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A two-man GOP presidential race? (Perry v Romney)
LA Times ^ | August 28, 2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 08/29/2011 10:24:14 AM PDT by AAABEST

Until a few weeks ago, the race for the Republican presidential nomination seemed wide open. There was a presumptive front-runner, Mitt Romney, but he held first place mostly because he was a familiar face; his support among Republican voters appeared broad but not deep.

Many conservatives at the party's core weren't happy with Romney, and a line of would-be champions has auditioned for their support, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann. But none of them succeeded in knocking Romney off his perch.

Until now. Only two weeks after entering the race, Texas Gov. Rick Perry has abruptly leapt to the top of nationwide polls.

First, the polls. Last week the Gallup Poll showed Perry leading the field with support from 29% of Republican voters, with Romney at 17% and Texas Rep. Ron Paul at 13%. (Other surveys came up with similar results.) Perry's 29% was a stronger showing than Romney had enjoyed in most polls all year.

Though Perry is running strongest among conservatives, who make up a big majority of the GOP electorate, he has attracted a wider range of Republicans as well: high income and low income, college educated and blue collar, Northern and Southern. Some of Perry's support came from former Bachmann voters, but much of it came from voters who once preferred Romney — an ominous finding for the former front-runner, who still has a slight edge among moderates in the party.

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KEYWORDS: perry; rinofreeamerica; romeny
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
She will declare once the RINO cowboy has been properly vetted.

Oh really? Did she tell you this. Haha.

You're just pissin' in the wind until she's a candidate. Just think how smart you'll feel if she doesn't even enter the race.

81 posted on 08/29/2011 11:48:10 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: DRey

You are absolutely right. Perry attended three Tea Parties on April 2009. One was in Austin, one in Arlington and one in Fort Worth. He was not late to the party in any way.


82 posted on 08/29/2011 11:48:42 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
If the situation in Feb. is similar to now, it looks like Iowa is an especially important state in this race. Romney is pretty much forfeiting Iowa so it should come down to Bachmann vs Perry

The Iowa caucii are a huge waste of time. They've never been an important factor in the nomination. If there's any demographic less symbolic of the general electoaqte than that of NH it is Iowa. In this one detail...and this alone...I agree with Romney. Iowa's a waste of resources.

83 posted on 08/29/2011 11:49:38 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: don-o
The fact of the matter is that 15 months (until the general) and five months (until the primaries) is not enough time for her to fix her negatives.

Just keep believing what state-controlled media tells you, Skippy.

Look at how much we're learning about Rick Perry without Palin in the race yet.

You think we'd be learning all these things if Palin were in the race to draw their fire?

That's what is really bothering you.

You would prefer that the RINO cowboy receive no scrutiny whatsoever, because you know he won't hold up very well.

84 posted on 08/29/2011 11:51:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: pgkdan

It probably is a waste of Romney’s resources but this year with Bachmann having won the SP and being expected to win the caucus, if Perry defeats her, it’s likely over for Bachmann.


85 posted on 08/29/2011 11:52:31 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: pgkdan
Concur..also this year the same can be said for NH..it can be viewed as a "favorite son" state for Mitt..if Perry does well there, ( and Mitt does not as well as projected) it could be over...the real key is SC, and then right after Florida....whoever wins SC, IMHO, will roll right through Florida...Nevada in between isn't that significant either..

This is over as of now, unless Palin gets in...I thinbk she either announces, or she might as well endorse Perry..

86 posted on 08/29/2011 11:53:29 AM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: GunRunner

Just think how dumb you’re going to feel when she does.


87 posted on 08/29/2011 11:53:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Look at how much we're learning about Rick Perry without Palin in the race yet.

Yes, and he continues to increase his lead. The media going full bore on Palin would only seem to help him if she ends up declaring.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves; she's not a candidate at this very moment.

88 posted on 08/29/2011 11:55:12 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I won’t feel dumb at all. I’ve made no prediction either way, as you have.


89 posted on 08/29/2011 11:55:49 AM PDT by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let your candidate of choice prove him/herself like Sarah has.

