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Was 70 mph a bad idea?
The Northern Virginia Daily ^ | July 20, 2011 | Preston Knight

Posted on 07/20/2011 7:47:43 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WOODSTOCK -- The last few days have been busy for Shenandoah County emergency personnel on Interstate 81.

Or, as some people may feel, it's been like old times.

Four notable crashes in a 10-mile stretch since Thursday afternoon -- there were two that day, one on Friday and a tractor-trailer overturned Tuesday morning -- may have been the most in such a short period of time since the Virginia Department of Transportation raised the posted speed limit throughout most of the jurisdiction to 70 mph last the fall. Official crash data, though, is not yet available for the past few months, although for all of 2010, there were 29 fewer crashes in the county than a year earlier, according to the Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles.

The DMV does not track road-specific crash data.

However, speed is not necessarily always the culprit. On Friday and Tuesday, for example, it appeared to be driver fatigue, said Sgt. F.L. "Les" Tyler, a state police spokesman. Felton L. Joseph, 59, of Pearland, Texas, was charged with reckless driving on Tuesday after overturning his tractor-trailer hauling tea on the right shoulder at southbound mile marker 284. There were no injuries.

Based on what local officials have observed, after roughly nine months with the new speed limit, nobody appears to have found a reason yet to change their original impression on 70 mph.

"I don't think there is any good evidence that the interstate is more dangerous now than it was before or even that actual speeds have increased at all," said Del. Todd Gilbert, R-Woodstock, who favored the move. "VDOT made the determination about which areas could safely support the speed limit increase, and I think we should wait and see additional data from them before we jump to any conclusions."

Shenandoah County Fire Chief Gary Yew said he has always thought the increase was a mistake. He is concerned about public safety, particularly in peak travel times, such as the current summer vacation period.

"The more serious crashes over the years, they certainly have been attributed to speed," Yew said. "I can't help but think it compounds our problems."

VDOT spokeswoman Sandy Myers said her agency is waiting to collect data for a three-year period before reviewing the effectiveness of the speed limit change. She echoes Gilbert in stating that it's too early to make any conclusions.

The data, when available, may not matter for some people. William Pence, president of Appalachian Freight Carriers in Edinburg, said 65 mph is fast enough for truckers, so the hike to 70 mph did not sit well with him. Drivers in his company, though, are directed to set their speed at 67 mph, which conserves fuel.

"And that's fast enough for trucks," Pence said.

He said too many crashes involve truck drivers speeding and following too closely, and that was before they were granted the opportunity to travel faster.

"Any rear-end collision involving our drivers," Pence said, "they're outta here."

The Board of Supervisors passed a resolution opposing the increase last year. District 1 representative Dick Neese said his opinion hasn't changed and his concern for I-81 is so great that whenever he must make a Harrisonburg-to-Strasburg trip, he takes U.S. 11.

"I got stopped in [a crash backup] one time," Neese said. "I said there's no way I'm going to let this happen again."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 70mph; accidents; crashes; i81; speedlimit; truckers; vdot
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1 posted on 07/20/2011 7:47:45 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One of the highpoints of my life was approaching the Montana state line in a restored Nova SS and seeing a big sign that said “Speed Limit: Resonable and Prudent”.


2 posted on 07/20/2011 7:53:18 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah, Mr. Neese, that’s good. Instead of taking the 70 mph Interstate that’s just as safe as when the speed limit was 65 mph, take the two-lane US 11 for 50 miles, get hung up in all the little one-stoplight towns along the way, take more time getting there, burn more gas, and have a higher chance of getting caught in an accident. Idiot.

I know those stretches of road. I-81 could stand to be widened to six lanes; speed isn’t so much the issue, as is a high amount of traffic, large trucks in particular.

}:-)4


3 posted on 07/20/2011 7:54:16 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Only the sign had “reasonable” correctly spelled. Lol.


4 posted on 07/20/2011 7:54:48 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Statistical noise and personal anecdotes.

Eisenhower wanted the Autobahn, and we got interstate bumper cars.


