but I am saying this is not TYPICAL spanking at issue here, as the lede implies.


3 posted on 06/15/2011 3:27:56 PM PDT by pogo101
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Typical when I was a kid....was getting laid into with a belt...

This is a farce.


8 posted on 06/15/2011 3:34:25 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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It looks like a custody quarrel which the paternal grandmother has won (where is the sperm donor by the way?). The judge calls it “spanking”, and accepts it as normal in the past. I have doubts about this case.

I would agree with you if the kid had been switched to the point of lingering marks or broken skin, but that is not what it says. Poorly written and sketchy article, which is typical of media coverage of legal proceedings.


9 posted on 06/15/2011 3:35:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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I don’t think it is possible to spank and not leave some red marks.


11 posted on 06/15/2011 3:38:39 PM PDT by kara37
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Prov. 19:18 Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying. God seems to disagree with you. God didn't say use a open palm on a doubly clothed tush. He said use a rod lest your child grow up headed for hell.

The foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men.

Men are always trying to one up God, with exactly the same results: Failure.

You do not injure your child, you punish in love, but Punish has to get their attention. I'd rather they cry a bit when they are young rather than cry a lot when they are grown unruly adults.

21 posted on 06/15/2011 4:07:27 PM PDT by politicalmerc (The whole earth may move, but God's throne is never shaken. I think I'll stand by Him..)
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"This parent, who left noticeable red marks, probably went well beyond what most parents regard as “spanking, ..."

B.S.!

29 posted on 06/15/2011 4:45:19 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: pogo101

“This parent, who left noticeable red marks, probably went well beyond what most parents regard as “spanking,” namely a few open-palmed swats to a doubly-clothed tuchus.”

If it doesn’t leave marks it isn’t a spanking and any parent that doesn’t spank their kids need to be jailed!


74 posted on 06/15/2011 8:50:12 PM PDT by dalereed
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I hate to say it, but there is a race issue here.

I had a neighbor (black) who spanked with a belt or a wooden spoon at least once a week. (She thought it was abusive to use a hand - hands were for “loving” children.)

I’ve used a belt on my fair-skinned son twice in his life. (three strikes each, both times for life-threatening behaviors) and left bruises. He’s bruised with a hand swat.

According to CPS, I’m an abuser, she is not.

My son has a very dark-skinned friend (just graduated high school) who’s parents were horribly abusive. (belts, punching, kicking, etc) and his skin didn’t show marks.

I have a friend who has an *extremely* fair skinned son. (Nordic ancestry) One not-too-hard swat and the kid had a hand-print that would last for hours. (The kid also couldn’t be out in the sun for more than 15 minutes without burning. He still drowns himself in sun-tan lotion every time he leaves the house.)

The darker the child, the less the marks show. Basing judgments of abuse on visible marks is a very poor measure. There are many, MANY dark-skinned children who’re not saved from abuse because of this. I hate to cry “racism”, but this *is* a racist policy.

I hate it when the gov’t decided to ‘make an example’ out of good parents who’ve trying to raise their children to be law-abiding citizens. We have so many parents who’re ignoring their children or defending their children’s poor behavior.


94 posted on 06/16/2011 8:12:10 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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