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Anyone other than me think that G*D is at work to save this country?
14 Sept 2011 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 09/14/2011 10:16:47 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

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To: US Navy Vet

We are still headed downhill and the people are still getting lazier. I don’t see any trends that say otherwise.


51 posted on 09/14/2011 11:01:10 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Eccl 10:2

That “I” before “E” thing gets me EVERY time!


52 posted on 09/14/2011 11:02:23 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Blueflag
,,,, I think you might be wrong ,,,, it comes my GRANDMOTHER 7:1894 (sarc ) anyway I'm not claiming it to be biblical in my post,,, however I will take a miracle if that's what it will take to oust the bamster .
53 posted on 09/14/2011 11:05:00 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: RnMomof7
People are judged individually by God, but a nation is judged separately. You could be killed in a national tragedy and be in Heaven in a blink of an eye, but the nation could have had the tragedy as a judgement against the whole. When Jesus was asked about a tragedy nearby as to what sin had caused it, He was careful to explain that sinners and non sinners were killed. The real question is are we ready for judgement. If you are saved,...of course we are. But the big question always comes,...what about our family, our children, my wife, my friends?

Are we praying, as His people? Are we asking for revival in the land? Do we pray for others or just those nearest?

If America is to avoid judgement, WE must pray and repent. The prayer of a non believer avails nothing. America was a gift from God to His people, just as Israel was given to the Jews. He has taken it back many times until the Jews repented and came back to Him. Israel has been called an "adulterous" nation. Cannot the same description fit the US as He gave this land to His people for His purpose for good, and we can't even pray in public, and He is not permitted anywhere in public affairs in His own land?

Many Christians think God will spare them some calamity if they are just believers, but billions of believers have been killed in the past and will be in the future. We could on a bigger scale lose our home to an enemy of God, and then what would your life be as a Christian. You can see a sample already in today's life in America. It will be more than ridicule and hate heaped upon God's people if we lose our home. The Bible says they will even kill us thinking they are doing "God's Will". There is almost as much homosexuality, abortion, adultery, and fornication in some churches as out of church today. I prefer to call myself a Christian rather than claim a denomination today in fear of what may be in tomorrow's headlines.

54 posted on 09/14/2011 11:05:04 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: US Navy Vet
BEHOLD HIS MIGHTY HAND!
55 posted on 09/14/2011 11:05:41 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: US Navy Vet

The God almighty that gave us George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ronald Reagan is still watching over the USA, and.....will do so forever!!! This is the same God almighty, that gave us Barack Hussein Obama to teach America the folly of departing from freedom, liberty, our sacred Constitution and Bill of Rights, The same God almighty that is teaching and demonstrating to American Black Christians, the folly and foolishness of voting for someone because of their ethnicity or skin color, rather then their capability content and character!!! Yes, America, there is a God almighty watching out over the USA, and.....watching out for his flock in Israel as well. as vividly displayed last evening in Brooklyn & Queens, NYC!!!


56 posted on 09/14/2011 11:07:03 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: SVTCobra03
We are in the End Times and America is not mentioned in Revelations. Make sure your preps are adequate because we don’t know how bad it will really get before the Rapture.

I agree.
57 posted on 09/14/2011 11:11:15 AM PDT by crosshairs (If Sharia Law becomes the law of the land, heads are gonna roll.)
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To: US Navy Vet

IMO, based on Revelation, the coming tribulation is a global event:

Rev 6:12And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.


58 posted on 09/14/2011 11:13:50 AM PDT by Errant
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To: SVTCobra03
"We are in the End Times and America is not mentioned in Revelations."

Sure it is. It's part of one of the 10 nations.

"Make sure your preps are adequate because we don’t know how bad it will really get before the Rapture."

It'll get so bad that you'll probably be dead before it actually happens.

59 posted on 09/14/2011 11:15:36 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: US Navy Vet

With all due respect, this is not good hermeneutics. This passage is addressed to Israel, the nation that was God’s. It contains no promise to any country, irrespective of their view or behavior.


60 posted on 09/14/2011 11:18:54 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Errant

61 posted on 09/14/2011 11:21:58 AM PDT by Errant
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To: US Navy Vet

That is my hope and belief. The Lord works in strange and mysterious ways. He’s watching!!! He’s working!!!


62 posted on 09/14/2011 11:22:19 AM PDT by cubreporter (From TEA to Shining TEA - Go Rush Limbaugh..a giant of all that is good.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I’m sure God hears us, but we have a lot more humbling and lot more turning away from evil ways to do.


63 posted on 09/14/2011 11:24:38 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: US Navy Vet

not as long as there is legalized abortion


64 posted on 09/14/2011 11:25:08 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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To: Dutchboy88
With all due respect, this is not good hermeneutics. This passage is addressed to Israel, the nation that was God’s. It contains no promise to any country, irrespective of their view or behavior.

