Retired Military Translator's Home Reportedly Raided in DEA Mix-Up

myfoxdetroit.com ^ | July 31, 2011 | myFoxDetroit.com

[Lazamataz]

"Oh Father Above, I seldom ask for anything....."

[Berlin_Freeper]

And you are smart enough to post what story you are talking about?

[NFHale]

Easy there, fella. I understand you’re a cop and you’re probably a decent guy too. The sarcasm is good; I got a chuckle out of it - especially the “pagan rituals to the Nazi gods while on a direct line with the Bilderberg group” part. Nice touch.

But unfortunately, historical examples are what they are.

If my statement was over the top to you, you have my apologies. But that doesn’t change the fact of what I said.

If you personally were ordered to go door to door to collect citizens firearms, would you do it (rhetorical question).

If you answer yes, well, then you prove my point. If no, then I’ll call you brother, and have your six anytime you need it.

Think about cops like the assh*le in Canton Ohio who threatened to murder a citizen in cold blood - right there on his own dash cam, and his partner who did nothing to defuse the situation.

That’s what a lot of people see when they think of modern cops.

Again - that’s probably not you. But it only takes one assh*le like that to sour people’s views.

I can pretty much guess what his answer would be to the question I posed.

[Mr Rogers]

Don’t film the police, either - not even with permission:

News Cameraman Arrested For Filming Police Chase

“Mr. Datz called Suffolk County Police Public Information Officer to get permission which was granted, Mr Datz was still arrested while filming from one block away on a public street...”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2756944/posts

[Berlin_Freeper]

OK, “small error”.

Happy now?

[JoeFromSidney]

If someone's banging on the door and you don't know who it is, don't open the door. Call the cops. Tell the dispatcher it's not anyone you know, and you're afraid criminals or terrorists are attacking. Maybe they'll manage to put 2 and 2 together.

[brent13a]

If you personally were ordered to go door to door to collect citizens firearms, would you do it (rhetorical question).

No. ( and you can chose to believe this or not) The three of us on our squad have made a personal pact, if there is ever a nationalization of police or 'national orders' (for any other reason except say armageddon from china or north korea etc) our PD is deserted and our badges are on the booking room floor. We all have families to protect.

Think about cops like the assh*le in Canton Ohio who threatened to murder a citizen in cold blood - right there on his own dash cam, and his partner who did nothing to defuse the situation.

My squad is no stranger to FR and they know I read it often. Whenever I see this crap I bring it up and we discuss it. Every time we've discussed bad cop stories we've all been in agreement that they were a bad cop.

Lurker always wants to know what I am doing to fix this problem. Well I'm no superhero but I make sure I keep up on the law and especially keep up on the bad-cop news stories to keep me on the straight and narrow. Our whole cadre of officers just this year got policy changed at our PD, nothing mindblowing but some stuff got changed for the better with regards to how things are done and it is beneficial to the public.

Unlike Lurker I don't have personal delusions of grandeur with how important I am. It's not going to be what I have necessarily already done to "fix things" it's what I'm willing or NOT willing to do if the proverbial sh*t ever truly hits the fan.

[NFHale]

“...No. ( and you can chose to believe this or not) ...”

I do believe you, believe it or not.

If that’s the case, you’re a good man, and a good American, brother.

Hope to God there’s more like you.

[Mr Rogers]

FWIW, most cops I’ve dealt with have been professional.

The neighborhood where I live is a bit off the beaten path. A house on fire up the street took 15 minutes for a fire truck to arrive. The one time I know of where the cops were called for someone trying to open a window at night, it took close to 20 minutes. (I told the lady if it happened again to call me. I’m about 2 minutes away by car.) We’re also 60 miles from Mexico.

So when there is a disturbance of some sort, I get a gun before I go looking. My problem is with SWAT teams and forced entries. If the address is wrong - and it sometimes is - then an innocent person is in danger from the SWAT team.

SWAT makes sense for hostage situations. For serving a warrant? Not so much sense. And if the knock on the door doesn’t allow a homeowner time to get to the door, it is effectively a no-knock forced entry.

[Mr Rogers]

One other story...

When I was getting my CCW license, the retired cop teaching the class was asked about procedures when stopped by the police. He explained what the law said & how he handled it.

Since the law in AZ doesn’t require you to reveal a concealed gun unless asked, he said he kept silent. That was due to an incident a year earlier, when he was stopped for speeding (which he was guilty of) and he volunteered that he was carry a concealed weapon. He said the cop drew his Glock, stuck it next to his face, and told him, “Don’t move! Hand it over!”

The guy’s response was, without moving, “I’m a retired cop and I will do what you say, but I need to know if you want me to stay still, or to move my hand to give the gun to you.” It ended peaceably, but he decided after that to keep quiet (per AZ law) unless asked.

[Vor Lady]

This guy never noticed someone else using the home he rents as a mailing address and put an end to it?

This is not as easy as it sounds. We bought our house new. We have been the only ones to have lived in it. We tried to sell by owner a few years ago and someone who came through on an open house used our address to get a driver's license, checking account and who knows what else. After the Sheriff's office told me they were hunting this person, I went to the post office to stop the deliveries of this criminal's mail coming to our house. The post office was not at all helpful, but filled in the forms that only mail with our last name on it would be delivered. Now we not only get the original huckster's mail we are getting someone else's. Our address, their name. The USPS assures us the original 'do not deliver' order is in force.

