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Norway attack: Right-wing extremism emerging? [BARF ALERT!]
MSNBC ^ | July 23, 2011 | William Maclean

Posted on 07/23/2011 11:13:53 AM PDT by Beaten Valve

LONDON — A report that Norway's bomb and gun rampage may be the work of a far-right militant confronts Europe with the possibility that a new paramilitary threat is emerging, a decade after al-Qaida's Sept. 11 attacks.

One analyst called the attacks possibly Europe's "Oklahoma City" moment, a reference to American right-wing militant Timothy McVeigh who detonated a truck bomb at a federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995, killing 168 people.

Police forces in many western European countries worry about rising far-right sentiment, fueled by a toxic mix of anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant bigotry and increasing economic hardship.

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To: Earthdweller

Do you have a link that shows that Norway’s Labor is the anti-immigrant party? Much appreciated.


51 posted on 07/23/2011 2:34:22 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Earthdweller
Their Labor party was anti-immigration...so the man shot the children of those he agrees with. HELLO..tap..tap..is anybody there?

I did a search and found Norway's ruling Labor Party described as a socialist pro-multicult / pro-Muslim immigration party viewed by its detractors as primarily responsible for the cultural degeneration and demographic mess in which it now finds itself. So it appears YOU are the confused one, ED.

52 posted on 07/23/2011 2:52:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Earthdweller
Their Labor party was anti-immigration...so the man shot the children of those he agrees with. HELLO..tap..tap..is anybody there?

I did a search and found Norway's ruling Labor Party described as a socialist pro-multicult / pro-Muslim immigration party viewed by its detractors as primarily responsible for the cultural degeneration and demographic mess in which Norway now finds itself. So it appears YOU are the confused one, ED.

53 posted on 07/23/2011 2:53:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Carling

And John Doe #2.


54 posted on 07/23/2011 2:55:12 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: Beaten Valve

“Security specialist Segal said of Friday’s bombing and shootings: “The tactics and actuality of these attacks would be quite striking if carried out by a domestic far-right actor - trying to kill Norway’s PM is one thing and not surprising from any extremist elements, but killing average citizens in this manner is very, very unusual indeed for far-right/supremacists, and certainly for ones in Europe.” “

Of course its unusual, a conservative knows killing random citizens and advantage Joes is not only a wast of time its counter productive.

Even assassinating political leaders is dubious best.(because no one leader is acting alone, killing them wont end the evil.)

Only a nutcase or a leftist could think killing random people particular civilians would make a difference.

When and if sound minded conservative decide its time to fight, they will organize an army(or equivalent forces) to take (and hold) real control. Killing random people accomplish no conservative end. It’s liberals who have the desire to emotionally lash out “against society” not conservative.


55 posted on 07/23/2011 3:07:48 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Beaten Valve

“Security specialist Segal said of Friday’s bombing and shootings: “The tactics and actuality of these attacks would be quite striking if carried out by a domestic far-right actor - trying to kill Norway’s PM is one thing and not surprising from any extremist elements, but killing average citizens in this manner is very, very unusual indeed for far-right/supremacists, and certainly for ones in Europe.” “

Of course its unusual, a conservative knows killing random citizens and advantage Joes is not only a wast of time its counter productive.

Even assassinating political leaders is dubious best.(because no one leader is acting alone, killing them wont end the evil.)

Only a nutcase or a leftist could think killing random people particular civilians would make a difference.

When and if sound minded conservative decide its time to fight, they will organize an army(or equivalent forces) to take (and hold) real control. Killing random people accomplish no conservative end. It’s liberals who have the desire to emotionally lash out “against society” not conservative.


56 posted on 07/23/2011 3:08:10 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Beaten Valve

Left Wing extremism is emerging wishing that Right WIng extremism was.

The left should be careful what they wish for.


57 posted on 07/23/2011 3:18:45 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Earthdweller
"Again...the labor party (that the children are part of) is anti-immigration and is/was the target of Islamic extremists...your ideas are completely off by 180 degrees."
Was the Norwegian Foreign Minister, who this week endorsed the "palestinian state", Labor Party? Just sayin.
58 posted on 07/23/2011 3:20:20 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: I Shall Endure

I wondered about the political camp as well; it doesn’t justify the shootings, but what exactly was the camp for?


59 posted on 07/23/2011 3:40:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Mr. Mojo
The entire country has been running on “anti-immigration” in comparison to decades past since 9/11 and the Salman Rushdie murder by Islamic extremists. All of Europe is pulling to the right while we are going left. In order to compete..Labour’s proposed immigration bills are stricter border controls and a faster, more “streamlined” asylum process.