You can bet if we turn our back on Israel, God's judgement will be harsh.

65 posted on 09/14/2011 11:26:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Little Ray

Rom 1:18-32 shows what the wrath of God on a nation looks like.

It’s obvious we’re still under that wrath, but perhaps we’re seeing some easing up as we repent and humble ourselves.


66 posted on 09/14/2011 11:27:35 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Lionheartusa1; US Navy Vet
Yes, I pray that He is hearing the fervent prayers of His people.

Nov. 2012 - SALVATION or DAMNATION - You decide

LOL...bumper sticker material :)

67 posted on 09/14/2011 11:29:01 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: US Navy Vet

On the other-hand... “WE” may have NOW a government that matches the people..

Meaning this corrupt government matches the corrupt people..
AND things are EXACTLY the way they are supposed to be..

There seems to no outrage for stealing from Paul to PAY Peter..
SSA is indeed a Ponzi scheme that “the people” want to continue..

Especially older people that know better or should know better... DON’T or WON’T..
Are YOU a socialist?.......... YES YOU!...


68 posted on 09/14/2011 11:31:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: MrB

I don’t know. I think God has been going easy on us.
I just hope we really and sincerely do humble ourselves, turn away from our evil ways, and call on His Name.


69 posted on 09/14/2011 11:32:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: DarthVader

Indeed! Farther along in the same chapter of Deuteronomy: “But if ye turn away, and forsake my statutes and my commandments, which I have set before you, and shall go and serve other gods, and worship them;
[20] Then will I pluck them up by the roots out of my land which I have given them; and this house, which I have sanctified for my name, will I cast out of my sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.
[21] And this house, which is high, shall be an astonishment to every one that passeth by it; so that he shall say, Why hath the LORD done thus unto this land, and unto this house?
[22] And it shall be answered, Because they forsook the LORD God of their fathers”


70 posted on 09/14/2011 11:32:18 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: Little Ray

Rom 1:18-32 could have been written about America today, to a ‘T’.

Read it and tell me what ISN’T happening in our society today.


71 posted on 09/14/2011 11:33:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
He has saved us as a nation since we were born. But this massive turning away has brought judgment upon us. If we let God take the blinders off,we can see it everyday.

What He said.There is no doubt that God has had a major hand in the history of our nation. Why do you think we as a people are some times called “ The New Israel”..If we as a nation would humble ourselves and turn to God as our Ancestors did, we would be an entirely different Nation,

72 posted on 09/14/2011 11:39:16 AM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("IF YOU DON'T HOLD IT, YOU DON'T OWN IT" ( Wise old Gold Bug))
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To: dfwgator
"You can bet if we turn our back on Israel, God's judgement will be harsh."

The Scriptures support your claim, but from a passage wherein such cautions are addressed to all other countries. Not the same thing as claiming if we "turn" to God He will heal our land. Just encouraging careful use of the text. There are no blanket promises to other countries.

73 posted on 09/14/2011 11:40:05 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: US Navy Vet

“It’s in Chronicles where evades me!”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

http://www.biblegateway.com/

The link is to a great online Bible site. You can search on keywords, text snippets, or chapter and verse, and it will find what you are looking for.

A truly great resource.


74 posted on 09/14/2011 11:43:02 AM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: GourmetDan

“Sure it is. It’s part of one of the 10 nations.”

No it is not. Learn how to read.

“It’ll get so bad that you’ll probably be dead before it actually happens.”

The Lord will not allow His people to go thru the Tribulation. I plan to be alive in the Rapture.


75 posted on 09/14/2011 12:09:48 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: chuckles

We are not allowed to claim promises specific to someone else as if they arte for us.

First, notice who is being addressed. God is speaking directly to Solomon, though Israel as a nation is clearly in view. In fact, God is giving Solomon a point-by-point response regarding his prayer for Israel in 2 Chronicles 6. Therefore, the promise of blessing and the warning regarding disobedience was given to Israel, not America or Christians living in America.

Second, what is “this place” that God has chosen in verse 12? Clearly it refers to the temple Solomon built in Jerusalem, not America.

Third, who is the group of “my people” that God is referring to in verse 14? It is certainly not Christians under the new covenant. That is an anachronistic reading which would be completely foreign to the original author and audience. Clearly this is referring to the Israelite nation. The nation of Israel was God’s chosen people in the Old Testament, not America or Christians living in America.

Fourth, what “land” is God promising to heal in verse 14? Again, clearly this is referring to the promised land of Israel, not America.

