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The offender let out the video and manifesto on the Web [Norway shooter]
Google Oversetter ^ | 7-23-11 | TV2 (Norway)

Posted on 07/23/2011 3:02:51 PM PDT by Pharmboy

The video and the document should have been uploaded on the web a few hours before the bomb went off in downtown Oslo.

TV 2 know that the 32-year-old terror accused Oslo man has confessed to having published the material on the web. There are sources in the police confirming this to the TV 2

Anders Behring Breivik (32) Prior to the attacks, published a long manifesto and a video on the Internet, where he describes the attacks he was about to perform.

Both the video and the document is apparently published online on Friday 22 July - the day the attacks occurred.

"Marxist Hunter" It is about more than twelve minutes long video, which Behring Brevik compare themselves with Knights, and encourage a year-long war against Marxism and Islamism.

He has also published a manuscript of 1,500 pages which he explains very extreme political views. In addition, he describes in detail how an attack to be carried out. Everything from the use of the car bomb of the type of equipment to be used in an attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at translate.google.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: manifesto; norwayshooter
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Here's the manifesto...
1 posted on 07/23/2011 3:02:59 PM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy

So the guy is a self-declared “Marxist hunter”, and guns down 85 innocent kids?

Talk about a case of wrong targeting.


2 posted on 07/23/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pharmboy

his 1 year war didn’t last very long


3 posted on 07/23/2011 3:06:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: thefactor; neverdem; SunkenCiv; wagglebee; blam

What does not quite compute is that if he was such an anti-Islamist, why did he not attack them?


4 posted on 07/23/2011 3:06:38 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy

should have been uploaded on the web a few hours before the bomb went off in downtown Oslo-—————

Should have been?

I don’t buy it for one second.

No one finds that suspect?

Or how about the earlier reports it ‘should be a tall blonde’, not it ‘was a tall blonde’???


5 posted on 07/23/2011 3:07:31 PM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: Freddd

...and the “second shooter” on the island: where is he? How did the shooter get on the island? An escape boat to leave?


6 posted on 07/23/2011 3:09:10 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Freddd
Should have been? I don’t buy it for one second. No one finds that suspect?

Idioms and standard word usage don't always translate well from language to language. It's simply the way they speak.

7 posted on 07/23/2011 3:13:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pharmboy

You can’t reason with crazy.


8 posted on 07/23/2011 3:15:19 PM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: Pharmboy

BFL.


9 posted on 07/23/2011 3:16:33 PM PDT by blam
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To: Freddd
No one finds that suspect?

No one who understands that this is a Google translation from Norwegian to English does.

10 posted on 07/23/2011 3:16:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Windflier

I concur. Not buying this for second. Something stinks about this whole story. And if there is an ongoing investigation, why the hell are such details about the shooter leaking out?


11 posted on 07/23/2011 3:19:11 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Windflier

I concur. Not buying this for second. Something stinks about this whole story. And if there is an ongoing investigation, why the hell are such details about the shooter leaking out?


12 posted on 07/23/2011 3:20:13 PM PDT by jimjohn
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To: Pharmboy

This whole story stinks. It’s almost as if the media and Norwegians are racing to create a legend for him.....after the fact. No, something is rotten in the state of Norway, and it is the “facts” that the authorities have offered..


13 posted on 07/23/2011 3:20:17 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Sun-Tzu/Atilla 2012)
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To: Windflier

This nut job needs to die for this. I hope Norway has the good sense to execute him - 91 children, what a cowardly sack of shiite.


14 posted on 07/23/2011 3:20:43 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: Pharmboy

Interesting that the manifesto/photos say “Marxist” hunter.

That’s 0bama’s “brand” of Communism.

Coincidence?

Or is this following Omoslem’s UN gun-grabbing script?


15 posted on 07/23/2011 3:24:01 PM PDT by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: RC one

No capital punishment in Norway. Life is the best you can hope for.
GG


16 posted on 07/23/2011 3:29:17 PM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: Pharmboy

If you read the manifesto, he devotes much space to labeling and classifying various types of “traitors” - including the Norwegian Labour Party. Like a lot of fanatics, he hates his own people that he considers “traitors” more than his declared enemy “Muslims.”


17 posted on 07/23/2011 3:30:30 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: cardinal4

The manifesto wasn’t leaked by authorities, I believe it was simply found on the web.

I can’t conceive of any way that it’s a fake, by the way; 1,500 pages.


18 posted on 07/23/2011 3:31:35 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: Goldwater Girl

And, someone yesterday here said “life” in Norway is 21 years, and with good behavior...14 years.....the guy needs to be chopping wood or breaking rocks for the rest of his physical life...all alone....somewhere really hot or cold...


19 posted on 07/23/2011 3:36:27 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Windflier
So the guy is a self-declared “Marxist hunter”, and guns down 85 innocent kids?