But here are a few links of happenings under the Norwegian Labour party rule to get a feel for climate. Someone did not like the direction that things have been going in....

Norway charges radical cleric for death threats

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gJ1T3qbtKpMPUw67TD7X5rTlwpWQ?docId=bac0246297764fc99cb097f616838f39

Norwegian newspaper reprints Prophet Mohammed cartoons

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/6952568/Norwegian-newspaper-reprints-Prophet-Mohammed-cartoons.html

There is more buried there if you look for it but the enemedia headlines are now flooded with talking points about pre-9/11 party platforms.

60 posted on 07/23/2011 3:48:25 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Beaten Valve
Police forces in many western European countries worry about rising far-right sentiment, fueled by a toxic mix of anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant bigotry and increasing economic hardship.

How odd. Not one mention of the rising world wide threat of muslim terrorism. It's like they consider the jihadists their close friends. They go out of their way to cover for them every time.
There are thousands of muslims ready and waiting to kill millions of innocent people around the globe, yet they focus all their time and energy on one crazy man!!!
These people need to get a real life. Their priorities are all messed up. They're going to get us all killed someday if they don't wise up.

61 posted on 07/23/2011 3:51:54 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SatinDoll
The Norwegians will find out the truth behind these acts and our media will ignore the facts. Just you all watch what develops.

That's the same thing I said to my daughter when I heard this story. It's like, somehow, the pieces don't fit quite right. I can't explain it, but something doesn't seem right somewhere.
I think, someday, the truth will rise to the top. People are dead. That's a given, but the story behind it needs a little more investigating.

62 posted on 07/23/2011 4:00:45 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Beaten Valve

What do you expect from MSNBC?


63 posted on 07/23/2011 4:39:14 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“If that were the case, his target would’ve been Norwegian Muslims. ....of whom there are millions. “

The entire population of Norway is only 4.9M.


64 posted on 07/23/2011 6:04:16 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (I have a liberal arts degree, do you want fries with that?)
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To: Beaten Valve; LucyT; shibumi; MestaMachine; RonBush; dixiechick2000

The attempt to tie the Norwegian terror attacks to “neocons” and “Zionists” has begun in earnest:

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/07/anders-behring-breiviks-online-comments


65 posted on 07/23/2011 6:25:47 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: jocon307

Terry Nichols was in contact with Abu Sayyaf in the Phillipines a few months before the Oklahoma City bombing.


66 posted on 07/23/2011 6:28:07 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: Gene Eric

We can’t let them get away with it.


67 posted on 07/23/2011 6:28:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: Sir_Humphrey
MvVeigh was an admitted Agnostic.

I guess he found out the truth the moment of his execution.

68 posted on 07/23/2011 6:30:31 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Would you rather live in Obamaville or Palintown?)
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To: Katya

European politics and American politics can’t be compared. It’s apples and oranges.


69 posted on 07/23/2011 6:30:48 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: Beaten Valve
Just read this sentence (Saturday evening) and my red flags went up: "Police said the suspected gunman, Anders Behring Breivik, described as a Christian fundamentalist with extreme right-wing views, put up no resistance when officers finally arrived on Utoya to apprehend him."(LATimes)
70 posted on 07/23/2011 6:56:21 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Beaten Valve

I think Anders Behring Breivik is an agent provocateur for the left.


71 posted on 07/23/2011 6:57:55 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies.)
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To: Ptarmigan

Anyways, he needs to be executed.


72 posted on 07/23/2011 6:58:28 PM PDT by Ptarmigan (God Hates Bunnies.)
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To: Ptarmigan

He will be that, whether or not it was his intent.

I want to know his motive. Did he go blasting a generation of leftists over the Norwegian left having let his country be overrun with muslims? Is this guy a self-styled nationalist run amok?

It’ll all come out in the wash, I expect, but we’ll have to filter it out of the media spin cycle.


73 posted on 07/23/2011 7:34:58 PM PDT by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE! WHICH MEANS; IF YOU'RE ON DEFENSE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.)
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To: Ptarmigan

The entire thing is utterly mind boggling.


74 posted on 07/23/2011 7:35:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Beaten Valve
worry about rising far-right sentiment, fueled by a toxic mix of anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant bigotry

If that were the case, his target would've been Norwegian Muslims

It was a case of political partisan extremism. It is reported that the camp was run by the ruling political party that the Norwegian Prime Minister belongs to.

The analogy would be a liberal nutjob carrying out a massacre at a Young Republicans summer camp when Bush was President or a conservative nutjob carrying out a massacre at a Young Democrats summer camp when Obama is President.

In this case, it was a massacre directed specifically against the youth camp of the Norwegian Labor Party.

