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Perry in Dead heat with Obama in New Gallup Poll
KGNB (Texas) ^ | August 23, 2011

Posted on 08/23/2011 7:09:19 AM PDT by AAABEST

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To: dennisw
I think Palin ruined it for Palin. I actually thought she was going to be a good candidate until I saw “Sarah Palin’s Alaska”. Not that the show was bad or she was nuts or anything. She just looked like a woman trying too hard, absorbed with herself and an image she was trying to portray. Her dad and her husband seemed cool though.
121 posted on 08/23/2011 11:03:49 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Polybius; SatinDoll

You are wrong...Vice President Spiro Agnew’s father was naturalized 7 years before his birth. We all know about Arthur hiding the fact he was not legally a NBC. 14th Amendment has NOTHING whatsoever to do with NBC.


122 posted on 08/23/2011 11:04:37 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: shield; HerrBlucher
A FReeper called his office yesterday and asked them the question of eligibility...they told her YES. I told her to call them back and take it a step further...saying how can he be eligible when his parents were born in Cuba...then see what they cough up...if they claim they were naturalized citizens when he was born...tell them NO they weren't. His dad became naturalized years after Marco's birth.

If they know what they are taliking about, they "cough up" the U.S. Constitution and U.S. History.

See Post 118.

You, shield, are trying to substitute the 14th Amendment with U.S. laws that apply to children born OUTSIDE of the U.S.

The 1920 U.S. Census shows Vice President Spiro Agnew's father was not naturalized when Spiro was born.

Spiro Agnew's Father was a Non-Citizen U.S. Census 1920, U.S. Bureau of the Census

123 posted on 08/23/2011 11:09:27 AM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama is Priority Number One)
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To: normy

At this point Sarah Palin is a celebrity/media figure. Not a politician. She has been out of office a few years. It is too late for her to get in....she should give speeches and rake in the money like she has been doing. I have nothing against her but her time has passed.


124 posted on 08/23/2011 11:13:05 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: Polybius

Are you saying then that a native born citizen is also automatically a natural born citizen regardless of the status of the parents?


125 posted on 08/23/2011 11:19:05 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged." G.K. Chesterton)
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To: dennisw

I actually don’t have any thing against her either, but her supporters seem to think she is infallible. I see her as a piece to a bigger puzzle. She has her role for sure,even in government if she wants, but President is not it.


126 posted on 08/23/2011 11:20:40 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Polybius
“If you are born on U.S. soil from legal immigrants “under the jusrisdiction thereof”, all those details are irrelevant as you are a natural born U.S. citizen according to the 14th Amendment.”

The above is false.
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THE EXPRESS LANE TO NATURAL BORN CLARITY

The US Supreme Court definition of an Article 2 Section 1 natural-born citizen as stated in Minor v Happersett [1874] is strictly limited to those persons born in the United States to parents who were citizens...

The Supreme Court in Minor specifically avoided construing the 14th Amendment as to the issue of whether Virginia Minor was a US citizen. Instead, the Court looked no further than the natural-born citizen clause in Article 2 Section 1. The Court held that Minor was a member of the “class” of persons who were natural-born citizens. They defined this class as those born in the US to “parents” (plural) who were citizens.

[snip]

ONLY NATIONAL LAW MAKES BINDING PRECEDENT.

The Supreme Court’s definition of the natural-born citizen clause in Minor is not common law, natural law, or international law. Vattel is not cited by the Supreme Court in Minor. And Vattel does not make US law. The Court’s holding in Minor is national law. It is United States law.

Those other sources may have been consulted, but when the Court held that Minor was a citizen under Article 2 Section 1 because she was born in the US of citizen parents, that definition became national law. Therefore, Minor supersedes all other sources on this point. It is a direct Constitutional interpretation and definition.

Leo Donofrio, esq.
http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/30/the-express-lane-to-natural-born-clarity/

127 posted on 08/23/2011 11:21:21 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Polybius

You are purposefully spreading disinformation.


128 posted on 08/23/2011 11:22:48 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: dennisw

I really despise those tv commercials for class action law suits.


129 posted on 08/23/2011 11:27:12 AM PDT by mel
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To: shield

“I didn’t know Gore ran for President in 1988? You might either get your facts straight or quit your lying.”

You really should do your homework before you make yourself look the fool.

“On 11 April 1987, Senator Gore of Tennessee announced his candidacy. He stated that he believed he could offer, “clearer goals” than the other candidates.[1] Current Texas Governor, Republican Rick Perry, who at the time was a Democrat, was Gore’s campaign chairman in Texas for his 1988 campaign.[2] During the Democratic debate, Gore argued that his foreign policy platform was different from his rivals, but they disagreed. “ ‘I reject Gore’s efforts to try to pin labels,’ Representative Richard A. Gephardt of Missouri told reporters after the event.” [3] At the time of the announcement, Senator Gore was 39 years old, making him the “youngest serious Presidential candidate since John F. Kennedy.” [4]”


130 posted on 08/23/2011 11:31:36 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Polybius; Red Steel
The original entry for the 1910 U.S. Census very definitely reports his father was a naturalized U.S. citizen eight years before the birth of his son. The draft registration reports he was a naturalized U.S. citizen no less than two months before the birth of his son. 1920 Census reported him AL...yet, previous records show him to have been a naturalized citizen before Spiro Agnew's birth.

