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To: SaraJohnson
I think the Muzzies hate us because we support Israel but no one wants to say it. I think we ought to say it and say we don’t care if the Muzzies like it or not. I think that hatred of the Jews within the Islamic religion has led to all of the Muzzie attacks on the US - not just 911

That's a popular misconception. The truth is Islamists and Muslim populations in general just don't play well with any other religion. While I agree with you that Israel is a flashpoint, it isn't the cause of most Islamic attacks against us.

Bin Laden's reasoning had nothing much to do with Israel and he was a johnnie-come-lately to the Palestinian cause. And Ron Paul's description of what happened was blatantly false. We had forces in Saudi Arabia at their invitation because Iraq invaded Kuwait (another Muslim country) and threatened to move into Bin Laden's precious Muslim holy land. And we most certainly did NOT kill hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's during our enforcement of the no fly zone.

Anyway, I lived in Asia - Thailand more specifically. Where Islamic borders meet up with Buddhist you get incredible violence. The southern provinces of Thailand meet up with Malaysia and is regularly a war zone. Muslims behead, bomb, and methodically slaughter Buddhist teachers, monks, etc. And your life is serious danger as a Christian there too. That has nothing to do with Israel, it has to do with Islam meeting other religions with pure violence and hatred.

As someone who has experienced it first hand, I can tell you that Ron Paul has absolutely no idea what the heck he is talking about. The man is entirely naive, spouts theory without understand the actual facts, has foreign policy positions that would put us in more danger than Obama's does, and associates himself with the most vile of people such as truthers who are still busy investigating loopy conspiracy theories.

23 posted on 09/13/2011 6:59:45 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

I agree they hate and attack everybody and if they ever managed to cleanse the world of Infidels, they would chop each other’s heads off until they were all dead, too.

But they hold a special hatred in the Koran for the Joooooos. Especially so in Israel’s part of the world. And that is where we got so “popular” with them.


27 posted on 09/13/2011 7:06:05 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Longbow1969
We had forces in Saudi Arabia at their invitation because Iraq invaded Kuwait (another Muslim country) and threatened to move into Bin Laden's precious Muslim holy land.

That is true. However, we were not invited by Bin Laden - we were invited by the House of Saud. I am absolutely sure that you do not think that Bin Laden personally approved of our presence in Saudi. We were not attacked by the tiny, tiny minority of the House of Saud - we were attacked by the countrmen over which they rule.

I do not believe that you think the royal family cheered the attacks. I probably have to clarify that since there is a lot of heat on this thread - not because they like us, but because it is in their best interest to maintain a cordial relationship with their customer.

I only point this out because there seems to be some push back at Paul's point that one of Al Qaeda's complaints was that we were occupying the holy land of Saudi Arabia. It's a question of what their motivation was, not whether it's valid or not. Surely, we want to understand what the enemy is thinking.
34 posted on 09/13/2011 7:18:16 PM PDT by andyk (Income != Wealth)
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