[brent13a]

SWAT makes sense for hostage situations. For serving a warrant? Not so much sense.

I've discussed this ad nauseum with many officers. My POV is, I already wear a dark almost black uniform for regular duty, I already have on a BP vest for regular duty, I already have my batman utility belt on for duty, I already carry 2-3 guns on my body for regular duty....and I'm already on duty.......so why in the world should there be a SWAT/ERT for anything except the most extreme situations? Even for extreme situations I have a SBR and an LBR in my trunk just in case.

Even in my medium sized town my squad has responded to man with gun calls and handled them with extreme prejudice and just like a 'swat team' would because we've all had the training. We were able to handle the situation without ever calling out a swat.

Personally I prefer we handle it ourselves because it really makes the sphincters of the scum of our town quiver when they hear that we've been regulating sh*t ourselves and not having to call in outside assholes.

Most of us are 30 years old on our night shifts. Many of us have been in the USMC, and a lot of the local scum take our PD for granted, like it was thought of back before we were cops. They still think we're do-dicks who just drive around town aimlessly.

That is until, for instance, last month when we had a rash of car break-ins that progressed to home invasions & the whole town was scared sh*tless. So on my nightshift we would wait until the wee hours of the morning and go to the area where we thought our suspect was. We weren't in anything but our duty uniforms with our duty weapons. After 3 nights we spotted the piece of filth and before he could blink we were flew out of the shadows of the night and had him wrapped up like a doughy pretzel. None of them knew what had happened. We scared him and his friends so sh*tless he & his accomplice were confessing before we confronted him with all the evidence we had against him.

It was 90+ degrees out and we were sweating our balls off in our BP vests and duty uniforms but we used our ninja skills and persevered. We didn't need to call out SWAT or any BS like that because thats how we roll here.

When I got an arrestee in my car and he realizes that I have shotgun locked to my dash they usually say "wow" then get quiet. I then usually inform them they should have a look-see in my squad car's trunk and get a gander at the arsenal I keep in there. They never have much to say after that. Like I said they never think we're serious until we got them rolled up like a wet paper towel or stick a giant rifle up their nose.

[B4Ranch]

>>I have to wonder where/when does this lopsided aggression get started.<

Are you blowing smoke or what? What do you think socialist governments are all about? OBEY the government or else! Don't you recognize the turn America has taken in the past 40 years? We are trying so hard to become 100% socialist that I could scream.

Agenda 21 Part I: A Global Economic Disaster in the Making

Agenda 21 Part II: Globalist Totalitarian Dictatorship Invading a Town Near You – With Your Permission

[brent13a]

>>I have to wonder where/when does this lopsided aggression get started.< Are you blowing smoke or what? What do you think socialist governments are all about? OBEY the government or else! Don't you recognize the turn America has taken in the past 40 years? We are trying so hard to become 100% socialist that I could scream.

Agenda 21 Part I: A Global Economic Disaster in the Making

Agenda 21 Part II: Globalist Totalitarian Dictatorship Invading a Town Near You – With Your Permission

I'm sorry to disappoint you but as a police officer in a medium sized town in Illinois I have ZERO input on this Agenda 21 plan. I also have ZERO input on whatever socialist plan Obama has up his sleeve. There is no direct line from Bilderberg to my PD. Most cops are just cops, some bad most good. The 'lopsided agression' SHOULD be directed at the people responsible for Agenda 21 and Bilderberg, etc. Unfortunately I guess it's easiest to target the cops because we're just out here and visible day in and day out. It's easier to target the police as the constant boogie man, the face of the socialist enemy and it's hard to target those truly responsible.

I guess it shouldn't surprise me that so many people would be lazy about whom they blame, Americans are inherently lazy these days and it would take more effort to target those truly responsible.

[TigersEye]

I don’t know what happened but Magistrates need to be held accountable for signing off on these kind of weak excuses for investigation. This isn’t just some local sheriff and small town judge either these are Feds. It’s not just a paperwork screw up that costs the victim a wad of money to straighten out either. Lives are very much put in jeopardy by these clown posse antics. Heads need to roll for it. Careers and pensions need to be axed.

[B4Ranch]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2724518/posts?page=10#10

[dcwusmc]

You forgot one: there is ZERO Constitutional authority for ANY of the fedgov agencies you mentioned to even EXIST. Since there are only three crimes fedgov has constitutional jurisdiction over, and bank robbery or kidnapping are NOT THEM, no FBI. Since there’s no constitutional authority for fedgov to declare a war on the American people by banning ANY substance, recreational or medicinal, no DEA. And since infringing on RKBA violates the Second Amendment, and that is ALL the BATFags are about, no ATF. If we are going to tout a return to the Constitution, we must embrace ALL the limitations on government, not just the ones that please us.

[dennisw]

I support you and all police. Screw the freeper naysayers. Just please urge your fellow officers to not use Fido for target practice.

[Mr Rogers]

brent13a, please return the USA to strict Constitutional government ASAP. That will include balancing the budget. I’d like to see results NLT Thursday.

Thank you. < / sarcasm >

[Mr.Unique]

It is becoming obvious that BF is doing nothing but trying to irritate.