What's got me confused is the kids. I can understand his disdain for Marxism, but why the kids? What would the kids have to do with this? It doesn't make sense.

20 posted on 07/23/2011 3:39:25 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics
What's got me confused is the kids. I can understand his disdain for Marxism, but why the kids? What would the kids have to do with this?

The only possible logical connection, is that the kids were participating in a political retreat/field trip of some sort, and they had 'voted' in favor of Palestinian statehood, or somesuch.

21 posted on 07/23/2011 3:43:13 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Strategerist

What is wierd is the quick characterization by the press of this guy as a right-wing Christian fundamentalist. Anyone who has studied the Knights Templar will know that Christian fundamentalists are diametrically opposed this group and what they believe.

We are being fed disinformation from someone, perhaps by the translaters, the press, or the government, I’m not sure.


22 posted on 07/23/2011 3:45:01 PM PDT by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: TigersEye
No one who understands that this is a Google translation from Norwegian to English does.

Give Google a day or 2.

They'll have it translated to a 1500 page love letter to Sarah Palin.

23 posted on 07/23/2011 3:45:55 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Pharmboy
"What does not quite compute is that if he was such an anti-Islamist, why did he not attack them?"
His logic, as warped as it may be, was that without the Socialists in government pushing for Muslim immigration and multiculturalism, there would be no "Muslim problem". The summer camp for "kids" (if you want to call ages 16-22 kids) was run by the Labor Party, hardcore Socialists. Not to defend the killing, but there is a certain kind of grim logic to it.
24 posted on 07/23/2011 3:47:00 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

He’s clearly not a Christian fundamentalist in the American sense of the term. I could clearly see how he would be perceived as a Christian fundamentalist from a European perspective (advocating forced conversion of Muslims to Christianity, etc.)


25 posted on 07/23/2011 3:49:57 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: RC one
This nut job needs to die for this. I hope Norway has the good sense to execute him - 91 children, what a cowardly sack of shiite.

Well, before they execute him, I want to hear him take ownership of the narrative that's being constructed about him.

Too much about this whole thing is just terribly convenient for the left-liberal kooks who'd like to have every patriotic conservative rounded up and thrown in a gulag.

Didn't we just see the report that DHS put out a bunch of videos about homegrown terrorism featuring white males as the antagonists in every single one? In the same week, Rasmussen comes out with the results of polling which indicate that white males of every age and demographic are abandoning the Democrats and joining the Republicans.

I don't want to whip out the tin foil or anything, but I don't think Nappy and Obie are going to let this crisis go to waste.

26 posted on 07/23/2011 3:51:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Strategerist

He signed with the title:

“Justicia Knight Commander, Knights Templar Europe, the Knights Templar Norway.”

Am doing a further search of this...but it appears this stems from his Masonary envolvement...

IMO...between the video games of war he loved, his political leanings, his Masonic Rituals, and hatred for his gov. not acting against multiculturism etc. And further that those who he spoke with saw him as way out to the right wing enough they would not give him the notoriety he sought. Well there you have it...a nut job in the making.


27 posted on 07/23/2011 3:52:18 PM PDT by caww
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To: Pharmboy

it’s a wonder he hit anyone with all that crap hanging on the end of the barrel. mind that is a mini 14, so maybe the accuracy couldn’t be made any worse.


28 posted on 07/23/2011 3:59:20 PM PDT by Jeff Vader (Palin 2012)
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To: Pharmboy

Apparently, he realized that the islamists wouldn’t do any good, so he went after the Norwegian politicians who cowtow to those islamic jihadist immigrants.


29 posted on 07/23/2011 4:00:55 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Windflier

I will agree with all of that 4 sure.


30 posted on 07/23/2011 4:01:22 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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The movie, the timing, the manipulations, the MEDIA talking heads spewing their "spin", the magically appearing manifesto, this whole created "thing" is yet another Reischtag fire set by the LEFT. And people are completely buying into it.
31 posted on 07/23/2011 4:05:35 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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The movie, the timing, the manipulations, the MEDIA....

I agree. I believe people can "sense" when something isn't right, and something isn't right about this story.
People "know" OJ killed his wife. People "know" Anthony killed her daughter. People "know" something stinks in Norway, even though right now there's no logical way to explain it.

32 posted on 07/23/2011 4:10:26 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: pyx

The perp is alive, is a real person, and is talking to the cops.

I can’t conceive of how the manifesto could be fake (I mean, of course anyone can write a document and post it on the internet, but far too much of it matches his postings in other places, has confirmable details about his life history, etc.)

Wishful thinking isn’t evidence.


33 posted on 07/23/2011 4:12:35 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: Strategerist
Here's the video.
34 posted on 07/23/2011 4:23:44 PM PDT by ResearchMonkey (Holding Conservative Country in California.)
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To: goodnesswins

21 years? How enlightened.