Fifth, what exactly is meant by “heal their land” in verse 14? Many assume this refers to some sort of spiritual healing, a spiritual revival of sorts. This is the way it is often applied today. But notice what verse 13 states, a verse that is frequently skipped over to get to verse 14:

http://apologeticjunkie.blogspot.com/2010/03/text-out-of-context-2-chronicles-714.html


76 posted on 09/14/2011 12:18:27 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

Brevity can be so profound. Good answer


77 posted on 09/14/2011 12:32:00 PM PDT by strongbow
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To: US Navy Vet

Yep, I agree. He is in control. Help us Lord. We need you to take our country back. Amen.


78 posted on 09/14/2011 12:45:23 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: All

There is a principle found in the verse which applies to all. My people = Jews; my people = Christian remnant


79 posted on 09/14/2011 12:50:42 PM PDT by betsyross60
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To: All

There is a principle found in the verse which applies to all. My people = Jews; my people = Christian remnant


80 posted on 09/14/2011 12:50:56 PM PDT by betsyross60
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To: US Navy Vet
I havent read any replies ....But whats with, G*D vs GOD
81 posted on 09/14/2011 12:59:05 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

It’s a Jewish thing, out of respect for the Jewish People and their customs(without which there would be NO Christianity) I write G*D as G*D. OK, GOT IT!


82 posted on 09/14/2011 1:02:54 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Russ

Proclamation Appointing a National Fast Day
Washington, D.C.
March 30, 1863

Excerpt:

(snip)

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do, by this my proclamation, designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th. day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting and prayer. And I do hereby request all the People to abstain, on that day, from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite, at their several places of public worship and their respective homes, in keeping the day holy to the Lord, and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion. All this being done, in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the Divine teachings, that the united cry of the Nation will be heard on high, and answered with blessings, no less than the pardon of our national sins, and the restoration of our now divided and suffering Country, to its former happy condition of unity and peace.

Done at the city of Washington the 30th day of March, in the year of our Lord
1863.

Signed by Abraham Lincoln, President of the U.S.A

http://www.pb.org/secdocs/lincoln1.html


83 posted on 09/14/2011 2:11:18 PM PDT by donna (This is what happens when America is no longer a Christian nation.)
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To: betsyross60

Really show me where we can find that??


84 posted on 09/14/2011 3:02:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: US Navy Vet

Yes, considering who this country actually is.


85 posted on 09/14/2011 3:04:01 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: US Navy Vet

2Ch 7:14 if my people, who are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

A companion to that verse is:

1Pe 2:1 Putting away therefore all wickedness, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
1Pe 2:2 as newborn babes, long for the spiritual milk which is without guile, that ye may grow thereby unto salvation;


86 posted on 09/14/2011 5:45:15 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: SVTCobra03
"No it is not. Learn how to read."

Yes it is. Learn how to think.

"The Lord will not allow His people to go thru the Tribulation. I plan to be alive in the Rapture."

Yeah right, His people are better than He is and won't have to suffer. You can plan all you want, you'll be long gone before the Tribulation ever starts.

87 posted on 09/14/2011 5:55:41 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I think so.

God tends to bring things back to His natural plan. Progressives have tried to take us away from His plan and, naturally, it doesn’t work.

We are looking forward to a great pruning.


88 posted on 09/14/2011 7:56:11 PM PDT by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: US Navy Vet

This passage is about Israel, not the US. It does not apply to us.


89 posted on 09/14/2011 8:16:40 PM PDT by LiteKeeper ("Who is John Galt?")
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To: RnMomof7
There is so much wrong with your post, I don't have time to address all of it.

Let's just say, I am God's people because I have been "adopted" in or grafted into the Root. The Jews are my family now.

Second, the Temple today is my body and God lives in me. He has sanctified this house and will hear the prayers made in "this house".

The Old Testament is the physical reality of history that told the story of things to come. The New Testament changed NOTHING, except the fulfillment of the promises made in the OT. Remember Jesus said He didn't come to change the Law, but to fulfill it. The Grace of Jesus was that He agreed to pay our sin price, but the price still had to be paid. If Psalms speaks of Christ on the cross through David, then Genesis speaks of things to come that are today, reality. In the NT, Sodom and Gomorrah are mentioned and the "time of Noah, and many other references are made to the OT.

Verse 19-22 speaks of the house(my body or temple), and the land given to them.

The Bible speaks of God's character. What was true then is true today because He is unchanging. America is just a chunk of land, but it was given by God to us. The Bible doesn't have to call it by name. If you lived in Mexico and they had revival, would they not be blessed? As we turn from God, we all suffer. That is an ageless principle.

90 posted on 09/14/2011 11:18:35 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: US Navy Vet

Are we still killing babies?


91 posted on 09/16/2011 4:56:58 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (Heavy the head that wears the tiara.)
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