5 posted on 07/20/2011 7:55:15 AM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I had a couple of friends here in Michigan that had 396’s. You know, (graduate, work in the shop for a year and get drafted.)

I know the tire store knew these guys by their first names.


6 posted on 07/20/2011 7:59:51 AM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Shenandoah County Fire Chief Gary Yew said he has always thought the increase was a mistake. He is concerned about public safety, particularly in peak travel times, such as the current summer vacation period.


He can have a governor or speed tracking device on all his personal and work vehicles.

A$$hole.


7 posted on 07/20/2011 8:00:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Was 70 mph a bad idea?

80 mph would be better

8 posted on 07/20/2011 8:00:48 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

incresing the speed is rarely the problem. most freeways were designed for 50’s era cars to be able to travel that fast.
the problem is people travelling at different speeds. those stupid greenie hybrids are my biggest fear on the highway- they tend to drive well below the speed limit and cause rapid lane changes, other vehicle to slam on their brakes and general traffic backups.


9 posted on 07/20/2011 8:00:55 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I love the headline = “Was 70 mph a Bad Idea?” The drift of the article seems to be that they don’t know, they don’t have any hard facts, and other factors weigh into serious accidents as much or more than speed. Just another attempt to lower the speed limit, make us put on a sweater, tear the bandage off, and eat our peas.


10 posted on 07/20/2011 8:01:58 AM PDT by hometoroost (Per Oceander: The only guarantees in life are death, taxes, and stupidity.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
70 mph is a bad idea. It should be at least 80 mph.
11 posted on 07/20/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by Tribune7 (We're flat broke, but he thinks these solar shingles and really fast trains will magically save us.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
A most welcome sign on the German Autobahn:


12 posted on 07/20/2011 8:05:02 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Widen the damn road and ticket people driving to damn slow, if you want to drive slow, get off the damn interstate.


13 posted on 07/20/2011 8:06:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: hometoroost

Very true... a major cause of accidents here in the Hampton Roads area centers around idiots who use their driving time to text, do makeup, yak to their friends, surf the internet, etc. And speed has nothing to do with it.


14 posted on 07/20/2011 8:07:12 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: org.whodat
Widen the damn road and ticket people driving to damn slow, if you want to drive slow, get off the damn interstate.

Exactly. There are plenty of secondaries available for those who want to take the slow, scenic routes.

15 posted on 07/20/2011 8:08:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

And, uh, just how reasonable and prudent a speed did you travel across the Big Sky Country ?


16 posted on 07/20/2011 8:08:19 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Really surprised me that VA went to 70 mph considering they are one of the most anti-car states with the detector ban, strict inspections and reckless driving tickets for minor violations.

Kind of interesting that Maine is going to 75 mph and a stretch of I-49 in LA is 75 as well. I wonder when the 85 mph signs will show in TX.

Concerning these accidents, these nanny statist will push for bringing back the much hated 55 mph speed limit.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 8:08:34 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: Tribune7
The interstate I commute on has the flow of traffic being 80 mph, regardless of the fact that the speed limit is 55.

People tend to travel at what they consider a safe speed, which on a freeway tends to be 80. I would not be traveling faster than 80, even on an unlimited-speed highway, because that's the max safe speed for my car and my reflexes.

18 posted on 07/20/2011 8:09:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: ScottinVA
Ought to have a device installed whereby a hand springs out and slaps the driver upside the head every time the front wheels waiver erratically.
19 posted on 07/20/2011 8:10:24 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Here in Wisconsin the interstate speed limit is 65 mph. When I drive on it, I usually drive around 70 mph. (Yes, that makes me a speeder.) I am constantly passed giving me the feeling that I’m driving about 50 mph. The I-90-94 corridor is packed with cars during the warm months many of them driving five to fifteen mph over the speed limit. If there had been an unusual increase in accidents on it from the speeding cars, we’d have heard about it.


20 posted on 07/20/2011 8:13:29 AM PDT by driftless2
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