35 posted on 07/23/2011 4:25:39 PM PDT by Goldwater Girl
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To: Strategerist

Didn’t a lot of labor party leaders attend that camp during their youth?


36 posted on 07/23/2011 4:26:34 PM PDT by ahe
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To: cardinal4

What specifically “stinks” about it? It makes total sense from everything I’ve seen.


37 posted on 07/23/2011 4:35:40 PM PDT by RDAardvark (Fast-forward to Jan 20th 2013, please.)
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To: ahe

My understanding is that it’s a camp for future leaders in the party.


38 posted on 07/23/2011 4:40:46 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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To: RDAardvark

It’s too pat. I can’t put my finger on it, but something ain’t right..


39 posted on 07/23/2011 4:49:26 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Sun-Tzu/Atilla 2012)
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To: Strategerist
The perp is alive, is a real person, and is talking to the cops.

Yup. He might talk. Unless someone pulls a "Jack Ruby" and does a "Lee Harvey Oswald" on him. But the LEFT would never do that.

40 posted on 07/23/2011 4:50:20 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Strategerist
"Like a lot of fanatics, he hates his own people that he considers 'traitors' more than his declared enemy Muslims"

Can I get a badge or an ID of some sort?

Who is the threat to the USA? Gadaffi or Obama? Ethiopian refugees or the American left?


41 posted on 07/23/2011 4:51:08 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: RDAardvark
What specifically “stinks” about it? It makes total sense from everything I’ve seen.

I don't know. People seem to be spending more time on "right wing extremist" than the details of the story. It's like the facts behind the story are irrelevant compared to the "right wing hate" angle.
It's like the Oboma administration claiming a terrorist attack is not a terrorist attack in less than one minute after it happens, because he wants to show sensitivity to a muslim. It's like blaming the Tea Party after the congresswoman got shot by a left wing psycho.

I suppose it would be best to wait until the whole story comes out. The left jumped on this one a little too fast, and that's always a red flag.

42 posted on 07/23/2011 4:56:13 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Strategerist

I just pinged you to this on another thread. He anglicized his name. He spent years on this.


43 posted on 07/23/2011 5:02:50 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Information on the Masonic Knights Templar’s I noted when studying Freemasons a few years ago, you are correct Christian fundamentalists oppose these organizations.

An accurate portrayal of true Freemasonry, which is based on Kabbalism ‘assimilated by the Knights Templar’ who occupied the Holy Land during the Crusades..... The Masonic emphasis on Old Testament types and figures is, in fact, derived from Kabbalah, which symbolism is designed to lead men into the ancient mysteries.

‘All Knights Templar are members of the world’s oldest fraternal organization known as ‘The Ancient Free and Accepted Masons’ or more commonly known as ‘masons.’........ However, not all masons are Templars. Templary is but a part of the Masonic structure known as the ‘York Rite of Freemasonry.’”

According to Masons:

The Rank of ‘Knight Commander’ of the Court of Honor is not a Degree, but an Investiture, bestowed upon members deserving recognition for faithful services to the Rite or to mankind. At the biennial session of the Supreme Council, certain Masters of the Royal Secret are chosen to be invested with the Rank and Decoration of Knight Commander of the Court of Honour. The respective Sovereign Grand Inspectors General or Deputies nominate members for this honor, and they must also be unanimously approved by The Supreme Council.

This Investiture is a prerequisite to receiving the Thirty-third Degree.


44 posted on 07/23/2011 5:05:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: Windflier

While skirting the net for other information on this guy I ran across some saying that Norway supports Hamas. I didn’t look further on that nor where their leaderships policy is on that. But interesting it was in several locations.


45 posted on 07/23/2011 5:09:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

And there are many Muslim Masons in the World. So?


46 posted on 07/23/2011 5:24:11 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Pharmboy
Funny that his book cover is photo-shopped with an English title. Or is google-translate sophisticated enough now to translate words in the middle of a picture?

Not likely.

47 posted on 07/23/2011 5:47:05 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: Pharmboy

That is weird, eh?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2752891/posts


48 posted on 07/23/2011 5:50:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ResearchMonkey

video on youtube removed


49 posted on 07/23/2011 5:59:53 PM PDT by BonRad (Ut Roma cadit, sic omnis terra -As Rome falls, so the entire world)
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To: MestaMachine

Just made an interesting discovery in his manifesto...

He was on steroids.

“So what do I do when I’m not working? I’m in the middle of another steroid cycle at the moment, training hard to exceed my 92 kg record from July. I’m currently at 90 kg and hope to reach at least 95 kg. Perhaps ill even reach 100 kg before I end the cycle in 4 week’s time!:-) I have a more or less perfect body at the moment and I’m as happy as I have ever been.”

‘Roid rage could be a component of this - however this act was premeditated for years, not some sudden snapping.


50 posted on 07/23/2011 6:04:17 PM PDT by Strategerist (There is only so much stupidity one man can prevent - Andrew Marshall)
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