Evidently Thomas Jefferson, the temporal Architect of the 1st Amendment, believed otherwise:
Posted on 09/20/2011 9:08:44 PM PDT by ReformationFan
Last week, David Brooks of The New York Times wrote a column on an academic study concerning the nearly complete lack of a moral vocabulary among most American young people. Below are some excerpts from Brooks' summary of the study of Americans aged 18 to 23. (It was led by "the eminent Notre Dame sociologist Christian Smith.")
"Smith and company asked about the young people's moral lives, and the results are depressing …
"When asked to describe a moral dilemma they had faced, two-thirds of the young people either couldn't answer the question or described problems that are not moral at all …
"Moral thinking didn't enter the picture, even when considering things like drunken driving, cheating in school or cheating on a partner …
"The default position, which most of them came back to again and again, is that moral choices are just a matter of individual taste …
"As one put it, 'I mean, I guess what makes something right is how I feel about it. But different people feel different ways, so I couldn't speak on behalf of anyone else as to what's right and wrong …
"Morality was once revealed, inherited and shared, but now it's thought of as something that emerges in the privacy of your own heart."
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1)Private education is the only answer compatible with First Amendment human rights and freedom of consciences.
2) All education is religious indoctrination. A religiously neutral education is impossible.
3) Parents, and the teachers ( tutors) they selected, would mutually agree upon the religious worldview taught. They **MUST** choose between either a godless or God-centered religious worldview and neither of these two religious worldview is religiously neutral in content or consequences.
4) As for wards of the state: It would be a very very very rare child that has absolutely no family. Even if it is the state who is paying for the care of the child, the nearest responsible adult in that child family would choose the religious setting for that child. ( Even if it were a 4th cousin five times removed.) The Mormon genealogy records could help locate these people. There is now DNA genealogy tracing, as well.
Ok! That's it. I am done chasing roaches around the kitchen table.
If you keep your house clean, you don't need to.
How is an opinion determined to be wrong?
Perhaps, since He is capable of anything, God created each of us with our own individual truths, in order to acoomplish His plan?
>>How is an opinion determined to be wrong?
Nature takes its course.
Got reproductive fitness? The perverted Enuchs running the vestigial remains of the Roman state church sure don’t.
If our Founding Fathers could see the monstrosity we call government “education”, they would recognize immediately the conflict with the First Amendment and freedom of conscience.
Jefferson and our other Founding Fathers likely had in mind the education of himself and that of the other Founding Fathers:
**homeschool
** tutoring
** one room schools organized by the parents
** home based mini-schools
** home based academies to prepare the brightest ( with the means) for entrance into college as young teens.
** apprenticeships
** self teaching
Government schools were a wrong idea, dispensing godless and fascist opinon on captive children, and imposing it upon other by means of armed police threat.
Yep! I'd say we should be protected from that.
Wow! What bigotry!
“Jefferson and our other Founding Fathers likely had in mind”
Baloney.
The man’s words are written in stone precisely so religionist snake-oil salesmen intent on pirating the collective jackwagon can’t “likely” rewrite them:
“ESTABLISH THE LAW FOR EDUCATING THE COMMON PEOPLE. THIS IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE TO EFFECT AND ON A GENERAL PLAN”
We won’t get fooled again.
—The Who?
>>Wow! What bigotry!
Wow! Two male penguins can’t lay eggs and produce reproductively viable offspring. Not in the San-fransicko zoo — and not in ancient Egypt & Babylon from whence the slave breeding, Sun-worthiping, Eunuch snake-oil sellers came.
That’s Natural / historical Reality.
Deal with it.
Got Morals and Dogma?
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&cp=16&gs_id=1&xhr=t&q=Morals+and+Dogma
"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
...and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them."
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.html
Here comes the Sun, doo doo doo doo.
The above certain sounds like government schooling!
Government schools have assumed dominion over the faith of others. Government schools have established the religion of atheistic secular humanism. Those defending the government schools believe themselves to be infallible in their opinion that government schools have the right to impose this religion upon the minds of captive children and that citizens should be under police threat to pay for it.
The only solution is to abolish the godless and socialist-funded government schools and work toward complete privatization.
Not good if you had your own kids to fight for you.
[Government schools have assumed dominion over the faith of others.]
A strategy they adopted from religionist collectivist sheeple fleecers who traditionally perch themselves upon the steps of the theocratic temple.
Meet the New Boss, same as the Old Ba'al
--The Who?
But a strategy that's only successful when parents allow that to be the case.
Meanwhile:
Me: What do we see the truth with?
1st Grader: Our own eyes.
Me: Who gave you your free mind?
1st Grader: God did.
Me: Who did God have write the Declaration of Independence?
1st Grader: Thomas Jefferson.
Me: Have a nice day at school. I love you.
1st Grader: Bye daddy, I love you too.
Etc.
Not good,only if you had your own kids to fight for you.
>>It’s the business of the state
“TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men”
Just because the State-canoe got hijacked by pirates into the heart of darkness doesn’t mean the original design wasn’t enlightened or render it obsolete.
The process of Reforming American government back into the constraints of its lawful specified purpose must include Reforming the schools as well.
That can not be accomplished by abandoning them to the opposition.
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When people are taught from childhood both by words and the actions of adults around them, and other children, that there is no God, no absolute truth, no immutable morality, then they grow up feral. Everyone must worship someone, it is a need of the soul. Not worshiping God, people will worship whatever pops up in their own minds and desires, and be a cotton wisp in the wind of cultural influences.
If not turned around, the worst anarchy ensues, which will be followed by tyranny.
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