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Christian Professor Claims Genetics Disproves Historical Adam
Institute for Creation Research ^
| 8-26-11
| Brian Thomas
Posted on 08/27/2011 10:07:19 AM PDT by fishtank
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To: ZULU
"I believe in the Biblical Story of Creation AND I believe in Evolution. They are NOT mutually exclusive"Exactly
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:40:22 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
To: Lady Jag
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:40:58 AM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
To: UCANSEE2
God is the Supreme Being, Infinitely Perfect, who made all things and keeps them in existence.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:43:39 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Chris Wallace is a flake.)
To: Jack Hydrazine
Evolution addresses the how; religion addresses the why. The two really don’t cross much at all, and trying to force each study to cover the other is when you run into problems.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:43:55 AM PDT
by
FromTheSidelines
("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
To: UCANSEE2
"I think the biggest problem in the discussion of GOD and EVOLUTION is that the term EVOLUTION is only loosely defined and understood by the public, and is misused in debate and conversation."TRUE
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:44:12 AM PDT
by
Matchett-PI
(Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
To: fishtank
Forget the Bible, there’s too much discussion of Adam and Eve in midrashic sources to believe that it’s all fabricated and that they were not historical people. The “Book of Adam and Eve” can probably be found on the web.
To: ZULU
I agree. In my view, God gave us our soul and that is what lives forever and longs to be back with Him. Without that, we are just a bunch of hairless apes.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:45:48 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: ZULU
I don't think there is any issue with Natural Selection within our species, i.e. why subsets of the Human species are highly variable in terms of hair, skin, body size, etc. Look at what we were able to do over just few thousand years with conscious selection of dogs and other species of domesticated animals. Even the probable mix of Neanderthal genetic material I carry as a descendant (mainly) of Caucasian ancestors to me means that those burly fellows with the barrel chests and receding chins (and larger than "modern" human brains) were part of our species and not much more different than a 7 foot Watusi is from a Bush Pygmy.
Where I fell off the evolution band wagon and began to doubt a dozen years of solid indoctrination was the complete lack of evidence for trans-speciation (sp?) and how little physical fossil evidence is actually out there for older extinct primate species. The presumption that those ancient chimps changed over time into modern humans is a nice theory but (IMHO) it has yet to be proven. Plus, since all humans but no other modern primates possess certain traits that are only seen in aquatic mammals (furless, large brained, subcutaneous fat layers, with slightly webbed fingers and toes) I think the experts are looking in all the wrong places for our ancestral stock.
Therefore, if by "evolution" you mean change over time within species (that one can in good faith believe were created by a benevolent G*d) there is no conflict. But self-described "evolutionists" these days tend to also be vocal atheists who push their beliefs well past where physical evidence warrants.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:45:56 AM PDT
by
katana
(Just my opinions)
To: dhs12345
Just because I picked the Nom de Plume “ZULU” everyone assumes I’m black. Guess they never saw the movie “ZULU” with Stanley Baker. I’m NOT Black and Danny Glover is a mental midget.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:46:42 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Chris Wallace is a flake.)
To: fishtank
National Public Radio recently interviewed Trinity Western University biologist Dennis Venema, who stated his belief that humans did not descend from Adam and Eve.1 Venema, an evangelical evolutionist, claimed that genetics studies show "there is no way we can be traced back to a single couple."2 Do the data really contradict the biblical account of human history? The literal DNA data does NOT contradict the biblical account. Genesis 1:26 is the flesh men/women created on the sixth day.... (course Peter says that a day with the LORD is as a thousand years...) And the Genesis 2 account where it says there was NO one to tend the 'garden' or otherwise called farmer. Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 according to what Peter says in the Heavenly Father's methodology of calculating 'time' are at minimum 2 and most 3 thousand years apart.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:46:42 AM PDT
by
Just mythoughts
(Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
To: GreyFriar
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:47:25 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Chris Wallace is a flake.)
To: fishtank
If there is no first Adam then there can be no ‘2nd Adam’ hence no ‘Gospel’, no ‘Good News’, no hope for anything beyond the here and now. Christianity without Adam is meaningless....
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:47:40 AM PDT
by
yadent
To: fishtank
It must have been the Nephilim that added diversity.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:49:29 AM PDT
by
ThomasThomas
( Congressmen should wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers, so we can identify their corporate sponsors.)
To: GreyFriar
nope we are featherless bipeds according to Plato
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:49:32 AM PDT
by
yldstrk
(My heroes have always been cowboys)
To: katana
Well, the fossil record seems to indicate that those “intermediate” creatures existed once at a time when other creatures did not exist. The fossil records is a snapshot in time of a breeding population. He provides precious little about where that population PRECISELY came from and where it PRECISELY went. A lot of the pre-modern humans may have been dead-ends, biologically.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:51:31 AM PDT
by
ZULU
(Chris Wallace is a flake.)
To: fishtank
God added diversity, or dna change, as needed.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:53:14 AM PDT
by
ken21
(ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
To: Matchett-PI; UCANSEE2; Slings and Arrows; martin_fierro; potlatch; SandRat; LUV W; Lucky9teen; ...
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:53:49 AM PDT
by
Lady Jag
(Keep the 'ICk" in Democratic)
To: ZULU
Color has nothing to do with it. Have you seen the video?
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:54:07 AM PDT
by
dhs12345
To: yldstrk
That too. It’s been too many decades since I last read Plato.
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:58:06 AM PDT
by
GreyFriar
(Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
To: UCANSEE2
Entirely too complex ~ note, though, “everybody” has a liver. Not “everybody” has a heart!
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posted on
08/27/2011 10:59:05 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
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