Both parents must be citizens upon the birth of a child to be considered a NBC and qualify to run for President or VP. IF this was false then why did all others who've been VP or President meet the proper requirements? With the exception of Arthur who went to GREAT lengths to hide is disqualification.

131 posted on 08/23/2011 11:34:56 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: dennisw

I think you nailed it perfectly, she is not prepared to be President, but then again Obama was not either, but look where that got us.


132 posted on 08/23/2011 11:37:01 AM PDT by mel
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To: Howie66
Sorry...I knew Perry was campaign manager for Gore in 1988...and had forgotten Gore even ran for president back then.

Chalk it up to a learning experience: support for Al Gore, Jr.

As for supporting and leading the campaign for Al Gore, Jr. in 1988, Perry was in pretty good company. Quite a few conservative Texas Democrats supported Gore in that election, among them were former governor Dolph Briscoe and Texas State House Speaker Gib Lewis.

Whatever Perry's detractors may say, Al Gore was still seen by most southern Democrats as a moderate with votes against federal funding of abortions, laws restricting the interstate sale of firearms, and in support of a moment of silent prayer in schools.

Perry says that it was during that campaign, that he came to realize just how liberal his Democrat Party had become and it was for that reason that he chose to switch parties in 1989. One only has to look at the percentage of those in Congress who get re-elected year after year in the face of the continued low favor-ability numbers revealed in polls after poll to understand just how difficult it is for people to turn from what is familiar and comfortable and to embrace what is new no matter how logical such a move may seem.

Perry's change of party came just in time to run for him to run for the position of Commissioner of the Texas Department of Agriculture against Jim Hightower (one of the most liberal politicians ever to curse Texas) whom he defeated in 1990. Was there a degree of opportunism involved? Very possibly, but he wouldn't be the first politician to see the writing on the wall and make the expedient choice and his leap was consistent with the values he has espoused his entire life.

Rick Perry's conservatism has never wavered. While still a Democrat in the Texas House of Representative, Perry distinguished himself as a fierce fiscal conservative always arguing for more austere budgets. His stands on abortion, gay marriage, gun rights, the intrusion of the federal government into traditionally state issues, the courts, and the Constitution are all consistent with traditional conservative values.

He has his flaws, foremost among them is his stand on illegal immigration, but in politics, as in life, the search for perfection is a futile, vain effort.

For Republicans, Rick Perry is the real deal; a conservative in the traditional sense, not a George W. Bush "compassionate conservative."

133 posted on 08/23/2011 12:28:01 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Polybius
Sarah Palin's support is a mile deep and an inch wide. That is why "The Undefeated" absolutely bombed at the box office.

As I understand it, the film had amazing per-screen average numbers.

134 posted on 08/23/2011 12:33:54 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
As I understand it, the film had amazing per-screen average numbers.

For the first week, on 40 screens, it did $6513 per. When they expanded it after a week to 55 screens, it dropped to $1762. A week later, on 77 screens, it did $1270. And in its last week of theatrical exhibition, on 93 screens, it did $1234.

135 posted on 08/23/2011 12:43:01 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: SatinDoll
You are purposefully spreading disinformation.

What he's saying isn't any different from what any real expert on the subject will tell you. I suggest you expand your knowledge beyond what some bloggers on the Internet are saying.

136 posted on 08/23/2011 1:50:36 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
For the first week, on 40 screens, it did $6513 per.

That's a pretty amazing opening. I'm sure they recouped a lot of their expenses right there.

137 posted on 08/23/2011 1:50:40 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
That's a pretty amazing opening. I'm sure they recouped a lot of their expenses right there.

Not really. The film cost $1 million. It's total box office over the four weeks was $116,381.

Box Office Mojo further crunches the numbers:

To put these numbers into further perspective: The Undefeated's ten theaters on opening weekend yielded 159 showings. Using the current average ticket price of $7.86, that means the movie played to an estimated 52 people per average showing or at about one-fifth to one-quarter capacity. In the movie's second weekend, which had 211 showings, the per-showing average attendance dropped to 15.

Also, I was reading the wrong column on the weekly screen totals: The film screened on 10 screens its first weekend, 14 the second, 4 the third and 2 the fourth and last weekend. Mea culpa.
138 posted on 08/23/2011 2:07:27 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Kleon

I suggest you go back to your Democrat masters and tell them they will be out of power soon, and the treason charges will follow.


139 posted on 08/23/2011 2:12:00 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
YO TexasFreeper2009 - Check your spelling...raped?

Yea...that's what we need...another Texas cowboy who is just another RINO. Sorry...your boy is not going to make it...the media hasn't even begun to tear him apart.

140 posted on 08/23/2011 2:25:46 PM PDT by Bobbisox (All American Conservative Freeper, vicious Mama Grizzly, and a**PALIN PATRIOT**)
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