How in the hell has she proven herself? By quitting? And save the list of reasons why she quit. I understand them all and can sympathize with some but a LARGE majority of people see her as a quitter who went on to greener pastures and got rich. That will NOT sell to the electorate no matter how hard it's spun.

90 posted on 08/29/2011 11:56:02 AM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: pgkdan; Conservativegreatgrandma
.......I agree with Romney. Iowa's a waste of resources.

Romney attracts criticism that he is writing off S.C., Iowa (needs to “put in some effort”)

91 posted on 08/29/2011 11:58:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Just keep believing what state-controlled media tells you, Skippy.

Just keep living in Dreamland, Plurie And mind reading is not a strong suit for you.

92 posted on 08/29/2011 12:00:07 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I don’t think we have enough data to know that Perry can stick above Romney in the polls.

Well, we now have 4 national polls showing Perry with double digit leads over Romney:

PPP: Perry 27, Romney 17; Perry +10
Rasmussen: Perry 29, Romney 18; Perry +11
Gallup: Perry 25, Romney 14; Perry +11
CNN: Perry 27, Romney 14; Perry +13

It will be interesting to see how the next batch of polls look. The first three polls all were from the week after Perry announced. The CNN poll was from the week after that, and appears to show more movement toward Perry and away from all of the other major candidates (Romney, Bachmann, Palin and Paul).

93 posted on 08/29/2011 12:00:28 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I agree with that assesment.


94 posted on 08/29/2011 12:00:53 PM PDT by pgkdan (Time for a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: Renata Maree
I find it interesting that they keep ingnoring many polls that show Herman Cain in the top tier. What is their intention? They don’t know how to handle the support a true We The People candidate is getting, so they hide it.

I don't intend to denigrate Herman Cain, but what are you talking about? Herman has not been out of single digits in any national poll since mid-July.

95 posted on 08/29/2011 12:04:03 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Abraham Lincoln may have only served one term in the House of Representatives, but he had signed the Declaration of Independence (as Martin Luther King, Jr.'s daughter pointed out).

What name did he sign it under? And what did he do with the time machine he must have used to go back to 1776?

She was probably referring to the Emancipation Proclamation, which he did sign. After he was President. So, that wouldn't be an accomplishment for him to run on before he was President.

Abraham Lincoln's history previous to being President is comparable to Michelle Bachmann, but he was a historical anomaly in a lot of ways.

96 posted on 08/29/2011 12:07:23 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: ken5050

“This is over as of now, unless Palin gets in...I thinbk she either announces, or she might as well endorse Perry..”

That does seem like it may be true. Don’t think Palin could beat the Perry machine thou, and I don’t see why she would want to. At best she would end up drawing the fire from the left, making her situation worse for 2016 and 2020 by not allowing her stereo type to die, nor her ideas to be proven successfully.

Furthermore her own State has a vested interest in Perry’s ideas. Alaska is among the States most disastrously effected by Washington. Specifically in one of the same areas in which Texas is successful because Texas is comparatively free.(Due to the fact that Texas was its own republic and as such still owns pretty much all of its own land)

If Perry can get the Feds off Alaska’s back, Alaska will be primed for an unprecedented boom.(Due to freedom to utilize their natural resources) Palin’s power base being in Alaska she going to benefit from the vindication of her ideas that a Perry presidency could help bring.

Most of all I think Perry and Palin know each-other and have a repore, she probably knows all this and would be disinclined to challenge him.

Which leaves only the question of whether or not she might try to run distraction for him, which is a bit of self-sacrifice if she does by reopening old wounds, rather then allowing them to heal over in time for 2020.


97 posted on 08/29/2011 12:09:40 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Look at how much we're learning about Rick Perry without Palin in the race yet.

And yet, according to the latest polls, Perry's lead over the rest of the field is increasing, while the rest of the field (Palin included) is losing support.

98 posted on 08/29/2011 12:10:54 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Monorprise

I would just LOVE to see Palin as Sec of Energy in a Perry administration..


99 posted on 08/29/2011 12:12:13 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK three miles every day!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I didn't know Romney had written off SC. Where does he see his path to the nomination?

It's so easy to see this but then we never know the unexpected twists and turns. BTW, how did McCain get the nomination, anyway?

100 posted on 08/29/2011 12:14:22 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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