Police have detained a 32-year-old Norwegian man who they suspect opened fire on scores at the ruling Labour Party's youth camp on Utoya Island,

75 posted on 07/23/2011 7:52:55 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: Beaten Valve

But let’s go to the root cause of this alleged rise in “right-wing militancy” and “anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant bigotry”.

Muslims immigrate to European countries, and riot, rape, and impose their religion on the native, indigenous Europeans. Left-wing politicians enable them, take their side in all disputes, and kowtow to them.

The economy worsens, due to the aforementioned politicians’ misrule, and the native, indigenous Europeans must compete in the labor market with ethnic Muslims who, used to a lower standard of living, accept lower pay.

Of course the native, indigenous Europeans lash out, both at the government that fails to represent their interests, and at the Muslim immigrants whose interest the government represents at the expense of the indigenous peoples of Europe.

Right-wing militancy thus follows as surely as the American Indians’ attacks on westward bound wagon trains. Their way of life and homeland is threatened, and so they retaliate.

The solution is not to suppress right-wing militants, who are merely the symptom, but to address the root of the problem, which is left-wing politicians coddling ethnic Muslim immigrants at the expense of all others.

Good parody?


76 posted on 07/23/2011 10:26:37 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: cripplecreek

Thats true but average Americans do not know that.

Have you ever listened to Sean Hannity’s man in the street interview?

Maybe every body in NY is a dumb a$$ and Im wrong.


77 posted on 07/24/2011 12:44:58 AM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: Beaten Valve

To me it was clear that this could not be a muslim attack. Arab terrorists would be far too dumb to do act with such efficiency. They need at least between 200 and 300 idiots committing suicide to kill 90 people. I think we have to live with the fact, that this was somehow a crazy Norwegian nazi.

Sad but true.


78 posted on 07/24/2011 1:21:04 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: Mr. Mojo

You said:

“...If that were the case, his target would’ve been Norwegian Muslims. ....of whom there are millions...”

This is wrong.

The youth camp on this island was organized by the Social democratic party. Multicultural Socialists.

He had a perfect motive for his crime.


79 posted on 07/24/2011 1:26:04 AM PDT by European Guest (De omnibus dubitandum)
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To: Beaten Valve

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”


80 posted on 07/24/2011 1:38:45 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: jocon307

“We in America don’t have the history of “right-wing” fascist violence that they do in Europe, so I’m not sure we can really relate to their fears.”

Good point. It would be like one of us going mad about Obozos immigration policy, blewing up something in DC and storming a “young democrats of america” summer camp. God beware this might happen. No political movement is safe from being abused by a insane individual.


81 posted on 07/24/2011 1:46:18 AM PDT by buzzer
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To: Beaten Valve

Well the facts are emerging That is Exactly why he did it,he is anti immigrant ,the ruling Party in Norway is Pro immigration and the Camp Of Children were those of Ruling Party Politicians.
Now you can try to Deny it but the fact is we DONT DO WHAT THIS GUY DID!! This is not the TEA PARTY!! The way you can look at it is Norway is a Very LIBERAL country,My sister is a Norwegian citizen and she told me Years ago people were getting nervous about Muslim immigration,you get very lenient sentences for murder in Norway,which Americans will be finding out about soon. what we can take away from this is in a Socialist type of country with all the FEEL GOOD policies of welfare and NO death Penalty,No Guns, month long Vacations for everyone they have people sick enogh to kill CHILDREN over The Destruction of their country, where we March on Washington PEACEFULLY and wait for elections. Contrast this to the Left in this Country with the Union Thugs, Abortionists and Government Servants who Reign over the private sector. I think it is a Badge of Honor and a Measure of Human endurance beyond all imagination that so called Right wingers have remained as Peaceful as they have for so long in the Face of the Utter destruction of Common sense existence.
If these Morons want to revisit Oklahoma again,Bring it on! It was not talk radio it was a Nut reacting to the Murder of innocents by the ALMIGHTY Government,Ruby Ridge, Waco where yes Men Women and CHILDREN were Murdered By the GOVERNMENT. I dont Condone Murdering More men women and Children, the Eye for an eye,but I can understand how a Person can feel that way when an administration takes responsibility for something like that and NOTHING happens except to blame Talk Radio and real AMERICANS for causing those kind of actions,now we Better sit down and get the Duct tape because the pattern is going to repeat itself.
If you believe in TRADITONAL AMERICAN VALUES you are a Child Murdering,Racist Bigot,Homophobic Neanderthal,Welcome to the Club


82 posted on 07/24/2011 3:51:41 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Beaten Valve

Reichstagg Fire anyone?

