Posted on 07/19/2011 7:19:18 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
As the tired old analogy that free speech doesn't give one the right to shout 'fire!' in a crowded theater means that free speech can be regulated, for better or worse (worse IMHO) the Supreme Court ruled in Heller v DC that the 2nd Amendment is not an 'absolute' right and can also be regulated.
Likewise, the manner in which the 2nd Amendment is exercised can also be regulated, both with regards to concealment and with regards to what sort of weapon may be kept and borne.
I agree.
The right to carry concealed is something I have to jump through hoops for in MA. And, as of yet, my local police chief doesn’t think I am worthy of the unrestricted Class A LTC.
Since 90% of my work time is spent on college campuses, it would be pretty much moot to start with, it is not something I am fighting. Every year, I make another, respectable, application. They want me to spend another $800 on a CCW class. I think that is prohibitive.
The federal government does not have the power to “allow” people to carry concealed arms. That is a God-given natural right that nobody in government may take away without due process of law.
This is a law we do not and should not need. It’s probably also a stealth registry disguised as a national standard. Never trust the government.
As the tired old analogy that free speech doesn’t give one the right to shout ‘fire!’ in a crowded theater means that free speech can be regulated, that regulation cannot include licensing tongues, arrest for speaking (at all) without a permit, limiting amplification capabilities (not use, just capability) of PA systems, arrest for unlicensed possession (not use, just possession) of concealable communication devices, etc.
Likewise, the manner in which the 2ndA may be Constitutionally regulated is limited to unjustified threatening, risk, or harm done, and equipment or usage which has undue inherent risk (may explode and harm user, unapproved possession in prisons, firing may ignite & destroy chemical/munitions factory, etc.).
Only argument favoring CCW licensing is at time of enumeration of 2ndA, concealed possession was considered presumptive evidence of ill intent; either impose minimal “good guy” licensing requirements, or reverse intense social opposition to allowing unlicensed open carry.
I’m rereading Unintended Consequences now. Unbelievable what has happened.
It is not up to govenment or the courts to change social perceptions, but the Supreme Court in Heller did specifically lay the questions of if, when, and how for concealed weapons at the doorstep of the individual States.
Which brings us back to the subject of this thread, Congress making general laws to observe CCW reciprocity as part of full faith and credit.
I’d prefer the government to peel back federal anti-gun legislation in reverse chronological order.
FOPA, GCA, NFA, anything else I don’t know about.
I wasn’t being sarcastic at all, I meant it and I will.
I am very pro 2A, so much so that I would like to be able to protect myself in every state, including the Socialist Republic of California when I am traveling.
There is no background check on citizen to citizen firearms purchases.
Most states require citizen to citizen firearms purchases to go through an FFL, not all mind you it does vary, but it is becoming more restrictive (not that I agree with that, I don’t).
Agreed.
I can’t get excited about well intended law makers requiring a license to exercise a Constitutionally ennumerated right.
Just waiting for the spark. At this point, everyone who cares and is capable still has too much to lose.
Not true. Most don’t.
Tell that to my lawyers in 4 different states who researched it for me.
He ought to press for amending the 1968 Firearms Act so that ANY CCW in one state could get a firearm (long and short) delivered to his house. A first “peel the artichoke”* move would allow a handgun to be shipped to any state’s FFL.
*Old East German quote on how the Reds operated back then - peel one leaf at a time from the artichoke until nothing remains.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Now, we just need to get back to it.
“I’ll let you see my Alaska Conceal Carry Permit.”
;)
I'll show you mine from MA. No other state recognizes it. I wonder why...
I disagree with National Concealed Carry - would you want someone like Eric Holder having a list of all the gun owners in the country???
Bingo!
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