JUst saying.

(IMHO)


83 posted on 07/24/2011 6:01:11 AM PDT by ripley
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To: SF_Redux

I just came back from Atlas’s site and it’s what I suspected. This guy is no more a Conservative Fundamentalist Christian than Bill Ayers, especially considering that his Facebook page seems to have been altered after he was in custody. I smell a deep, long term plot here, can anyone else say “expendable spy”? Try checking out Sun-Tsu or Machiavelli for ideas on this kind of attack and who would back it. Here’s a hint, it wasn’t us.


84 posted on 07/24/2011 7:28:35 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: pillut48; concerned about politics; Ptarmigan; HKMk23; cripplecreek; Quix
Just read this sentence (Saturday evening) and my red flags went up: "Police said the suspected gunman, Anders Behring Breivik, described as a Christian fundamentalist with extreme right-wing views, put up no resistance when officers finally arrived on Utoya to apprehend him."

As well they should have. Go over to Atlas Shrugged to see that there's evidence showing that there's at the very least an intentional twist to this, if not a full blown cover-up.

Simply put, smile everyone because you're being framed as a threat to world peace.

85 posted on 07/24/2011 7:37:43 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: paladin1_dcs

The fact that Norwegian churches are government funded and largely government controlled I have trouble believing that Christian fundamentalism could sprout there in any meaningful way.


86 posted on 07/24/2011 7:42:32 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: paladin1_dcs

INDEED.


87 posted on 07/24/2011 7:44:39 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Bryanw92

You have it exactly right!!


88 posted on 07/24/2011 8:01:18 AM PDT by cousair
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To: cripplecreek
The fact that Norwegian churches are government funded and largely government controlled I have trouble believing that Christian fundamentalism could sprout there in any meaningful way.

That may be so, but who are the majority of people going to believe? Us or those who label us as threats to World Peace? Europe has already proven it's willingness to believe anything that the Leftists tell them is true while the same people who elected Obama here in the USA aren't known for their Individualism and commitment to seek out the Truth of a matter. I don't think that this was done for Obama's benefit, but wait and see if he doesn't use this as a club against any Conservative politician who tries to oppose him or his ideas. If he uses this correctly and is able to convince the MSM to demonize us as threats to World Peace, he's just been guaranteed a second term.

89 posted on 07/24/2011 8:01:18 AM PDT by paladin1_dcs (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Ptarmigan

Apparently he won’t be, because Norway’s toughest punishment for bad crimes? 21 years in prison. :-o

Hopefully the families will have their pitchforks and torches ready when he gets out...>:-(


90 posted on 07/24/2011 8:21:33 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Earthdweller
"Their Labor party was anti-immigration...so the man shot the children of those he agrees with? HELLO..tap..tap..is anybody there?"
Their Labor Party is pro-Muslim immigration and anti-Israel. Jew-hate exposed on socialist youth camp on eve of massacre (Norway)
91 posted on 07/24/2011 8:23:03 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: kennyboy509
Maybe every body in NY is a dumb a$$ and Im wrong.

I work in NYC...Live on LI....you are not far off.....

So many people are beholden to the government for maintaining their way of life....it is depressing...so many have so little understanding of how being reliant upon the government has destroyed our nation....all they know is what the MSM tells them....and they repeat it like parrots....

It's like the liberal version of the Stepford wives...
92 posted on 07/24/2011 8:42:47 AM PDT by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: Beaten Valve

Not right wing extremism but normality........ coming soon for you MSM


93 posted on 07/24/2011 8:47:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: cripplecreek

And that’s down right scary, considering how far they have moved to the left.


94 posted on 07/25/2011 6:54:05 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...My theory is, college student body presidents become DEMS or RINO's.)
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To: newfreep
Any comments on leftwing socialism being responsible for 200 MILLION deaths in the 20th century?

You're too negative and hurtful focusing on the few bad apples, they'll get socialism/marxist right this time, they promised ...

95 posted on 07/25/2011 9:28:57 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon

LOL - that reminds me when Milton Friedman testified before Ted “the Red” Kennedy.

Friedman asked Ted the Red, “Socialism always fails so why do you continue to pursue a failed system?”

Ted: “Because it never had ME in charge!”

Stupidity meet Arrogance.


96 posted on 07/25/2011 9:36:57 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep
Ted: “Because it never had ME in Charge"

and it's great when you don't have to live in the devastation caused by their policies and programs. These tools think they know better because it's no worse for them

97 posted on 07/25/2011 9:50:26 AM PDT by NativeSon
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To: PigRigger

Thank you PigRigger!!!!!!!!


98 posted on 07/26/2011 6:35:54 AM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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